atmuh Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 I played ITG used speed mods and the bar today what is the world coming to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drack Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 What's wrong with speed mods? It's the same set of steps. How you see the arrows should be a preference. What's wrong with customizing how they are displayed? If a song has a BPM such that it's hard to distinguish note lengths, is that really supposed to be part of the challenge? I think the challenge should be around timing and hitting the arrows, not in seeing WHAT to hit. If speed mods make a song easier, you better believe I'm gonna use em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainocd Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 If a song has a BPM such that it's hard to distinguish note lengths, is that really supposed to be part of the challenge? I think the challenge should be around timing and hitting the arrows, not in seeing WHAT to hit. It's both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rod Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 If a song has a BPM such that it's hard to distinguish note lengths, is that really supposed to be part of the challenge? Absolutely. Its the only reason why "Bag" from DDR Extreme was given a rank of 10-footer. Same thing with "Fascination Eternal Love" from Supernova; the steps arent all that hard, but the tempo changes (especially on 1.5 reverse) make the song damn near unbearable : ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkspast Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 you dont have jap extremeits the best home ever QFT....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 btw, Here's Cookin' By The Book(not me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLiterate Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 This little guy is on his way to being the dancing queen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmhedgehog Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 you dont have jap extremeits the best home ever QQ is the theme of the jap version similar to the arcade version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 QQ is the theme of the jap version similar to the arcade version? It's pretty much the arcade version, AT HOME plus Max.(period) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkspast Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 It's pretty much the arcade version, AT HOMEplus Max.(period) Have you seen anyone in real life beat max.(period) the last ten or so seconds are amazing... 666 BPM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 I can read the MAXes on 2x, so if Max.(period) is ever on an arcade mix, it shouldn't be too hard to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmhedgehog Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 It's pretty much the arcade version, AT HOMEplus Max.(period) ok ive already have the theme for SM. so i'll have to located the song list then ill add the songs then bing bang boom ive got DDR extreme without buying any imports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 I can read the MAXes on 2x, so if Max.(period) is ever on an arcade mix, it shouldn't be too hard to read. Hmm Max 300 = 300 BPM 300 BPM x2 (or 2x)= 600 BPM 666BPM- 600BPM= 66 BPM!! You're still 66 BPM short! YOU LOSE! Actually, the other Maxes are faster than 300 at some parts, so I'm sure you'll be fine. You have to have an excellent reaction speed to comprehend those songs on 2x (or just have them memorized, haha.) I have enough trouble reading TLOMax on 1x. And by the way, I'm usinig a keyboard when I do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenPi Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 umm... Max.(Period) only goes to 600 at the end. However in The Legend Of Max, the middle freeze goes to 666 when he sais "FEAR!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Hmm Max 300 = 300 BPM 300 BPM x2 (or 2x)= 600 BPM 666BPM- 600BPM= 66 BPM!! You're still 66 BPM short! YOU LOSE! Actually, the other Maxes are faster than 300 at some parts, so I'm sure you'll be fine. You have to have an excellent reaction speed to comprehend those songs on 2x (or just have them memorized, haha.) I have enough trouble reading TLOMax on 1x. And by the way, I'm usinig a keyboard when I do this. LoM is 333BPM I believe, so 2x is 666 . I did this a long time ago, I can probably do better now because I only tried this once since we got Supernova. This was on 2x Misses are from the wonderful pads provided by Betson(piece of jumk). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkspast Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 no... See when you go 2x you are doubling the space between the arrows making it easier to see. and in my case giving me more time to react. I do it for most songs as well, unless I am freestyling. Have you seen Max.(period)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 no... See when you go 2x you are doubling the space between the arrows making it easier to see. and in my case giving me more time to react. I do it for most songs as well, unless I am freestyling. Have you seen Max.(period)? Yes, I have seen Max.(period). Reading the end on 1x(600bpm) isn't that hard for me. Have you ever played the Oni Course named Trick? The last song is Max300 on .25 speed. So basically you're reading it at what a song at 75BPM on 1x looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Yes, I have seen Max.(period). Reading the end on 1x(600bpm) isn't that hard for me.Have you ever played the Oni Course named Trick? The last song is Max300 on .25 speed. So basically you're reading it at what a song at 75BPM on 1x looks like. I freaking love that course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 If you guys want a fun stepmania file, try Holy Orders. http://www.groovestats.com/index.php?page=customsongs&action=view&id=25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainocd Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 And that's why the "using the bar" argument shouldn't even exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigfoot Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 And that's why the "using the bar" argument shouldn't even exist. Kobayan is a freak though, haha. Notice the way he steps? I heard he walks around like that too. There's also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqpoCzgtMhY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Kobayan is a freak though, haha. Notice the way he steps? I heard he walks around like that too.There's also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqpoCzgtMhY While I do respect this guy's skills and realize he's a much better player than I will probably ever be, I don't like his style very much. Looks TOO goofy. That just looks more than a little uncomfortable. *secretly snatches his play-style* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted April 23, 2007 Author Share Posted April 23, 2007 wow someone looks goofier than me!!!! but I'm still terrible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainocd Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Goofy? That looks graceful and elegant to me. It's to the point that it almost seems like the song was played in slow motion and then the video was sped up after. Kobayan is a freak though, haha. Notice the way he steps? I heard he walks around like that too. That sounds like a stupid rumor people make up about popular players. Freak? Come on. :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I find it difficult for anyone to look elegant when playing high bpm songs on ddr. It just limits your time to react and make more elegant step patterns. After a while it just looks like the same three patterns over and over again. Standing on your tip-toes just makes things seem that much more forced. I mean, the only person I can think of who dances like that is Michael Jackson when he moon walks, but he doesn't do that for an entire performance. His heels touch the ground eventually. That's why I like free-styling and just winging songs over perfect-attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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