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CMC - Conceptual Music Competition 12: The Sinner's Choice


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CMC: Conceptual Music Competition


This competition is based on the rules of the classic TOMC (Thematic Original Music Competition).

The CMC (Conceptual Music Competition) is designed so that each participant enters a piece of music based on a set theme. The participants take the theme and interpret it as they will to come up with something that fits. Any style can work, as long as it portrays a sense of what the theme is.

Feel free to be imaginative!

Each successive theme will be chosen by the winner of the previous competition. For example, say the theme of the last competition, CMC 19, was "The Volcano" and the winner, Fred, submitted a piece that knocked the socks off of everyone, so he won. Fred then gets to decide the theme for CMC 20.

This competition is open to registered members of the forums of

OverClocked ReMix, VGMix, Ormgas, VGMusic, SheezyArt, Gaming World, and Young Composers.


CMC 12: The Sinner's Choice

"The fiery pits of Apollyon (hell) burn unyieldingly before the sinner, while the pearly gates of Elysium (heaven) shine brightly in all their glory. It is the everlasting battle of death: flames of everlasting and divine wrath against paradise; a dark void against a placid abyss; an unending suffering against infinite tranquility. Now is the time. He has the choice: Will he atone his sins or is it still greed that he craves?" -James Householder IV


There are 2 entries for this round...

Blue.Nocturne - "Unforgiving Sin"

  • "Our hero has done the greatest sin of all, he has slain a human life with his own hands. Unable to forgive himself, he has gone into a state of depression. He thinks much about what he has done, but he ultimately is unable to forgive himself. Abandoning all hope of salvation, he truely believes that no action can repent for his sin."

HoboKa - "A Most Frightful Dilemma"
  • "Okay, so I interpreted CMC 12's theme as a dark, choir-ish/electronica feel, which picks up halfway when the sinner decides that he needs to make a change and fight for his redemption. I hope you guys enjoy it."

Voting Rules!:

  • Voters will be allowed to pick a first place (3 points) and any number of honorary mentions (1 point). Only one set of votes from any one voter will be accepted and a person cannot vote for any one piece more than once. Corrections to votes, from the original voter only, will be accepted, but corrections will void the previous votes. Basically, a voter can vote and correct the vote, but only the final form of that vote will be counted. Send all votes to
Abadoss by PM. Please include any and all constructive critiques (not to be confused with bashing) about them with your votes as well, so that there's always a sense of growth in the artform. If you wish to remain anonymous, just state so in your PM. Thanks.

  • The voting period will last from the moment the entries are posted in the thread to the Saturday of that week. The voting period for this round ends October 13, so be sure to spend some time really listening to the pieces.

  • Any participant in the competition can vote, but not for their own pieces. However, in an effort to encourage voting among participants, any participant who votes will have 2 points added to their voting score.

Official Rules!:

  1. Each piece must be originally composed for this competition. Arrangements and remixes will not be accepted. (Pieces composed by the participant prior to the competition will not be accepted.)
  2. Each piece must be 2:00 or longer and match the competition theme.
  3. Only one entry per person. Collaborations will be allowed, but each collaborator may not submit any other pieces. (This also means that a person cannot collaborate on two or more different pieces at the same time.)
  4. A link to the entry piece must be PMed to Abadoss prior to the deadline set for each competition. DO NOT POST THE LINK IN THE THREAD! However, feel free to post in the WIP:Other forum.
  5. Important: Each file must be labelled accordingly: Composer_Name_-_Composition_Title_CMC#.mp3
    (For example, if Danielle Smith submits a piece called "Drum Run at Tom's Tomb" to CMC 16, then her filename would be: Danielle_Smith_-_Drum_Run_at_Toms_Tomb_CMC16.mp3)
  6. MP3 file format is required. Know that even OGG will need to be converted into MP3. (If someone is unable to do so themselves, Abadoss would be willing and able to do it for them.)
  7. Entries should be accompanied by a description and/or story to help listeners understand what the piece is about. (Not required, though.)
  8. All entries must be submitted by Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 11:59 PM - PST, GMT-8.

You can find the competition threads for each forum listed below:

Good luck and have fun! :D

Previous CMCs: http://www.warnerpacific.edu/personal/kkeyn/CMC.htm

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I've yet to receive an entry, so I hope you're all working on them.

lol... uhhh... heheh.

Seriously, for freaken sake I do not like the theme, mainly because I don't have a good choir sound to describe heaven and hell... well, it's more that I don't like the theme. I hope someone is going to submit something. I'll definitely support by voting.

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Honestly, I don't like the theme either, or at least the way it's described.

Yeah, main problem for me is that the description doesn't describe an actual scene of what is going happening, like in a movie. It more describes some kind of metaphor. The best music I could come up with in my head is that kind of hollywood mysterious thinking music where the character is coming to a big realization and then he's going to execute operation 1B or something, you know?

I dunno. EVEN if I composed the music to describe something like that, it would still be hard to come up in my head how it relates to making a choice between heaven and hell. Really, the theme's problem IMO is that it's not describing an actual scene or event.

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If that's the case, someone's interpretation may sound like porno music from a donkey show during one section and then cut to a dainty piano tune with the sounds of a janitor mopping up vomit from an elementary school hallway. I mean, you've got the essence of good and evil with both sides of that, right?

Anyway I didn't exactly help matters much there, but I will stand by how I feel about the theme not really giving anyone a proper idea to work off of. I hope I'm proved wrong though and a few brave souls take on the challenge.

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I'm going to have to bash the theme a little more. As far as I know, the only visual cue we have to go on is that there's a guy who has the gates of heaven and hell on each side of him and he must go to one of them.

The problem I see with this is that hell is bad. No one *wants* to go to hell, so what kind of choice is that? The description of the theme would need something in there to tell us why the sinner might choose hell over heaven.

It says something about attoning sins or craving greed. Now, is it greedy to go to heaven or is it greedy to go to hell? Do you attone yoru sins in heaven or do you attone sins in hell? But HOLD ON! WAIT A MINUTE HERE! If atoning sins means going to hell, then how can you instead choose to go to heaven if you're still greedy? If it's greedy to go to hell, then how do you attone sins in heaven? That's why this theme makes no sense to me.

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I think the problem with the theme is that we are actually presented with 3 possible themes to choose from, because the description is pretty vague. Either heaven or hell or the anxiety of having to choose. Given that, if each person interprets the theme differently by that large of a margin, then how are we really supposed to compare and contrast how effectively each person expresses what is supposed to be one central idea? I see where it was going, but I think it missed the mark or wasn't a wholly realized idea before it was submitted.

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To clarify the situation - while trying to limit my own interpretation - the guy/girl/person is already headed for the crapper, but has a chance to make up and fly straight, but the process of doing so means he/she/it/they has (have) to do something he/she/it/they doesn't (don't) really want to do. So, basically it goes like this; aimed for hell, could go to heaven, but it would come at a price. Does that help?

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