Posted 2000-02-09, evaluated by djpretzel
ECCO the dolphin, for the Sega Genesis, was a very strange game with very strange music . . . there was really no single melody, just kind of ambient new age / jazz stuff that changed and played constantly . . . it fit the game quite nicely, actually. I decided to do my own "DJ Shadow" style DUB remix - if you have a problem with jazz, or think songs should have a distinct melody, stay far, far away, but otherwise . . come a bit closer, and download the ECCO dorsal dub.
on 2015-04-05 08:52:42
Oh man why did you have to point out the 'edges of the drum loop' thing now I can't unhear it. And also gotta agree with the other things mentioned like the dry weirdly panned piano and the lack of bass (!!) being a problem. But hey.
I like when djpretzel tries to emulate styles, say whatever else you want but I did get those vibes of Entroducing so that was nice. So were the some of the jazzy piano bits. Not something I'd listen to on the regular but a nice effort. I feel like with more finesse a song like this would be very very successful today!
on 2013-07-13 19:32:37
This is music that could easily fit into an Ecco stage. A bit more energetic than most Ecco tracks, but a boss battle or chase, surely.
on 2011-12-03 03:40:20
I can hear the edges of the looping drums! Almost as if the tempo of the song is just the slightest bit different to allow the smallest pause between repetition. I do think the sounds are pretty dry here and could use some reverb. Especially the right-panned ePiano seems very dry as well as being very right-panned. There's also some sour notes here and there in some of the chords. I definitely think some reverb would help complete the atmosphere that is going on -- maybe brighten the string pad a bit (or chop some low-mids) as well as adding reverb. Widening the string pad just a touch would have been great -- not to the extreme that the ePiano is, just a little bit.. maybe L35. I think if the ePiano and String pad had a similar panning, the sound would be more effective. The bass instrument could have come up as well, possibly as much as 4db.
on 2011-12-02 00:02:28
Sexy funky electric piano. That about sums up the review - everything else is a nitpick, in comparison. No, really, the electric jazz piano pretty much dominates the entire track, and it's worth listening to based on that alone.
The background harmonies are pretty neat, as well. Unfortunately, there's no real satisfying bass to complete then ensemble, in my opinion. It makes the track sound more empty than it is.
The drums are a little eclectic (and not in a good way). They're a regular set with basic bass snare on the one hand, and crazy compressed SFX on the other. They don't mesh well when they're together.
The arrangement is a bit meandering, though that might come with the source not really having as much direction. I'm not familiar with the source, and DjP mentions that it's more of an ambient track, anyway, so I'm going to take his word for it.
Fun track, even if it does just wander around a bit. Certainly seven dolphins out of ten.
on 2011-10-18 09:08:07
That sonar was so good! Perfect backing for this track, and for such a simple idea, that sonar was probably the cherry on top of this mix. I gotta say, I'm becoming more of a fan of jazz with every ReMix I listen to that has some form of it, and I kinda dig the ambient jazz that lets it switch up the melodies without crashing. It feels like it's meant to bring up images of the sea, and considering the game and source, that's a plus.
on 2010-11-18 04:10:24
I love the sonar sound. I always think of Hydrophone Breakdown from VotL when I hear this one. Ya, it does feel a bit hollow, like there is a missing track, but the rhythm and improv are great as always.
on 2010-07-01 20:54:36
Obviously the sonar is great, but the rest of the instrumentation feels a bit dry. Still some cool keyboards going on (although they seem a bit frantic sometimes for the mood I think you're going for), and the drums are interesting throughout. Feels like you could squeeze another minute or two out of it, but perhaps the same could be said of all songs of this genre with no real melody. Overall, I dig it. Another decent early mix.
on 2009-04-12 07:26:22
This brings back memories. l like how it fits with the atmosphere of the ocean and how it really is great to listen to when you want to relax.
on 2009-04-11 07:48:00
Sounds like a ReMix of Opening Theme, from what I can tell. The persistently changing melody is a bold choice and a commendable strength of Dorsal Dub.
As others noted, the sonar is a slick touch, but I think it loses some of its mysterious vibe while other synths are in play. On the other hand, if it played three more pings at the end, the mix would wrap up on a more satisfying note.
I like the whistles (1:38 - 1:44); it's like they're calling out to the abyss. Before that, the brief minimalist lapse (1:28 - 1:31) could be a bit longer to distance itself from - and better emphasize - the rather offbeat percussion. Speaking of which, the popping drums, muted rubber band pluckings (that's what they sound like), and other percussive tidbits are a treat.
on 2009-02-28 18:08:13
Vintage pretzel is like cold pizza or soggy cereal. Some people love it and some people just can't get past the way it is supposed to be eaten. Or in this case, listened to.
Would this have sounded better if djpretzel concieved this mix today? Of course. But does it sound great regardless? To me, it's hot.
I relay all the praise for the sonar sound effect; this gives the mix a gimmick, which is helpful in instantly remembering the song after it gets lost in the vast shuffle. Drums get a little spastic in relation to the keyboard melody, which is also get quite manic. At times, it sounds as though one thing is happening completely detached from the other, which throws me a little. However, then you have moments like at 1:17 - 1:45, which is just ubercool and very slick.
Being a track from the first days of OCR, this mix proves that the fun was always there, but also the quality has always been there too. This mix still sounds fresh, interesting and ear-pleasing even after 9 YEARS! And that's a tough thing to do, I imagine. Mind boggling.
on 2008-12-15 20:54:43
The echolocation pings for the intro and ending really set the tone/place for this mix; they immediately tell the listener that this is in the solitary dark depths of the ocean.
I like the lazy, laid back feel to it. Very good music to listen to while studying/reading.
It's a cool mix and worth listening to.
on 2008-12-09 18:02:55
Pretty good ambient jazz track. Admittedly there's not a lot going on, and it starts to sound a bit meandering. But, it still works well as background.
I'm sort of surprised the sonar ping works so well despite being repeated for almost the entire track. The rest of the melody kind of dances around that and the percussion, so it has a pretty cohesive feel to it. All in all, it's a fun track, even if it does feel a little aimless. KF
on 2008-12-07 17:28:00
Hmm.... this mix is a really pretty piece of keyboard work with drums that feel like they're trying to accent the atmosphere. There's parts in it where I feel like the drums throw me off (mostly at the intro), and then there's parts where they're sucking me back into the mix (from 1:15 - 2:00). After that I feel somewhat meh about the whole piece. It's alright, but I definitely don't feel like it's any of djpretzel's best work.
on 2008-12-04 23:13:57
This is really cool. Starts with a breathing sonar ping, which is pretty cool even on its own. Cool, soft, a little uneven tho for something from 2000 it's still great. It's easy to find stuff to appreciate in this, tho there are some detracting production things. Still, it's certainly worth a listen or two.
on 2007-12-06 07:06:42
I can't believe I didn't review this before. I listen to it a lot, both because I'm a fan of Ecco and because it's a great remix.
The EP is both played well and has a sweet sound. As OA pointed out it's a little on the dry side, but I tend to like that.
The only thing bothering me is that this is NOT dub Otherwise, give it a listen, it will not dissapoint.
Sources Arranged (1 Song)
- Primary Game:
Ecco the Dolphin (Sega, 1993, GEN)
Music by András Magyari, Brian Coburn, Spencer Nilsen
- Ambient, Jazz
- Acoustic, Electric Piano, Synth
- Time > 4/4 Time Signature
Time > Tempo: Moderate
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- Size: 2,877,099 bytes
- MD5 Checksum: 3aa18cd5e2c0034c22862f5f5aafe6b2
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