Posted 2002-02-21, evaluated by djpretzel
DarkCecil13 has waited a long time for this. Those of you who've been following the site awhile will remember that, a long time ago, DC13 submitted a ReMix that wasn't his (it was actually off a professionally arranged album). Many, many people yelled at him (rightfully so) and the mix was removed from the site. Now, I would expect someone who'd done this to give up, figure that there was no way of apologizing or making up for it, and move on, but he actually stuck around, and after apologizing a few (hundred) times, sat down and started to make his own mixes. Now, he's not Mozart, but this is the first of his pieces I've listened to that show's he come a long way and has some decent arranging skills. This FF arrangement has several upsides, and a couple downsides, but on the average is a ride worth taking. The beginning may be the strongest point - the intro features nice, peaceful analog synth pads, which are abruptly interrupted by the full arrangement, with an acoustic kit, strings, a running orchestral snare and cymbal crashes, and an electric bass. The sound quality is decent, sometimes heavy on the reverb. The strings are conspicuously delayed from left to right for the first minute, and the transitions at 3'00" is questionable (the other transitions are rather good though). The surprise 'second ending' is a little odd, but a neat touch. For me, the first minute worked the best, as the running snare line was perfect as was the intro. The other sections, where it tries to rock a little harder, displayed the above characteristics more vividly. BUT, little details like the great runs - with nice drum fills - at 1'43", show some solid arrangement skills. I'd say with slightly better sounds, better mixing, and just a few changes here and there, this mix would be deadly, and would advise DC13 to focus in those areas. But, this mix shows great progress on his part, is worthy, and represents hard work, and a lot of patience. DC13 writes: "After two allegedly completed version, I finally finished it up (Thanks to many -- Matt Pollard, Ken-san, ViolentRage, among others). Fixed strings, and some timing issues since last version. ReMixed From Final Fantasy:1) Badguy Castle Theme: 0:00 --> 1:25, 2) Battle Theme: 1:25 --> 2:58, 3) Fanfare Theme: 2:58 --> 3:25, 4) Inn Theme: 3:25 --> 3:33"
on 2011-12-06 02:59:18
DarkCecil's tracks kinda tore me a bit when I first came across them years ago; when he has ideas, he brings them out well, though there were a few tracks where he kind of had his more awkward moments IMO.
Sadly, this is one of those tracks for me; it's understandable for the choice of samples to show their age, but I thought the trumpet part at the beginning was cool either way. But going past that, the track itself seems to be envisioned as nothing more than a medley, made somehow unclear by a ridiculous amount of release/reverb covering instruments across the entire track. To me it doesn't quite feel like the norm for even 2002, which ends up putting the track at a weak standing point.
So I'm going to have to say though that due to it really showing its age on both the arrangement and production sides, this one didn't really do it for me. I'm sorry man :\
on 2009-09-21 02:43:44
Ha, a DC13 mix!
Samples aside, once the song launches into the main thrust after the slow intro, I feel the song exhibits major medleyitis. It just repeats the same section of the song, and then suddenly transitions to another song. It reminds me a lot of those midis from the late 1990s where people would just do these mega medleys of various songs and not do a great job at transitioning or exploring much of the source material.
on 2009-01-10 15:29:13
very nice medley, takes you on a little journey through the enemy's stronghold. Not to crazy about some of the synths used in the first part, but I still liked it a lot.
on 2008-12-07 06:10:33
A good rendering of a very good theme. I have to say that I like the begining better than the battle theme. Towards the end of the mix, before the fanfare, I find that the edge and definition of the instruments become unclear, which complements the mix quite well. One of my favorite FFI remixes, great job.
on 2008-08-24 20:25:25
While the sound quality is lacking, the arrangment itself is pretty decent. I found the beginning to be my favorite part, starting soft and nice and jumping into the piece. The added inn ending is a bit too strange for me. Having a complete fade-out, then tack that on; it's a bit strange. Overall, nice work.
on 2007-12-09 19:18:49
I must admit that I'm a little biased. DC13 is the younger brother of one of my good friends from high school, and he is the person that introduced me to OCR many years ago. He also holds the absolute best LAN parties around...but I digress.
In any case, this is the only medley on the site (that I can think of -- challenge me please) that I really enjoy. Like Gray Lightning said above years ago, this has aged well. The low production values don't bug me nearly as much as they did with "Saga Prelude" for some reason. The drums are better than most because DC13 actually plays them, btw. I don't know if he recorded himself for this mix or not (it's been too long), but the point is that he knows how to make it work as a result of his playing.
The transition from dungeon scene to battle scene sounds spot on -- others aren't quite as good which is too bad (though the transition from battle scene to victory is better than the original's, which had none at all). I agree with others who say that the last moments could be a little stronger. I do like their inclusion however...it's hard to say how I'd prefer it handled. A good mix overall that I'm still listening to (and should have written a review for the instant I joined...hopefully none of DC13's other stuff is on my Christmas review list).
on 2007-04-24 02:49:19
A must get FF remix
on 2007-04-23 16:26:24
some of the transitions seem a bit akward, and a bit of the synth is a bit dated, but overall it's a fun jaunt through a dungeonfightvictory sequence and really echoes the game itself in how things would progress. The drum fills are especially nice.
on 2006-02-02 15:42:28
Man i like this...sorry for posting like this one after another...but the interenet didnt work as well as i had hoped so i had to get firefox..but the forum windows wouldnt open......o well great song!!!8.9999/10
on 2003-04-20 01:44:06
This has aged well. Two things make this piece for me. The very cool throwback to the past synth strings that start the mix. This has character. The second is in the temple of fiends section with the interplay between the bells and strings. For me, the other three themes in this mix cap off the highlighted portion. The entire mix is just flows nicely from theme to theme. Solid work.
on 2002-06-09 12:45:42
Actually, this mix sprang into my imagination when I accidently deleted my Marsh Cave project I was working on. One additional interesting bit of information - The fanfare portion is "backwards" purely by accident, haha.
Thanks for listening.
on 2002-05-26 19:08:31
Final Fantasy 'Stronghold of Chaos'
Though this one suffers from very questionable sample quality, and even more questionable transitions, DarkCecil13 shows off some very good arranging skills. There's some real power here, though some better samples would make it even stronger. I could have done without the fade out ending and the last little bit, though - that to me is the weakest part of the mix, and it's never good when the ending is the weakest part. Still, this song is well worth a download.
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- Primary Game:
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Music by Nobuo Uematsu
- "Battle Scene"
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