When it comes down to it, there are basically two things the judges panel is looking at for each ReMix: the arrangement (how the original has been augmented, mutated, modified, interpreted) and the overall sound quality of the resultant piece, to include mastering, effects, and instruments used. That's a simplification, but not overly so. As one would expect, many ReMixes tip this scale towards one direction or the other; while the ideal mix is a balance of both arrangement and sound quality, in reality there's usually one half of the dichotomy that's gotten a bit more lovin'. In the case of this Sonic 2 mix from BiTMaP, the judges all dug what he did with the arrangement, but were less than crazy about the sounds used, tossing around the phrase "general MIDI". The good news is that good arrangement - especially good, ornate arrangement - can somewhat alleviate subpar or average soundsets. As Protricity puts it: "Wow. Quite an impressive arrangement of this song. The flute-age had me from the beginning. However, I notice that a lot of the accompany brass is off key. It's not too noticeable. A few sections like at 1:08 are the obvious ones. The rest isn't so obvious. This is some real ace arrangement though. Sample quality is in the gutter, but BitMap Pulls it off quite well." - "in the gutter" might be a hyperbole, but the gist is that this arrangement works in spite of, not because of, the sounds used. Still, the parts are panned well, and everything's clean and open, and the creativity BiTMaP's put into other areas makes it all work. Nice, well-sequenced jazz/rock interpretation of Sonic 2; check it out.
on 2010-03-28 17:44:51
Wow I made this seven years ago. I can't believe it. The things I would have done different had I only the experience I do now. I basically did this tune as a high school music theory project at the time. Honestly, this is the first time I've logged onto OCR since this song was accepted into the ranks.
Reading through the seven years' worth of critique is inspiring. Painfully inspiring. DigiPen doesn't give me a lot of time to myself, but I'll see if I can give OCR a PROPER version of this mix in the very near future.
Thank you for all the support! I'll see you soon.
on 2010-02-17 15:18:13
I have to kinda agree with OA about the samples. If this had been done with live instruments, even seven years ago, it would have aged a lot better. I like the arrangement, but it's held back by the method that you brought it to life. That being said, I'm still rocking to this. The arrangement is catchy and upbeat, and I can feel what you wanted to get out of it, even with the songs faults. I actually really like how you have the brass backing things.
on 2010-01-22 09:56:39
Samples definitely are dated now, as for the most part this is pure midi. Some good drum fills and an overall good arrangement make this decent, but this isn't one i'll be revisiting anytime soon. Sorry.
on 2009-12-02 16:32:35
Great job blending these two sources - this was one of my old favorites back in the day. A lot of the samples haven't aged too well (that slap bass is killin' me), but this is still a well-sequenced mashup of two great source tunes.
on 2008-12-08 21:39:28
I like how the two themes are essentially braided together.
The remix plays out like one of the myriad water levels in the Sonic Genesis games:
- Sonic starts out running out on the water with a perfect
blend of the Hydrocity and Metropolis themes.
- At 0:36, Sonic sinks and the Hydrocity theme starts.
- Sonic at 1:06 bursts to the surface and the Metropolis theme
- Sonic goes underwater at 2:05, and it's Hydrocity
- Then from 2:34 to the end, it's the end of the level.
Definitely a must download.
on 2006-07-17 04:11:04
Well, where to begin. Hydrocity and Metropolis Zone both has great themes, the beginning had me going for a while when I recognized what songs being played. But I'm not sure if I like the arrangement with a 100%.
The thing that sounds odd is the drums, they are simply too loud. Not that they shouldn't be, but the flutes and the rest of the samples are getting in the background and cannot be heard as good as they should be. At many moments in the remix, all you can hear is the drums playing while you hardly can hear the rest of the instruments since they are playing too low.
But this doesn't occur everywhere, there are many places in this remix where the balance is alright. But if you have the opportunity to make a remake of it, then I would be gald to listen to it.
on 2005-02-20 02:34:00
Like djp, I like the arrangement but not the sounds. I keep listening for a solid bass foundation, but it's never really there. You know when a song drops the bass for a few measures at the end of a section before the chorus returns (often in techno)? Well, this whole song sounds like that. Generally good, but there's some half-hearted rocking happening.
on 2003-12-07 22:29:14
Whoah....how did he pull it off. Combining both Metrocity Zone from Sonic 2 and Hydrocity Zone from Sonic 3. This is just a kickin-ass remix. I liked how he switched from each of the songs while keeping the rhythm and style going. Also, cool sound effects as well!!
on 2003-12-04 12:16:42
Heh. This is a really great piece. Perhaps not as good as... say... "Live From the Yggdrasil", but perhaps a notch under it.
Like I said before, the flute is good. Plus, I liked the bass. A lot. And I have to agree with everyone else about '38.
/me votes "BottledMetro" up.
on 2003-11-18 14:01:17
This song just makes me think of two games, Sonic The Hedgehog 2 and The Legend of the Mystical Ninja! This sounds like the two combined!!! It totally rocks my socks! LOL!
on 2003-10-17 11:12:06
I didn't really care for this mix. Not really because of the instruments used, but simply because of the clashing to the two songs. HyroCity happens to be my favorite Sonic tune (Particularly Act 2) and I just don't think it goes well with the Metropolis Zone theme. (Not a favorite of mine, although I like the S2Beta version better, which I think I heard hints of in this mix)
I think I would have liked it better if this was just a straight Metropolis or HydroCity mix.
on 2003-09-16 02:35:10
Yes, I have to agree. The source of the song is A work. The way the two songs mix together are nice. I too would love to see it performed with a live band. This mix can go places if the author chooses to take it there.
on 2003-09-15 20:51:53
Im glad to see this remix on the main page of OCR. I got this arrangement a long time ago from Bitmap. I enjoy listening to the creative work Bitmap makes. Sometimes we just have to listen past the sound fonts and focus on the music itself. I myself enjoy this mix and I think it would work very well with a live band. People add interpretation better than computers. Just remember that and let your imagination flow with the content of the music. I know that sounds very very corny but its the truth, and sometimes we forget that. Anyways Congrats
on 2003-09-12 23:42:34
Hmm, as with most, I think it's the intro that bugs me the most. Maybe it's the drum pattern that bugs me, the volume of the drums, or that annoying scratch sample in the background. Anyway, I started enjoying this when it got cookin' at about '38. Hmm, the GM sounds...I guess those can be ignored, but like another reviewer said, the slap bass is annoying, especially when it's soloing. But besides that, I found myself enjoying this remix, and it will be going on my next CD I burn.
Needs more cowbell.
"I've got a fever, and the only cure is more cowbell!"
on 2003-09-12 01:21:19
Imagine my surprise when I visited OCR for the first time in a couple weeks and saw this song on the front page. I remember BitMap plugging it in a WIP thread I started for my own Hydrocity Zone remix. I don't really have a problem with the sample quality, but if BitMap were to release an updated version, I would definitely love to hear it.
Sources Arranged (2 Songs, 2 Games)
- Primary Game:
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (Sega, 1992, GEN)
Music by Masato Nakamura
- "Metropolis Zone"
- Additional Game:
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (Sega, 1994, GEN)
Music by Bobby Brooks, Brad Buxer, C. Cirocco Jones, Darryl Ross, Doug Grigsby III, Geoff Grace, Jun Senoue, Michael Jackson, Tatsuyuki Maeda, Tomonori Sawada
- "Hydrocity Zone: Act 2"
- 4,044,795 bytes
- Size: 4,044,795 bytes
- MD5 Checksum: dac0f533fab0adc09b28817bb87864aa
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