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  1. Here is the beginning of the Original Ocean Loader. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njTxV8blffc&feature=youtu.be&t=47s And then the end https://youtu.be/njTxV8blffc?t=3m38s The original hangs on the chromatics alot more. Even if it's not a chromatic progression. I feel like the composer picked the 4 notes and then chords to go with them. As for the second song. I haven't really taken the time to figure out by ear. I didn't say that it followed the same exact idea but something similar perhaps like just dropping a whole step then playing in that key. Either way I doubt the song is soley played in one key.
  2. I'll definitely give it a shot. I've been going through a phase trying unorthodox progressions and my own personal variants of chromatic chord progressions seems to produce a jazzy sound which I don't have much experience with. But I really like the direction these experiments are taking me musically. When I wrote my song built around chromatics (in my previous post) it was really one of those moments when the song seems like it's writing itself. and it's so different from anything else that I've made which makes it even more unbelievable. This is another song where I think similar is going on, but more complicated. I world really like to pick this song apart one day, but have no idea who wrote this. I recorded it years ago off of my Commodore Amiga. I'm starting to think it might be Jeroen Tel (who went by several psuedonyms that I don't recall), but his style was unique, Anyway, I suspect there might be something similar going on. Without trying to match the chords my best guess for the body of the song is that he's alternating between Major chords, and dropping down using a Sus(2/4) chords. (i.e. Dsus4 - Csus4 - C). There is probably alot more to it considering the various parts of the song, but I think the song is probably based around a progression like that.
  3. This is something that intrigued me ever since I heard the Ocean Loader 2 theme. I always wondered how they got that fantasyscape like sound without resorting to something cliche' like a 2 tone scale (i.e. Original Star Trek Theme, Come Sail Away). So I picked it a part and analyzed the chords. Generally speaking it follows a progression of Bb/Bsus4, F/Fsus4, Ab/Fm, Cm/Csus4 and the notes within those chords to make it chromatic are Bb, A, Ab, G. Trying to find information about this technique seems to be difficult as it mostly seems delegated to Jazz making it somewhat obscure. Another term I found for this was called an Omnibus progression, but the examples I've seen all ascend rather than descend so I don't know if that makes a difference. I've also done some experimenting myself and there is alot you can do with this IMO. I even made my own song following a similar chord progression (link). I'm not that well versed in Theory so I'm interested in hearing some educated insight on this.
  4. I recently got an iPad air and I've been having alot of fun with the garage band app and now starting to dabble into some other stuff. Been impressed with it's capabilities so far and so I've been thinking about using it as a DAW via an interface. I currently have an aging Aardvark Pro Q10 from 2000 which records up to 8 tracks in CD quality. Works great, but I need to have a dedicated PC running Windows 2000 so it is kind of a pain. Especially considering that it is rare for me to need to record more than one stereo track at a time. I have and still plan to use it for the rare occasion when I'm recording an entire band but it would be nice to have something that would interface with an ipad that could record 2-4 tracks at a time at 24/44.1KHz without latency issues. Midi interface would also be nice too, Any recommendations?
  5. The Ocean Loader 1 & 2 themes have always intrigued me for some reason and so one day I decided to analyze them and I figured out that they are based on a chromatic chord progression. So that's when I decided to start coming up with my own ideas based on that. So I spent this weekend messing around with garage band on my iPad and I came up with this among a few other tracks. https://soundcloud.com/chlysm/flight-of-fantasy The lead practically wrote itself.. I really wish I had found out about this a long time ago.
  6. I know that you download the stuff from youtube, but their compressions sounds terrible at times. I'd like to find a place that at least has C64 and Amiga tracks avalable to download as hi res MP3s.
  7. I've never written any lyrics before but I'd be willing to give it a shot if you think my voice is good enough.. https://soundcloud.com/chlysm/closer-to-the-heart-garage-1
  8. A long time ago I had some Commodore Amiga MOD tracks recorded on to CD so I could listen to them on CD players and stuff. Since I knew what the tracks were I didn't bother to write them down and now that I'm going through them over 10 years later it has been a challenge to ID these tracks. Since I have manged to Identify all but three and I was hoping that someone here could have some info that could lead me to identifying the song and artist of these tracks so I can list them properly in iTunes. They may or may not be from video games and files 2 and 3 sound like it might be from Joegir Liljehdal (or however he used to spell his damn name lol). https://soundcloud.com/chlysm/unknown-mod-file-1 https://soundcloud.com/chlysm/unknown-mod-file-2 https://soundcloud.com/chlysm/unknown-mod-file-3
  9. This is going on a friend of mine's Album as an intro on a Horror Metal themed band. He wanted something erie but like a lullaby so I decided to experiment with a 5/8 time which seems to give things an erie sound when used. https://soundcloud.com/chlysm/lullaby-of-the-damned Most of the song is in 5/8, but the bridge is 6/8 for 4 measures and then it goes back to 5/8 and fades out.
  10. I've heard this done at the end of many songs (particularly in progressive rock) and it involves a key change at the end (not referring to the cliche final verse key changes common in 80's songs). Instead it usually takes place at the very end of the song where the lead or vocals has hit it's final note and a chord in a different key is played to give the resolution effect. After which a rave of sorts is performed and the song ends. To provide an example I'll post Dream Theater's Trial of Tears. The song itself is 13 minutes so to skip over to the part I'm referring to.... http://youtu.be/ZJ-epzgRjzo?t=11m40s When LaBrie sings "Rainin deep in heaven" for the last time, the "ven" part at 12:04 is what I'm referring to. I tried to pick it up by ear and it seems like it's going from Abm to F# to C# and when they change they go from Abm to F# to E which would be in a different key.
  11. I really was against doing this because there has to be about a dozen or so remixes and covers of the ocean loader track. This is just a rough mix. I just plugged in my keyboard and started playing and I pasted the tracks together later. I suppose it's more of a cover at this point, but I basically just want to know whether I have something here. Original http://youtu.be/zMMZeqtvyeQ?t=48s Remix https://soundcloud.com/chlysm/another-ocean-loader-2-remix-wip
  12. So thaaaaats what the difference is. So was the sound extension hardware a real analog synth by chance?
  13. I've been checking out alot of the famicom versions of my favorite songs and I've been finding that the famicom version is usually better with Castlevania II OST being the only notable exception that I can think of. What's also weird is how the the different versions can sound nearly identical or drastically different as if they were played on a completely different sound chip altogether. Like some of the sawtooth leads used in these tracks sound reminiscent of the C64 (which I think had a real analog chip onboard). Castlevania III OST NES ( )Famicom (link) Legend of Zelda Title Theme NES (link) Famicom
  14. So are you saying that it doesn't do chords? Just single notes and octaves?
  15. So did they just end up dubbing it over with some harmonic minors then?
  16. Lol. Muslims gonna come and get me if I play the Mohammedan scale, but they;re perfectly cool if I play a harmonic minor scale.
  17. http://youtu.be/njTxV8blffc?t=1m9s I've been wondering how to recreate this effect and I wondering if and how anyone has done it successfully in a sequencer. Listening closely, they sound like chords, but as fast as they are I can't tell if they're arpeggiated or just repeated really fast. And would they be using 16th note triplets or just 32nd notes?
  18. Mohammedan scale? I've never heard anyone refer to harmonic minor scales like that. They are one of my favs too. It just always struck me as odd in regards to how much heavier, raw and gritty the live version sound over the studio. TBH I've always preferred it for that reason.
  19. Okay here's what I have.... https://soundcloud.com/chlysm/take12b I started from scratch (using the raw tracks) and I kept most things in the center. I did however pan the digital synth and lead a bit to help balance out the pokeyness.
  20. I've been getting into some dubstep lately and I recently heard the live version of "Home" from Dream Theater and I couldn't help but notice how much it kinda reminded me of dubstep during the intro. The song was released in 1999 and this was performed in 2000 so dubstep would have been around but ultra obscure. This album also introduced their new (now current) keyboardist; Jordan Rudess who introduced some electronica elements into their future songs. However the dubstep-esque sound mostly comes from the guitar played by Petrucci. Full Track Guitar riff layered with keys and srping loaded wah wah. http://youtu.be/hXIHPOV2yl8?t=1m58s Nasty digital synth (this is mixed alot higher in both the live and non live CD versions of this track. http://youtu.be/hXIHPOV2yl8?t=3m16s same part in studio version. http://youtu.be/GqHSrJ2mLo0?t=3m2s I guess it wouldn't be that hard to believe considering how experimental Dream Theater are with their music. It's mostly interesting that they would have taken influence or even known about something that was so obscure at the time.
  21. That guitar esque sound is a keyboard voice I have called "psych noise" and it has a tendency to sound guitar-esque, especially when layers and phaser has been applied. In pure form, it sounds like a floppy disk drive when you run them with a midi controller. I kinda have a thing for nasty and gritty sounds so I do use that voice quite a bit. The drum track itself is layered and I did pan some of the high hats toward the left as they are a more trebly sound. As for the bass synth. That is layered and I applied a treble layer to help the bass cut through everything else and preserve most of it's raw sound. The lead itself is just a detuned sawtooth with portamento. I added a reverb layer and crossfaded that soft 80's arp at the end. But it's mostly pretty basic. And that 80's arp is the same arp used in Rush's "The Camera Eye" from the OPX Pro II. I've been looking for an excuse to use it somewhere for a long time lol. Anyway, I'm getting ready to start on this again. It's gonna be a little while because because I'm going back to the completely raw tracks. What I have trouble with the most is that after I've heard the same track over and over for awhile, everything starts just blending together and I can't tell whether I made a good or a bad change in the mix. I guess it's part of the learning process. Thank you for your patience. The soft 80's arp
  22. I agree. I think I took a little too much off the lead this time around so I'll bring it back up. Gonna be honest that I don't really know how to do alot of these things. I personally use audacity to mix (I can hear you laughing lol). Personally speaking, I like to try to keem my lower frequencies on the right and my higher frequencies on the left to get achieve stereo widening. Not sure if that's a good practice or not TBH. I'm not going to get a chance to hack at this again until the weekend, but if someone could explain in more laymens terms in regards to what I need to do I would appreciate it so that way I could read up on it and give this another shot.
  23. https://soundcloud.com/chlysm/take-11 Here's what I got now.
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