Mythrill

I'm not actually asking about your credibility. I just wanted to know if you ever had to lie to a corporation in order to be hired.

I was searching a little more on this problem. One point of concern is that employers *could* hack into your profile to see personal stuff. While they're not hackers themselves, they could hire someone to do it (less likely) or use specific tools that exploit security holes (more likely; Orkut had this security problem with private photos once). Another point of concern is that there were cases of people being fired simply by saying that their work was boring. If someone hates me enough, they can easily impersonate me and create a profile with a bunch of photos (not necessarily embarassing, just to legitimate the profile) and say that I hate where I work. Your boss could do it him or herself for whatever reason.

Sorry, you're right indeed.

1. Nope, we were originally talking about how social networking can make you an unemployed person if you're not careful. 2. So you're arab and muslim? Tell me... do you live in the US? If you do, did you ever need to lie to get a job?

Strong arguments indeed. However, I'd like to point out a few things. 1) You're confusing "arab" with "muslim". Perhaps how I worded the last argument referencing this doesn't help you here. "Muslim" is the religion. Anyone can be a muslim the same way one can be arab, and the two of them are usually, but not always linked (an arab can be an orthodox catholic and a redneck could be muslim). Therefore, to reject a muslim person, the only way is doing some "research". 2) Telling the employer you're married is one thing; the employer actively eavesdropping my cyber conversations is another. In the first situation, the employer is passive; you told him because somehow you wanted to. In the second situation, even though you didn't tell him, he decided to "research" by himself and found out about you.

The problem is, he didn't defend what this kind of question would be any helpful to the discussion to begin with. He knowing wether I do have a job or not does not help any iota into clarifying whether work harassment is ethical or not.

Wow Bleck, instead of being so overly-creative and doing some impersonation where I say I'm 14 years old, I tought you'd defend yourself and say you're not half brained. Sorry, I forgot you don't understand proper speech. Let me try again. lulz bl4ck your not originalz defnd yerself bitch

Yes, I tought you would say that. However, I'm not attacking you to discredit your arguments. I'm attacking you because you pissed me off. And that's not ad hominem. Happy, my dear half-brained friend?

1. Why are you so deserving of any "proof" of my "credentials"? 2. You're not supposed to trust me because what I said is coming from me. You're supposed to believe me or not based on my own arguments. As I said, it doesn't matter what I do or I am; if something I say holds true, me not working or not is irrelevant; it won't be more truthful if I work, it won't be a lie if I don't. 3. I went into "jerk mode" because of the personal insults directed to me, not because I'm winning or losing anything. Fine. Do so. As I said, will what I say be any more or less truthful because of that? What's next, are you judging if what I say is credible based on the job I have? Will my arguments be more truthful if I'm a doctor than if I'm a musician?

See, my half-brained friend... ethinicy isn't really related to "skin color", but with culture and religion as well. My boss could hate muslims and only find out this information looking at myspace. What am I supposed to do, omit that I'm muslim from my profile? Oh, but I forgot... you having half a brain does not allow you to link ethinicy to religion, does it?

(jerk mode) No it isn't, you dumbfuck idiot. Questioning the boundaries of these things are not related to me having or not a job, or to the job I have for that matter. Now drop your l33t sp34k and fuck off. (end jerk mode) Happy?

If you're trying to acuse my credibility, you should at least try to write well-formed sentences.

He asked me how old I was and if I had a job. Does it mean that my points are more valid if I have a job? Will it make me any more "credible"? Honestly, you're almost making me into a defendant when this is clearly not the point of the whole topic.

You're saying this pretty much because you don't like my opinion, not because of the merits of itself. So far I've brought to attention possible employer abuse, and questioned if these actions are truly ethic.

You pretty much summed up what I and Meteo were saying. One more thing to be asked here is: is this employer really deciding on character? How can we say for sure? We can't, really. This employer could decide on ethinicity, but say he/she dismissed you based on your character.