Eccles
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But why does she turn into a big floaty woman in a box!?
It still makes no sense
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He was smashed into the TV?
Looks like a gunshot wound to me
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Note:
Gyromancy is like a ouija board with humans.
A holy circle is drawn on the floor and the letters of the alphabet arranged round it. Somebody walks into the circle and staggers about, spelling out a prophecy on the letters they touch
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Did you miss it your way through the first time?
I must've forgotten it
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Not to break off on too much of a tangent, but maybe Eccles could varify something. In the Japanese and European versions of Silent Hill, an extra quote was included in the game, so I've heard. I believe it had something to do with the town fire article Harry reads. I believe the quote said something like "the date of this article is the same day we found Cheryl."
Nope. To be frank, I dont really recall an article about the fire. The only newspaper in the game (aside from the "BILL SKINS A FIFTH" ones in town, which always make me giggle) is in the medical room and that has an article clipped out, so you ant read it
Also, is it true that the Mumblers (knife-welding children) were replaced by the Clawfingers (clawed teddybears)? I heard the were edited out of the game because of censorship. Why, I wonder?This is true. In the school, the little children with knives were replaced with bears. And not just in the school either, they're also in the teaser level at the beginning.
This is because a few months before there was a shooting in a primary (elementary) school in Dunblaine, Scotland. Some lunatic broke in and gunned down a class of 5 year olds, so the censors figured it would be offensive to the families to have children being shot in the game.
Incidentally, they left the invisible children in the game...there's only a few of them and you only find them in nowhere, but there are one or two hildren in the game. Apparently they were considered by the censors, not to resemble children enough.
Also, I had this discussion with stan...
Where, in the US edition of silent hill, does harry say
"its like...I was there...but not really"
Because it isnt in the Eurpoean edition, except for in the fucked up glitchy cutscene you can get in the Amusement park
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*bzzzt*
Im sorry, that's wrong.
The talisman of metratron is historically used to protect people.
The mark of samael is traditionally a summoning circle, designed to, get this, summon Samael.
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dude...it was 7am, I was tired out of my skull...dont blame me u,u
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Thank you all, for your theories on SH2. I've only beaten it three times so far, and I haven't gotten the Rebirth ending just yet. I'm working on it though.
Dude...the rebirth ending explains jack schitt.
It is told in the first game that Alessa was burned alive, probably by her mother, in order to stop Samael from using her.Alessa was burned alive to cause so much pain her soul left the body (which, according to some cultures, is what happens when the human body is put through immense pain)
The theory of her only having half her soul, might be a result of the tremendous injury and pain from the fire. But... At some point she dies. Or, atleast, she is reborn. This is when Harry and his wife finds her as a baby.Cheryl is half of alessa.
Again, I draw here on the notes in the school.
The ones saying "Who are you" and such aren't meant for Harry, but theyre meant for Cheryl.
Which explains the reply "m e a r e U"
Perhaps the scorched body of Alessa lives on, even though she has been reborn as Cheryl, and when Alessa finally dies, Samael summons Cheryl, and Harry, to Silent Hill in order for them to complete the ritual and manifestation of Samael into our world. But something that's more likely to be true, in my opinion, is that the scorched body lives on, so that Samael has some power in our world, but it's not enough to change it completely. He then summons Cheryl to Silent Hill, and with her help, he can be complete.The second one is correct. This is explained, as ifrit said, in certain endings to silent hill 1
in Silent Hill 1, the people who are drawn into Alessa's world have some use to Daliah, excluding Lisa.Except that Lisa was probably dead to begin with so she doesnt count.
I believe that Daliah is the one who is helping Harry out along his search. She places helpful items, clues and hints along his path (path of the hermit consealed by Flauros). Daliah states her intentions everytime you speak with her, though it is a bit cryptic.That doesnt make sense, y'know?
Dhalia is trying to help harry...even though she knows it could stop her seven year pln to take over the world? I highly doubt people would do that.
Think about what certain things try to get Harry to do. Take for instance the phone call in Midwich. The call excites Harry to find Cheryl quickly. Don't be fooled because you hear Cheryl's voice on the phone, it might not really be her. Look again at the drawings left behind in the alley and on Levin St.; they are written in Cheryl's handwriting, but how easy is it to copy a seven-year-old's handwriting? These things drive Harry to keep looking for Cheryl/Alessa, but if she didn't want to be found by Daliah, why would she entice Harry, the pawn, to find her?The other theory goes that it's alessa manifesting those things so she can guide Harry to her, since he is the good guy (and the only one who can kill her, which is what she wants...hence her "Daddy...thank you daddy...goodbye" which I have as my shutdown noise ^.^)
And three, she tries to pursuade him to stop looking for her by using Lisa, which is unusual since Cheryl never met Lisa, and is too peaceful an approach after trying to kill him.The rest of the post warranted chewing apart, but I'll spend time on this one.
Cheryl is NOT creating the alternative silent hill...okay?
It may be a hard concept to grasp that this sweet little 7 year old isnt summoning hell, but trust me on this one...she aint.
Lisa is proof that the world is something Alessa created. Since she only appears in the alternative world and cannot leave the hopsital; it proves that Alessa created her from her memories (since the alternative world is everything that alessa knows)
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thank for the link ifrit !
Eccles >>
Everything was made like each character is living a nightmare..
I would say no to that.
Since Kauffmann seems to have no problem in the game (save for the one instance when you shoot a growler offa him)
Same deal with Dhalia.
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maybe cybil pass on the another reality because she was near harry's car. i suppose when alessa's half spirit cheryl came near her, something happens and she was drowned to the foggy silent hill. harry and cybil was drowned there to. That don't explain why she was not turned into a monster at least not immediately....
Everybody in silent hill 1 was in an altered state of consciousness when the game begins.
Harry was unconscious at the wheel
Lisa was also unconscious
Kaufmann was taking a nap
Cybil was in Brahms.
similarly, when silent hill goes to the darkside with Cybil in it, she was knocked out thanks to the leech that got her in the sewers.
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Oh, and this Silent Hill comic that came up earlier? Pray tell where it was from, please?
It was no comic. It was a clip from the UFO ending in SH3.
No, the other comic that Dracko posted.
I do believe I have 6 more pages of that lurking about my HD somewhere
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I also have the DVD on here...though I'ma dump it tonight cause I could do with 16mb more space
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I see...where did this half-soul theory originate? Was it stated in any of the games? Bearing in mind I haven't played 3 much at all, I fully realize my take on the games could be totally incorrect.
It was explicitlly explained in SH1
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ifirit, very interesting theory.
Silent Hill 2 was by far my favorite, mainly because James's character is so utterly believable. I tend to think he is absolutely nutty as they come, yet very human.
I didnt like James...really.
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>.>Listen to cuddly pyramid head, children, he knows more than I do...Cuddly Pyramidhead is the only Pyramidhead I like. The other ones give me rape nightmares.
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SILENT HILL 2 HENTAI!
Actually, I do have silent hill tentacle-dickgirl-vaginabreast hentai...
Where's this DVD that you all keep talking about?sh2 first edition with 2 cd the game and the making of
And is that available anywhere, did you have to preorder something, or what?
Got it off-a ebay, I think...
Anyway, it's called "lost Memories" and its got images from the silent hill games, including Cut-scenes, monsters, concept art...that kinda thing.
It's not worth the full price, but I got it cheap, so thats great.
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there is a pyramid head in sh2 but not a "cuddly" one !!
and at the beginning pyramid head don't have a pyramid in his head but some tissue wrapped around his head.
Yes it does, doesnt it?
The DVD says it does...
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Listen to cuddly pyramid head, children, he knows more than I do...
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i have the brady one they are called doormen
In one strategy guide they say Lisa turns into a zombie.
People dont know anything.
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I have no idea why people would suggest it's a door...but Ive heard crazier theories about silent hill (HARRY R PIRAMID HEAD LOLOLOL) so I'm not too surprised...
Yeah, that's just crazy. Harry's flying around with the aliens. =) 'Tis a shame James wasn't in the SH3 UFO ending... But I can't complain too much... The UFO ending in SH3 rocked. Love that song!!
He's in there twice.
everybody call them doormen but i agree with eccles bedman have more signification...I do believe in the official Konami strategy guide it calls them bedmen. I'm just putting two and two together, here...y'know, with Angela and all...
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Erm... bedmonster? I always heard them being called "doormen", though you're probably right, it would make more sense.
dude...its a bed
In fact...
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From the SH DVD
It's easier to see what they're trying to convey there, isnt it...
I have no idea why people would suggest it's a door...but Ive heard crazier theories about silent hill (HARRY R PIRAMID HEAD LOLOLOL) so I'm not too surprised...
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The fact that Angela would do all she could not to see the face of...you know who...made it so that pyramid head doesnt have a face.
(Also, this is why the people in bedmonster are positioned the way they are)
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Close.
Silent hill is what you bring to it.
Consider Angela...
Now consider the bedmonsters and the pyramid heads.
See what I'm getting at here?
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I thought they only released the one CD...
Though it would make sense.
"Red Pyramids" isnt on my OST either.
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y'know, Im beginning to think that my silent hill OSTs aren't from the series at all.
I mean...the UFO themes to SH1 and 2 arent on the CDs...the SH1 CD is missing the out-take reel song and I dont remember seeing a track called BUTTERFLIES anywhere on the damn SH2 CD
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See?
Moths.
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oh I understand WHY she turns into a floaty woman in a box...
Its just WHY a floaty woman in a box? Why not something like the Goddess in SH1?
(As for the guy shot in the appartment being shot by Eddie, I'll have to challenge that one, since Eddie shot the guy in the knee. He tells you in the meat locker "He'll have a hard time playing football on that knee now!")