Scrap McNapps
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Well I got rid of the guitar where it seemed to be a bit much, and I'm still trying to pump the bass to a good level (but on my laptop it sounds much louder than on other sources). I also added a rate drop near the end to make the final buildup cooler. I added separate parts for the rhythm guitar to add "rhythm" instead of melody
http://www.mediafire.com/?miymkvluqw3
Getting better?
The guitar sounds MUCH better in this version. The panning is a nice touch. I like the other techniques you added to this.
I agree with Neblix with the about the :27 related parts. Of the two, I think the decay would fit better IMO.
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Thanks for the feedback. =)
- I used these drums in my last WIP and they were fine from what I read. I think the problem in this case might be that I tuned the toms and the snare to a sound reference for them for this project. I'll tune them again though to see how it works out.
-Dynamic contrast I looked up just now. lol. I plan on extending the song a bit more so I'll try and give that a go too.
-For the low end I am using a lead. I made it low. It's not a typical sound but I felt it helped with the mood so I just rolled with it.
-Reverb... I actually used quite a bit. I guess the reverb preset I used didn't cut it. And soloing the drums, it really didn't cut it. I'll experiment with with different types.
Thanks again.
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Seeing that college folk are broke most of the time, a free one is in order. DSK Brass I hear is pretty decent.
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Well I would if anybody else posted in this thread
but no worries, I have people in my college group giving me suggestions too.
And let's see. You mean move the whole thing up so it's in the same key? That's not too much trouble and doesn't change it all that much. I'll see how that sounds and post another (hopefully soon to last) WIP soon.
As a person who is new himself and begging for feedback, I should also give input, but I kinda have a rock bias for this song. That said I'll try and give my opinion.
-The cymbal roll in the beginning is fine.
-I don't like the guitar either. It is too clean for me. Experiment with some distortion in there to give it a Les Paul Gibson type of sound. If you don't like it you can always go back to how it was.
-the part with the piano around the 1:30 mark, I noticed you got some type of stab there (assuming) brass. try doing them at either a higher velocity or octave (the same octave you have the horns at 1:39).
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Oh man Kontakt 4 is making me all warm and tingly so far. That is all.
The choir library is nice. Besides the oohs and ahhs it has uuuuuus, mmmmms, and iiiiiiiiiiis. The variety is welcome.
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Copped mine today. Can't wait to install.
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Ain't that what I just said?
Bah, never mind.
I agree; electric guitar= works better.
Yeah you did... my bad
And for that fast arpeggio, I don't recommend using a sax for that. Try using the piano there instead. Put a little more decay on the piano's reverb. And I don't recommend using just quarter notes for the piano either. If there's a space between the notes, hold it down.
And my previous advice:
Add a big meaty bassline. xD
And this goes for all instruments: add some reverb.
You think the OP should implement that synth bass he has been using in the track would fill that low a bit more or use a different quality one for certain parts?
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I would use a different guitar. An electric guitar would work better. I like the drum pattern you got. Otherwise, I like what you got so far.
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I enjoyed listening to this piece. The samples used were good. But like it was mentioned, it does feel like an upgraded version of the song and OCR wants a touch more originality from the remixer. Work on the arrangement a bit more.
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I bumped this thread rather than make a new once since I am working on the same song.
Main source
Mini-sources
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgrC1CFOJKg&feature=related
Update as of Dec.11/2011
-I junked the synths and the cabasa and replaced them with orchestral instrument samples.
-I used drums that sounded a bit more epic.
-Rather than layering bells, I have like two different types of bells in total.
-Made some minor changes to the arrangement.
Still some mixing issues I need to work on (I did this on headphones), but this one sounds closer to how I had originally envisioned it. Has a bit more "power" to it you could say.
Feedback is appreciated.
Update as of Sept.9
My submission got rejected. The issues were
-It was too sparse (some of it due to instrument levels and writing)
-The beat lacked power.
-Lack of bass to fill the low-end.
-It was too simple (not a lot going on a most times).
-Rigid drum sequencing.
So on this 9th WIP is an attempt to fix those issues. I also trimmed off a minute to reduce the fat and remastered it.
Feedback is welcome.
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Don't throw limiters or compressors over things.
Just make them not clip in the first place.
If it's too quiet, compressors are not the solution to the problem. Turn the volume of your speakers up.
I agree. I would also like to add if you find that all your stuff is clipping prior to limiting, you are running a few of your tracks too hot and you need to turn down the volume of a couple of your tracks (at your discretion). Limiting of course raises the volume of your music, but it can also affect your dynamic range as certain sounds and frequencies are cut while the lower sounds get louder. It's very noticable when you play with the limiter.
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This is an AWESOME track. I really enjoyed listening to this. Gonna give it a couple of more listens.
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He makes a good point. The worst case scenario is that doesn't come out the way you want it (Which is VERY common so don't worry, it doesn't only happen to you). In that case you learn from it, and make the necessary changes.
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I don't know about the hi-hat, perhaps a clap, but DEFINATELY a tambourine or some finger cymbals would be nice, who knows maybe both at different parts.
EDIT: Actually... a hit-hat could work depending on the quality of it.
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Drama withstanding and all that crap, um...
Your guitar work here is really awesome.
I agree. The guitar work was really well done.
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Drum Kits need reverb.
Added some more. If that one doesn't work I will use a different one.
Horns are too far away (try upping the volume and make them more upfront.)
Done
And I was hoping if you could just send the FL file with the bass included, I'll just replace the bass sound.Yeah, I don't use FL Studio. I use Ableton Suite 8 so I can only export Live Sets, wavs, and MIDI files.
Here is the updated ones with your suggestions.
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I missed out on the Komplete 5 deal... I won't miss out on this. So gonna get it.
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In mainstream music you can get away with having a drum loop on repeat, notably in rap music and different variety of electronica music. Most of the people don't really care nowadays. That said, OCR demands a bit more out of a remixer.I learned that the hard way and I am still learning. It's not necessarily a bad thing, it forces you to get more creative and become better at your craft.
Anyways, I pretty much agree with a lot of people on here about the drums. There isn't enough variation of drum patterns for a song like this. If there was some music that inspired you to take the song in this direction then listen carefully to the drum patterns to give you some ideas.
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I like this. Well done!
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I didn't listen yet, but I can automatically tell your biggest mistake is the reverb.
Never reverb master track. xD
Listening to it: It actually doesn't seem much of a problem, but I'd still pull out the reverb on master.
I'd recommend using a Upright Bass, you're bass is WAY too low, even for bass. Go easy on the harmony, buddy. And I really recommend introducing a full drum kit earlier on, it's hard to carry a song on cruise control bongos. Your drums weren't a problem before, I recommend you keep the ones you had before.
If you download KORE PLAYER, it's got a good upright bass. KORE PLAYER is a free sampler.
If you give me an mp3 version with no bass, I could give you an example of what you could make it sound like based on my suggestions.
With reverb, it sounds much better.
But the reverb's are conflictin, your electric guitar's up nice and close but your horn sounds like it sounds like it's across a stadium.
Thanks for the feedback. I took out the drum kit not because I thought there was something wrong with them but because I was going through a destroy and rebuild type of thing and I normally add them last whenever I make something. I also wasn't going to bother putting them in if the melody was still crappy. I was just waiting for an okay. Well I put them back in and varied the patterns a bit more so it sounds even less boring than before (I hope I didn't overdo it though). I tried to get the Kore Player from NI but I am not able to download it from IE. I'll try using Firefox. I found another bass. I think it is an upright one from the sound.
So this newer one I am posting is using a different bass.
I adjusted the reverbs and levels so the horns should sound closer.
The drums I added are the same ones I used in the past, but I varied the patterns a bit more in certain areas.
I took out the chords in the guitar and put it back the way it was originally.
Still working on an ending.
And here is one without the bass.
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The percussion is pretty weak. Not enough omph. The lead is a bit piercing at times (IMO). It is a bit repetitive.
Overall, I like the structure and the feeling of the song. Just need toe refine the mix a bit.
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You know what you were right... it didn't sound Latin at all. It didn't even have the vibe I was originally aiming for. Looking back I made that one out of frustration. I did some rearranging of a couple of things with this newer one.
A couple of changes were made sequence wise
The bass should carry the melody, but it switches up about 2/3s of the way through to make it less boring.
Still using the same instruments but trying different horn samples. Though integrating it into the tune is still a work in progress.
I stopped being stingy and I reverbed the HELL out of this one, I used two different quality reverbs for the instruments and one insert for the master so they all sound like they are in the same area. I just hope I didn't put in too much.
Still working on the drum pattern and ending.
RIP AWAY!
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Well I made a couple of changes.
-I added a layer to the Horns and the Latin Percussion section
-I replaced the bongo only section of the introduction with the electric guitar.
-I joined the separate melodies of the first verse and put it all in one.
-I attempted to make a smooth transition from the first verse to the second verse using the initial guitar melody.
-There is a horn buildup in the second verse.
-Most of the latin percussion variation is in the second verse and breakdown.
-Used a different ending for the arrangement.
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Hey everyone, I have been working on the track a bit more. I did some work on the ending so that it sounds like a ending. I was going for a triumphant/ joy type of feeling (not to sure how to describe it). Right now I am debating on the ending. Right now I have three choices. I'm gonna post them right now and tell me which one would sound better.
Volcano Valley Zone-Sonic 3D Blast Genesis Version
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I have 2 other WIPs of this, but this is one I submitted first. My first version I did render it, but I didn't want to submit it knowing I could do more with it already. The second one the same reason, but moreso on the mixing side of things and I wanted to try and implement the tips I got when I did one of my other side projects This resulted in my third one which I thought was the most polished. Still had some other ideas though.
Anyways, here is my 4th work in progress.
-I used a different reverb preset for my instruments and I gave the drums their own reverb preset... and I even gave the hi-hat and cymbols their own preset. lol. It should sound less dry hopefully.
-I adjusted the tune of the Toms and tried a different compression setting for them. They should pop out a bit more. I also increased the volume of the snare.
-I made two attempts at dynamic contrast in two areas of the song.
-I added a bit more melody to the song and as a result it is longer.
Well... enjoy and critique away!