DaMonz
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Yeah, I might be overreacting at this point. I know that it's not a problem for Super Bowl performers, I'm not that stupid.
I think I'm just scared of the long-term impacts that this attitude towards live performers could be. I mean, if all music shows paid artists exclusively in exposure, would this system still work? I dunno.
Sorry for over-thinking, I tend to do that too much.
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Really? You no likey the dungeon songs? Personally, they're probably my favorite dungeon songs in any Zelda game, other than maybe the stuff from Skyward Sword.
Yeah, I no likey
The main melody that's repeated in all of the new dungeon tracks doesn't sound interesting to me at all, sadly (I insist on the "new" here, I think the dungeon covers from LttP are also excellent). But this is all very subjective of course. Sorry for getting a bit off the topic btw xD
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however, this happened:
and now there's a chance some kid that was literally like not even 5 when Koji composed the music for Super Mario Bros. could be his successor, whether or not he'll "surpass" Koji.
Honestly, when Koji dies or retires, this guy needs to take over for him. I trust this guy would nail it.
That soundtrack is excellent, but I feel like this new guy is better at covers than originals. The arrangements are super awesome, but when I heard the new dungeon tracks (as I was playing) I was very disappointed. I think they sounded too (oh boy, overused word in this thread) generic.
The track in the final dungeon was pretty cool though, but... Meh, I honestly don't know if he could be as versatile and universally appropriate as Koji. Let's hope he will
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I don't think that's the point. Of course he'll get his money in the end, because it's that one guy. I wouldn't mind if he was paid a thousand, a million, a bazillion, as long as he gets paid directly for his service. I believe that encouraging "exposure" as a reasonable payment for live performance is the best way to slowly but surely kill the profession of musician (performer).
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I for one think that this is absolutely preposterous.
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If instrument makes it generic and forgettable, then I think pretty much all NES music is generic and forgettable, because it all sounds the same (a couple oscillators and a white noise generator), just with different melodies (see how that doesn't work).
I think you're actively refusing to understand how the word "generic" is being used here.
It's not about the instruments, it's about the writing (unless I'm the one misinterpreting things)Also, Koji Kondo is for me by very far the greatest genius of video game music, and not only because of his older work. I'm not saying all other composers are bad, not at all, there are a lot of other extremely talented composers who made amazing soundtracks that are very dear to me. I do think though that Koji Kondo in particular is unsurpassable. A bit like comparing Mozart to Salieri, he's got that little special something that makes him just THAT good. I don't think I ever heard a track from him that wasn't absolutely spot on for its context.
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I'll just leave this here: http://youtu.be/SIfLGaJzwKk
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I very much disagree. A game composer's job by definition is to write music to fit a game. It's not to write music that he can also release as an album on iTunes.
Hmm and I agree with you. I seriously don't understand how you came to this conclusion from what I was saying. Maybe I didn't express myself properly? xD
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Obvious troll bait, and I'm not going to be the only person with a rebuttal, but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeHjfXYBVak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXv8JVbqwao
But hey everyone has their own opinion, and that's fine.
As a matter of fact, most of these (all of them maybe except the AA:DD track) are good examples of what I believe to be "generic" music. I'm not saying it's not quality work, these are all great tracks. I simply think that when games have music like this playing in the background, its music becomes more of an accessory than a key part of the core of the game. You could replace it with a completely different track that has a similar mood and it would be just fine and I'm pretty sure a lot of people wouldn't notice. That's the small part where I agree about the "modern game music hating" phenomenon. Again, just to clarify, I know there are a huge amount of different types of "modern game music", but I think the tracks you linked are good examples of what causes the global generalization thing.
I believe that when a game's music feels like it's unique and feels like it couldn't belong anywhere else than in said game, is the most important objective that a game composer could be trying to achieve.
Again, this is all very very subjective.
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I think it's always a bad idea to generalize on such a large scale. We're talking about hundreds and hundreds of games here.
I do believe though that popular modern games with high budget tend to have generic music. I think comparing these games' music with old games' music is just like comparing apples with... with... elephants. You can't compare 8-bit chiptunes with a full-fledged orchestra. With 8-bit chiptune, you pretty much have no other choice than to make memorable and catchy tunes, because of this genre's technical limitations. When you have a whole orchestra at your disposal, it's the opposite problem. This genre's limitation in my opinion is that there are no limitations. Making "catchy" and "memorable" orchestral music is one damn hard challenge if you ask me, but I think it's much more easily appropriate than chiptunes for building atmospheres and specific moods. I'm not saying it's impossible, though. For instance, I think Super Mario Galaxy's music is a good example of how big scaled orchestral music can be used in a more "old-school game music" way.
The bottom line for me is that I think it's pointless to say that game music is "turning bad". Not only is the whole subject very subjective, but there are TONS of games out there. Generalizing that much sounds very biased to me.
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beyond that, every single console this time around just feels more like an upgrade rather than a whole entire new console, and the Wii U is a serious testament to that.
I soooo very much disagree with this statement.
Honestly, after trying it, I think the Wii U's controller is the most interesting hardware innovation in console gaming I've ever seen. The controller's individual screen adds a whole new aspect to the gameplay (especially in multiplayer games).
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Though in my particular situation: I have a PC. I'm not a master PC race guy, I love consoles and own like practically all of them. But.. there isn't a compelling reason for me to get a PS4/XBO yet, as nearly everything whats offered there is going to be on the PC too (and cheaper). So I actually have FAR more Wii U games to look forward to than PS4/XBO at this point. I actually really want a PS4, but until IT has something I can't get elsewhere, I can't really justify the cost. (I'll get one eventually, just because, but no rush on it yet)
I agree with this. And I think this comes down to the point that a lot of people seem to be missing: the "main attraction" of the PS4/XBone (which is the strong technical specs) don't make these unique. I tried the PS4, and it felt to me like the PS3 all over again. Maybe it's just me, and maybe I'm wrong by assuming that I'd feel the same about XBone/360, but I'd be really surprised. And this leads me to thinking: when will people get bored of getting the same console, with a few tweaks and better graphics? PS8? PS20? I feel like it's not a reliable route for consoles to take, because in the long run I'm pretty sure computers will outpower pretty much any traditional console eventually (and this is difficult for me to admit, because I'm a huge console fan).
This is why I think Nintendo is headed in the right direction. I believe that by innovating (DS, 3DS, Wii, Wii U all brought something new and unique), they are working on securing the long-term future for console gaming. It's a risky thing to do, but I believe in them. And I really don't see how the PS1-2-3-4 and XBox-360-1 formula could keep going forever.
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I haven't read everything that's been said here, but I'd just like to weigh in on something.
I feel like a lot of people tend to criticize the Wii U for no good reason. I've heard a lot of people saying that it's subpar on the hardware and stuff like that, but most of them haven't even tried the console. I mean, some of them don't even know the main controller is a pad.
I really dislike the way consoles are being judged recently. Who cares about heavy graphical processing and all that if you don't need it? Nintendo games don't need to look "realistic" like war games or such, and I think their hardware choices are perfectly adequate. For example, Nintendo Land is one of the recent console games that I've had the most fun with, and the game has beautifully clean graphics and no performance problems whatsoever.
And if anyone tells me the Wii U needs more games, I agree but please don't tell me XBone and PS4 have any more
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Happy Birthday to the greatest avenger of all!
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Sounds good!
The website you linked definitely fully covers both soundtracks though, just to clarify. -
Awesome, Link Battle it is, then! It's the one I'd have picked anyway
I'll try to get you a WIP as soon as I can.Isn't Felix Battle a track from Lost Age though?
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Oh. My. God. It's happening!
Golden Sun is probably the game that has the most meaningful soundtrack for me. I definitely want in on this project!
Only, every unclaimed track that I'd still like to pick are not in the track listing in the first post. Would it be possible to add any of these:
If you don't mind any of them being added, please tell me and I'll pick one. If you have any preference for a specific track to be added among these four, don't hesitate to pick for me
Also please tell me if you'd really rather not add a track, and I'll pick something from the track list you suggested, but I'd really prefer doing a battle track Cheers! Excitement!
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Have fun, man!
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I don't think I know the inside joke, but it sure sounds like this is related.
Also, HAPPEH BARFDAI PEE-AYTCH!!1!!1!11!
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I'm challenging Darkesword to a beatbox-off next MAGFest. If I win, he has to take the extra 'e' out of his name. If he wins, I have to put the vowels in mine.
Haha! These have to be the funniest and most awesome stakes ever
Also, DarkeSword, despite the whole thing being a bit humorous and all, I honestly think you did great
And wow, I didn't think my Melodica would give such an impression! I'm glad you guys had fun with it. That Mario 2 jam WAS very awesome though, it's a shame we don't have it recorded. We're gonna have to do it again sometime then!
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DaMonz and SirChadlyOC are amazing. They're like Zorn and Thorn. I mean, I thought they were the same person up until the last day when I saw them standing next to each other. I honestly don't really know which is which because they're practically identical. I think they even had the same glasses.
Haha! I didn't realize we looked so much alike.
Also, all of you people whom I met over there were all as awesome as awesome gets! I really enjoyed myself with you guys! If it hadn't been of my spinal disk herniation I'd have surely stuck around with you more than I did, but I'm still very glad that I managed to have as much fun as I did.
Highlights for me:
-Epic roommates. Chadly managed the suite's general tidiness like a bawss, and thanks again Garpocalypse for letting me use the bed on that last night!
-Some of the best multiplayer game experiences in my whole life (8-man Mario Kart, fuckin TEN-man tetris, and cross-court slam dunks)
-Jamming in the room with XPRT and Diodes. Short, but super sweet
-WillRock's racist bag
-The OCR keyboard
-Just being there, and probably other stuff that I can't think of right now xD
Love you all, guys!
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Can't wait to get there!
If all goes well I should arrive by bus tomorrow evening (around 9PM) at the Greyhound bus terminal. My plan is to get from there to MAG by taxi, but if anyone wouldn't mind getting a bit out of his way to pick me up, I'd greatly appreciate it (although it's not necessary). I would also not mind at all paying you for your trouble.
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Maaaagfeeeeest!!!
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Congratulations Boss!
Moar Pretselz!
NFL doesnt pay musicians, or its taxes.
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This is precisely what I had in mind. I couldn't have worded it better
I'd also like to add that I know performers who literally got ripped off by being barely paid for their work because the employer felt that he was the one offering a service to the performers by letting them play. I've mostly heard it happening at unofficial/small-scale gigs, like bar or restaurant gigs and such, but the problem is still very noticeable and definitely real to me. It's simply not noticeable to everyone (yet).