*NO* Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 'Solace' *RESUB*

[Liontamer]

David really needs to learn the proper use of "&". - LT

Original Decision: http://www.ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17830

Contact Info

Remixers: The Joker, 2p

Real Name: David L. Puga, Phil (I feel bad I don't know his last name)

Websites: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=441573 (<2p)

Forum #: 2p 4968

ReMix Info

Song Title: Solace ()

Game: Zelda Ocarina of Time (or whichever Zelda game you want)

Orig Song: Main Menu theme ()

Comments:

The Joker - So, a while back, I was playing Minish Cap, & it reminded me of how awesome the select theme music was. I loaded up FL & started playing around with the melody, hoping to make a trip hop song, but quickly scrapped the idea. Why, you might ask, well silly billy, because I realized it would make a killer hip hop track. So, yeah, I ended up making it hip hop, albeit alternative hip hop, what with the orchestral swells & what not. Then decided that I needed a vocalist, & Phil stepped up, which was awesome.

This was 2 years ago, give or take a few months. Things kept coming up, & it was put on the back burner. Then, by chance, I loaded up the flp file & started using what I had learned over that 2 years (give or take). Contacted Phil, & he was still down with doing it, & we started down the finish line, refining both the instrumental & vocals. And I'm damned proud we did!

Edit: So, the track was mastered too loud last time, & without any finesse. I think I've hit a sweet spot, & if not, it's still way better than it was. Not pro mastering in the least, but alright. Giggidy giggidy!

2p - I wrote the lyrics and performed them for this ReMix. The lyrics are in general about appreciating the people in your life that make you happy to be alive, and are told through the eyes of a university student living off campus. I wrote this at the beginning of my junior year, a year in which I was always busy and always tired. Sometimes you get overwhelmed or weighed down by school or work or whatever, but if you can just step away from it all with some good friends occasionally, then often you may feel like you got your footing right again and you're ready to keep it pushing. That's what these lyrics are about.

Lyrics

Outside on the corner where I caught the bus

Thinking in my head 'it's colder than I thought it was...'

Sometimes life is like that, and you just quiver your lips

Whisper a wish, hoping someone might give us deliverance

Now deliver this message: think I can live with this mess if

You could just give a few seconds to come and sit in my presence and yes

It is so precious, yes, it is a blessing, next

I'll attempt to express it with every heavy breath

Cause just to make it worth it, and just to make it real

You always made it perfect, and that's the way I feel

Sometimes we think too much, and we lose control

But it's not what you know, no it's who you know

Days that will not end, I'm sure you've had them too

Wishing you're still in bed, and yet we have to move

This is what passion do, this is what passion does

And so my plan is to, start sending back the love.

Snowflakes fell like a gift from the skies and

Teardrops swelled when I lifted my eyes and

It was surely just brightness that had 'em form in me

While the storm in the streets was adorning the trees, and

It clothed each branch with a layer of the purest snow

And this miracle was a little less than a year ago

Now summer's almost over, the weather's growing colder,

Approaching frozen sojourns - A Minnesota soldier.

Backpack on my shoulder days are shorter I spend most alone

Still growing older feeling lonesome though I'm close to home

On the city bus dozing both eyes closing on the open road

My soul is folding though I'm holding on and so it goes

And sometimes when it's dark, I look up at the stars

Think about how small we are, but at least we have hearts

Getting passed by speeding cars, on these streets of ours

I want to be the cause, for someone's grief to pause

Cause just to make it worth it, and just to make it real

You always made it perfect, and that's the way I feel

Sometimes we think too much, and we lose control

But it's not what you know, no it's who you know

Days that will not end, I'm sure you've had them too

Wishing you're still in bed, and yet we have to move

This is what passion do, this is what passion does

And so my plan is to, start sending back the love.

And I can't even get emotional, cause even though this road is negotiable, this' the road I

Chose, going solo feeling so low and I don't know the things I'm supposed to know but

So, I know some brothas that I roll with, in the same role with the same goal and they stay focused.

So just forget saying that you gon' quit, its a long way to go I'ma need y'all to go with.

I got your back like the shirt tag side, no matter what it is yes sir that's right

Even when you act like a dirt bag I, done been there before for sure that's why

I keep no accounts of flaws, keep holding out for y'all

People is all we are, you know I'm down by law

Cause just to make it worth it, just to make it real

You always made it perfect, and that's the way I feel

Sometimes we think too much, and we lose control

But it's not what you know, no it's who you know

Days that will not end, I'm sure you've had them too

Wishing you're still in bed, and yet we have to move

This is what passion do, this is what passion does

And so my plan is to, start sending back the love.

Cause just to make it worth it, and just to make it real

You always made it perfect, and that's the way I feel

Sometimes we think too much, and we lose control

So this Solace is for all the fools we know.

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http://www.zophar.net/download_file/12209 - (40) "Great Fairy's Fountain"

Yeah, now I remember why I didn't panel this quickly when David PMed me about this. This was still mixed way WAY too hot. The high end was totally blistering.

I'm not chastising you, but you basically wasted time resubmitting this. Use the WIP forums and get some really good, specific 1-on-1 advice from at least 2 or 3 artists on how to properly mix this, because this sounds terrible. Do it this time. You could have someone else mix it for you, but you need to learn this for yourself so that you never send something like this again thinking it sounds fine.

I still love the arrangement. Once this is balanced, we can fast track it.

NO (resubmit)

[anosou]

The strings are still not very pretty, too long release, too loud and wide. No dealbreaker though. What IS a dealbreaker is that the mixing still needs work.

It's very loud, the drums have a LOT of high frequencies in the hi-hats and snare that kinda hurts your ears. Interesting is that the snare sounds wide and chorused, not a bad thing but certainly makes the track lose a bit of focus. Same with the hard vocal sounds like S and T. Overall, this is loud.. Also ending needs to fade out properly, always check your reverbtail!

Overall, it's just too loud! The arrangement is good enough but the production still needs improvement. #ocrwip and WIP-forums are your friend. Sorry, man.

NO(resubmit)

[Palpable]

Ouch, you guys weren't kidding. This really hurt my ears, and even turning down the volume down a bit, it's still mixed really hot. Take down those high frequencies! Strings take up more room than they need to, and they bury the vocals at times. In hip-hop, usually the vocals are very clear, front and center, so pulling those strings back would help.

I really like this arrangement. Of all the songs to rap over, this is one of the last I would expected, but it definitely works. There's a couple points where the melody gets creative and the new chords don't quite work, but the arrangement is fine as is. Just clear up those production points.

NO (resubmit)