Philemon Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Have been working on this for quite a LONG time... I had always noticed that there were no Vagrant Story remixes or arrangements, so I took it upon myself to do that, being a major fan of the series that I hope they bring back some point before I die. Anyway, I think this is good enough for initial peer critique at the very least. Anyway, here's the good stuff. Enjoy. Just right click and Save As. http://dodownload.filefront.com/7922782//83120844920efef5a8768e320522c7bb80d09d1bfd00e50d2c42c694ef1281f96aa4fd1d80e09183 I'm not sure if the song is called Truth or called Reminiscence, as I've seen it labeled both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philemon Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 Finished up with it, fairly certain I'm done with it, save for some tweaks here and there. I like the pacing, and the way it sounds, completely open to suggestion on changes in volume on certain parts. Link up top has been updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaris Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hey dude just wanted to say OMG finally a Vagrant Story mix. One of a couple of PS rpg's that don't have any mixes yet. The mix sounds awesome, although there are some key areas that really need improvement for this mix to reach it's full potential IMO. 1. The depth of the instrumentation doesn't match the emotional depth of the composition. It's ok for this to be minimalistic in areas but it needs some more depth later on. I'd go for some nice pad sounds. Stronger more evolving sounds than you got. Mix natural and electronic elements for some nice textures. 2. The transition at 1:02 felt really off. I think a build up into the pad sound would be good. Or the piano could fade out into some rhythms as the pad builds up to it's full volume. 3. The transition at 2:05 was even more sudden and awkward. Have everything fade out as the piano creeps in. 4. Beats or Big THICK pads. The solo piano throughout doesn't have enough composition to support an entire song. Get some nice laid back beats or pads in there to spice things up. I already said this once but the song defiantly needs more supporting elements and more ear candy. Some examples: http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01357/ http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR00631/# http://www.ocremix.org/remix/OCR01319/# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philemon Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 Great, thanks for the AWESOME feedback. Basically everything that you said, is exactly what I thought was wrong with it so far, but I couldn't figure out what. I'm going to try and get that fleshed out a lot more, ESPECIALLY at 1:02 and 2:05. I really noticed that, I love how it sounds, but that piano just isn't carrying it properly, just like you said. You didn't think the overall composition was too quiet, did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaris Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Well it was a lil quiet IMO. But it did fit the feel of the piece. With the added elements in there the song will be louder. Also the piano quality is a lil low. Try out this free reverb on some of the sounds to see if it give things a lil more natural feel. http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2802.html The winds at :36 could be panned a lil to the left. For some ear candy any wind ambient FX might go really well in some areas. Oh yeah big thing I missed before! The piano is goin solo a lot, well it is mainly coming out of the right side. It's ok if you got supported elements to balance out the frequencies but you don't. Keep those bass strings centered too. By any chance do you use Ableton Live? It's Resonator plugin used just slightly in some areas could really enhance the mood of the piece. EDIT: This is a new free pad/choir vst that just came out that is pretty cool. It might go well with the song. Beware notes in the lower octaves are key switches changing the synths settings on the fly. http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=176050&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philemon Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 No, not at all familiar with Ableton. Tell me more. And you're right, I wanted to put in a wind ambience, but I opted with a medium raining ambience, but I took it out because it sounded scratchy, no matter what the DB's were on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaris Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Live is another sequencer. I've found recently using the resonator FX plugin that is in Live can really add some very nice textures to sounds. As a host for quick work flow and audio manipulation it is awesome. It is very expensive though unless you have a copy of Live Lite you get from some buying some M-Audio hardware. Project5 as a DAW is very similar and much cheaper. It is only $99 now. There are so many DAW's out there but Live and Project5 have a very unique workflow that fits some people. For the wind if you got a stereo enhancer plugin use it on the wind or rain. Set the stereo width to max. That might help the ambient FX to sit better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philemon Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 Crap ton of fixes and revisions here, but it sounds great, at least to me. A lot of the "clicky" noises at the ends have been snipped, new instruments added, including a nice slow rainfall ambience. Just a whole new level of polish. Link up top has been updated, too. You should be able to just right click and save as now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philemon Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 And now I've run into a bit of a problem.... I have now found 3 different names for the song. Can anyone confirm the ACTUAL title of the original piece? So far I've seen it listed as Reminiscence, Remembrance, and Truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 No, not at all familiar with Ableton. Tell me more.And you're right, I wanted to put in a wind ambience, but I opted with a medium raining ambience, but I took it out because it sounded scratchy, no matter what the DB's were on it. http://www.vectormediasoftware.com/atmlitehome.htm Atmosphere lite; fantastic ambience sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philemon Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 VERY helpful, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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