Catullus

epic fail. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rondo decent song but not really my thing. Reminds me too much of menu music from something like a racing game. Would fit right into gran turismo 5 though. going to go compare to the source more thoughts to be edited in later.

Excellent remix, I especially love the opening and ending pieces of the song. I cant speak for anyone else but I love the distorted and dirty sound. It reminds me of http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01053/ zeal love the best corridor of time mix on the site as far as the distorted piano goes. There seems to be quite a depth of emotion going on with the piece and I believe that "cleaner" samples and better production value wouldn't necessarily enhance this. The song stands powerful on its own as it is. Ziwtra is easily my favorite mixer on the site and I imagine ill be chilling while listening to this song while surfing the web for years to come. Thank you ziwtra.

Alright I'll assume no one knows the answer but does anyone have any suggestions of where else might be a good place to ask/look into this? I cant really think of anything outside of the unlikely chance I can get ahold of one of the creators of these songs.

The Cube (movie) ending credits. They all have the same theme in common and Im wondering if anyone knows the backstory behind it. There has to be something and I figured since it features prominently in a few video games if anyone out there knows they would probably be on this website. Resident Evil 4: Serenity is famous as the save room music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz5zgLj03Ic The Cube is a movie that came out in 97' way before RE4 obviously http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miUU6vBBdwo you hear the same melody that is repeated in Serenity first a glimpse at 1:28 and then much more obvious at 2:20 Then there is battle drums on the Silent Hill Origins soundtrack. Where you hear the same melody at the very beginning and then again at the end at 2:04 It cant be coincidence. If i had to describe the melody it would be something like a peaceful whales song in space. Its probably in a few more things too, anyone know anything about the backstory? I would be indebted to you if you could shed any light behind this melody as Its been on my mind for a very long time now. At least a few years.

OMFG Ziwtra is back!!!! you have no idea how happy this has made me. Its been a couple years (too long) for my favorite remixer and when gaps like that happen you always wonder if there will be another song and then out of nowhere there are 3. It feels like its my birthday and Christmas and some other awesome holiday all happening at once. Xenogears is my favorite game and right there with Chrono Trigger as having the best videogame soundtrack of all time. Im excited to listen to the whole album though and im sure you guys all did an amazing job. THANK YOU ALL! Today is the best day of 2009 and its not even close

edit: never mind I found it through her youtube page also on http://www.vgmix.com/members/134/audio.php last but not least why isn't this up on ocr yet?

i dont get it:<

i like it, but then it pretty much is just like the source with a few minor tweaks. Hard to call this a remix actually >_< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izs0vlpBXTs&feature=PlayList&p=35B1CF64889ED92B&playnext=1&index=27 pretty bad source material but it gets the idea across, I have the real mp3 of it but I dont want to share it as that would be against a few laws The mp3 I have FFX-2 Eternity - Memory of Lightwaves\02 - Besaid.mp3 kinda show that this mix is not original enough to really qualify. I dont think it will passed unless a lot more is shown. That said I like what Zigan has done so far but it needs more. More interpretation that is to make it differentiate from the original.

you can try to derail this topic all you want and try to turn it into a flame war if you like. You wont succeed but feel free to try anyway. I think the topic has successfully concluded anyway so do as you like.

much better *applauds* if you have any qualms about how I insulted you, you only have yourself to blame. Personally I thought it was rather tame considering your original post. Btw you shouldn't be ripping anyone else on their English. Mine is far superior to yours. But hey lets not play this game... you are obviously not qualified to judge.

honestly your post hardly deserves a response as you didnt seem to read the thread and your post is very low brow. That said I had an issue with #1 and perhaps it also needs clarifying. perhaps you shouldnt take my word for it then When I said that he had a vested interest in seeing it not passed thats exactly how I interpreted his posts. He seemed to be posting repeatedly to bias other judges towards his point of view and thus not get it passed. Personally I was assuming that he was doing it to prove himself right however that was an assumption on my part and one which I believe even still to be right.That said I think i sufficiently proved he was lobbying to get the track to receive a NO vote and you aren't up to the task to proving me wrong on this sorry. Idealistically and unrealistically speaking the judges should be listening to this track and voting on its own merits based on what THEY thought rather than what another judge felt. Sure of course there is going to be some influencing involved, but thats a very very fine line. When it gets to the point of a judge campaigning for or against a track its crossed it. When you say things like it can very easily be construed that he respects vig and lost respect for those voting yes as if they dont know what they are doing. Oh wait he used a smiley face never mind >_>Whether thats fair or not, is not the point. There really should be no place for comments like that in my mind and I am rather uncompromising on this point. Thank you for playing come again soon!

lol i got to admit i love that quote... its very ironic in of itself.

Well I realize that this thread has taken a very lighthearted turn and although it pains me to take it away from that, I dont want to have missed my chance to have a serious response to some of the things that were said earlier on. I do apologize for this First of all BGC, if this is a waste of your very busy time you dont have to respond and while I fully realize my advice is completely unsolicited there are a couple of things I just cant let you get away with and perhaps thats a sign of my own immaturity (sorry) I assure you that while its safe for me to assume you will take this entire post as a personal attack that is not the intention I obviously had no problem with your original post and even said so, its pretty much every single post after that at issue. First and foremost you cannot say w/e you like and then put a smiley face afterwards and think that its okay. It just doesnt fly in the real world sorry. Its akin to saying something mean and being like Just Kidding haha you cant be mad because I said just kidding.Random Example of this and its not directed towards anyone and of course for examples purpose it is an extreme however its just to demonstrate the absurdity While haha funny its just completely immature to think that because you put a its okay and wont hurt anyones feelings or make you sound like a dick.Try it in real life, next time your girlfriend makes you some food tell her it tastes like shit but then say haha just kidding... im sure she will appreciate that! who wouldn't? Ok moving on now I'll forgive your apparent defensive mechanism as I understand why you said it... but the thing is, I understood your analogy quite well thank you. The problem is that it was a completely immature analogy and offensive... just because the analogy works isn't the problem, the fact that its INCREDIBLY F***ING OFFENSIVE is the problem. Like I said you wouldn't want someone making that analogy on one of your mixes and I know that for a fact just from reading a couple of your posts.There absolutely had to be a better way to get your analogy across that doesn't make you look like a jackass... at least I hope so anyway. Now I realize that can be construed as an insult let me assure you that its not meant as one. I absolutely know very little about you personally, however if I or some random person read that thread which this topic is based, it would be hard for someone not to think wow that guy is a jackass. Its just the natural reaction. I dont think you are a jackass however my initial reaction to reading that particular thread would bias me in that direction. So in the future if you wish for the random forum goer not to think wow that guy is a jackass, I suggest you maturely take an objective look in the mirror, reread that thread like you are reading it for the first time and its someone else posting those things and then actually look objectively at what was said. Maybe after all that you still dont have a problem with it, but at the very least hopefully you can see WHY someone else who read that thread would have a problem with it. Well first let me apologize if my original post was overly any of those things, it was in the heat of the moment and I was upset enough to rant that long so it probably did come off slightly too harsh (but perhaps my original post also serves as a demonstration and perfect example of why we all should be careful with our words:<), the original intention was and still is that we should treat others with respect. My creed is more along the lines of if respect is given respect is shown but its more or less the same thing. However much like Dhsu eloquently put it you shouldn't be judging mixes or posting if you are having a bad day, go eat some ice cream and go to your happy place instead (or w/e works for you) If you dont have time for it dont do it, simple there really isnt any need to force yourself to do something that you dont HAVE to do, especially if its going to cause you to be rude to someone who honestly seems to be a perfectly nice individual from what Ive seen of him. Its undeserved and hopefully someday you will see that there is just absolutely no excuse for it whatsoever no matter what. By you having a bad day and taking it out on someone else, they are now having a bad day too... I think you can see how that goes. You really shouldn't, thats a very immature life view to enjoy when someone else is getting insulted. I can completely understand why its interesting to see someone get ripped on and what not and simon makes millions doing so. However I cannot believe that DJ Pretzel wants his judges ripping on peoples tracks so that the threads are more amusing to read. Maybe Im wrong but I seriously dont think that he created this great site so something like that could happen. I dont think that was your intent either, however intentionally or not that was the point of this thread... to think more carefully about what was said so that people weren't offended intentionally or not especially since it was unwarranted because I have this track and I know its good. If the chanting is that bad in your opinion fine, take away those few seconds and even you know the rest of the track is very good. Well in all honesty there might not need to be one, but that doesn't really mean that you get a Free Pass to do whatever you want either which is what you seem to imply. I agree with Dhsu that it doesn't really mean anything.Summation time. Okay look I dont expect you to take this unsolicited advice and start pissing rainbows or whatever analogy you want to use That said if you take just one thing from it, try to be more polite. Even you have to agree that simply the act of trying to be more polite in your responses even just a little would be a good thing. Also I will say it again, if you are having a bad day or are stressed for time perhaps avoid the judges forum? Take care

i like your idea a lot but you need to turn the wind sound effects DOWN and turn the Guitars WAY up... this song could rock a lot harder than it does. Id also rec doing something about the drums... they are generic, like really generic. I would replace them and go with some harder guitar riffs and add some more bass. You do have something good to build on though, if nothing else fix the drums. edit: id look at what sixto sounds does as far as guitar and drums to get a better idea of what would make this song awesome. No im not suggesting about ripping off his style but it certainly wouldn't be a bad place to start as an example at all. The instruments do get very jumbled in the middle of the track and you really could use more separation as well... you could feel free to cut out the drums at several points if you want to highlight the guitar or bass etc. 1:48 ~ 2:16 and beyond is a good example of the clutter, the guitar sounds okay in that part but the drums makes it sound much worse until you drop it at 2:40 then you bring it back right after that and you can see it just ruins it before you drop it again and go with a guitar solo and some bass which again sounds good. Essentially you have some right ideas but then the drums really ruin it for me. I hope that helps you

Well to continue debate on this particular point, is there anything that should be done to try to prevent issues like this in the future? You said you saw the same issues as I when you read it as for it being perceived as too harsh and as we know perception = reality or it might as well anyway. I guess what im getting at is there anything that can be done to prevent stuff like this on OCR's end? No im not suggesting a sensitivity class but certainly it wouldn't hurt for judges to be more aware of the issue and to consider how their comments might look before they post them. That can only be a good thing right?