gwilendiel

And how do you calibrate your own? I've been wondering this lately. I know you can only do so much, and if somebody has messed up EQ preferences on their system then they won't hear things the same way but... What should you shoot for when calibrating your own system for production, so you know what the average listener will hear? I'm having this issue lately, like stuff sounds good on my headphones or speakers but may sound bad on somebody elses. I'm at my dads at the moment and he's got these studio headphones, but his EQ is kind of jacked up... I tried one of my songs and was like "holy smokes that's bad!" But then I tried other songs from other people and they too were bad... except a couple songs still sound good (but I can still tell the EQ is out of whack) So.. anyway

I used to do this a LOT when I was into dub and slicing/cutting... in my tracker days. It's really fun and useful. And I wouldn't just dig up records but like recordings of shows and stuff. Like in one song I had samples from the Flintstones 'chipmunked' and a reversed sound of some sort of cars going by on a race track. Have also used things like the sound of glass breaking or camera mechanisms operating for percussion. Wish I still had all my stuff I used... that was loads of fun, years ago sadly.

What it looks like and what it is are two different things, and I was willing to take the risk since the discussion seems unpopular to begin with.

Please don't respond if you expect me to shut up.... Just saying. If I'm already not being rational I'm surely not going to be quiet if you give me more ammunition.

I went back and did some cleanup. If thread integrity is the issue, I'd hope others don't mind doing the same. Thank you!

Wish I could have done that. O.O For me it was picking up a music book on my dad's piano when I was about 8, and looking through his cheat card for reading music for piano and thinking '2+2=4'... I then taught myself to play Für Elise over the course of a couple months (hey, I was 8 and teaching myself heh) Now I'm 30..ish. And haven't stopped since. Anyway... just felt like making an anecdote there.

I appreciate the humor and sentiment, but I think it best I err on the side of caution from now on. And I'm surprised I'm not banned anyway.

Good points! When I can get around to it I'll give it another listen if you want. Right now my ears are tired too, as you rightly explained above.... so some times it's hard to want to be accurate when my own ears are already practically bleeding from working on my own stuff like they were when I wrote that haha. but anyway

Will do! [too short]

Haha... well normally I am friendly... I'm hardcore about what I believe in... so that may make me abrasive, and stubborn to admit when I'm wrong... But I also care about people a lot too and when I do spiteful things I feel bad about it. I'd definitely fight for my friends or something I believe in but I just need my zeal to be pointed in the right direction to err... avoid collateral damage I guess..

Oh well. It wasn't true anyway... (the trolling part) I doubt I could be that cunning... >.<

And and also it has trolls who know how to hook somebody and make them stick up for the troll and cause a completely unrelated fight and thread derail. How ya like me now, smartass?

That made me laugh... thanks! I needed it! and so did:

Heh I was just reading back and seeing posts I missed... I totally can see why I looked so bad now... >.< I wasn't ignoring people, I just honestly didn't see some posts. I can be an incredibly fast reader when I'm passionate about something and I'm really not used to using forums very often where the content keeps changing all the time. Anyway... sorry to post again, just felt the need to say that...

Good points, and worth mentioning... And honestly you have taught me something. Though also it's funny - it's like people assumed they were the only musicians here EXCEPT for me... I've wondered about these things myself since I've considered SELLING music. Imagine that! Anyway.

Dark and José, you are right... I think the real REAL problem is I believe I am clear when I'm about as transparent as mud.... then I wonder why ppl are yelling at me for saying things I never really wanted to say in the first place... then I get combative but it's my own fault. >.< Anyway... I think this should be locked.. and I apologize again... seriously.

Atari thought that too. In fact I think I recall somebody from Atari in the old days saying 'if you throw enough crap at a wall, some is bound to stick' Well... just see what happened to Atari So yeah. It works as a business practice. In some cases it would be arguably the best I suppose, but it's still a gamble and many developers and publishers have been burned by that gamble, especially when a competitor comes along and takes the gloves off, so to speak.

Yeah... you're right... I get upset too much. I'm thinking more about principal than practice... hate to say it but maybe it's because I'm an excitable female... I dunno

Let me put it this way. I love music. Music is my life pretty much... and I am literally in tears right now... I simply think it should be more than only a product. I have no problem with an honest musician making honest money... I never did... but it actually hurts me to see record labels that rob artists, or CERTAIN artists who have no interest in the people they are sold to... and especially those who don't even like their own fans or expect to be worshiped or pampered excessively... Even some MUSICIANS dislike this crap. Not every musician... but there are plenty of songs about selling out. Some of them by star artists, like Blues Traveller. I think they are good because at least they are somewhat honest! Yeah, they make a living.... and I have bought their music because I feel they try to be honest along with making money... there's nothing wrong with that. And the way things are is what makes all this possible.. they get away with this because there is nothing really stopping them.... Anyway...

It should be obvious that if it doesn't apply to you then it isn't about you. Thats what the word 'who' is for. Learn to read instead of hanging on to what you already thought I say before I say it.

No it doesn't supercede the right of the creator. The creator can take whatever he wants and the consumer can choose to accept it or not. But without the consumer there is no creator. Music fans are not a goddamn money farm. I'm sick of musicians who think they are god's gift to the earth and disrespect the people who PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLES. You can't eat music, that's for sure. And I'm sick of people who want to dive into the music industry to make millions and treat consumers like cattle.

I never said that. You said it, other people said it BUT NOT FUCKING ONCE DID I SAY IT! EVER! And I don't buy their shit! And I don't steal it either! So what's your problem that I have an ideal?? ARE YOU AFRAID I COULD BE RIGHT IN SOME WAY?? Or do you just not like the fact that I have a backbone and am not afraid to take a view that may be wildly unpopular and STICK TO IT? You have no fucking clue what I know or what I do. Or who I have talked to, or what I have talked to them about.

No. No I do not. You (and most people) are not that special to me. If I did however, and I needed to pay you, I would pay YOU. Not Bob or Fred or Corporation X. If I was particularly interested, I'd likely pay more than the going rate. That's if I want it. And I know what you meant, just saying.

I said musicians should be compensated. Like in my second post I think. So don't try to make it look like I want something for free, or that I'm "admitting I'm wrong" either because I said it damn early.