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    Silent Hill Discussion

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    Anyone here read the SIlent Hill: Dying Inside comics? I've just finished reading them myself. The artwork, done by Ben Templesmith, who did 30 Days of Night, works well for the Silent Hill universe, in my opinion. I wouldn't say it's a bad comic book adaptation, but it isn't fully accurate, and it all feels rushed near the end. It's also very "comic-book" too, as it features substantial amounts of gunplay. One of it's major flaws though is it's lack of subtlety, something which made the games great, as well as truly introspective humanity. It also becomes kind of campy once the whole gothic punk teenager crowd is involved, but overall, I'd say it's decent and doesn't rape the franchise.

    Silent Hill Discussion

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    On the suicidal stripper theory and coming back from the dead:

    I'm taking the easy way out on this one, but it could be all considered a matter of perspective. Remember the holes James jumps through? Who's too say the fall wouldn't kill him (And I still like reffering to that Silent Hill ending. Hell would truly be not realising that you're dead already. Think about how big a mind-fuck it would be to wake up one day, faced by indescribable monstrosities when in fact you died the night before)? Essentially, the town is one huge mind fuck. We never actually see Maria getting stabbed by Pyramid Head's spear during the hospital chase scene (Remember, you get game over if she does die during the chase). As far as I recall, the only moment where you actually witness her death is near the end, with the two Pyramid Heads.

    Finally, I don't think the demon in sheep's clothing theory works. In one ending, you actually face off Mary, not Maria. And we already established that Maria dies by the hand of the two Pyramid Heads.

    Just my opinion, but I think that considering Maria as a normal person, not a monster, but who's being controlled and manipulated by the town to make James suffer is far more entertaining and amusing. Kind of adds to the humanity of it all. It's very possible that Maria loses it, hence the dialogue in the labyrinth, thanks to the towns influence (Remember, there too, you don't witness her die. You only find the body later). If anything, one thing that has to be known due to the way how monsters are perceived differently from person to person is that nothing should be taken at face value.

    Silent Hill Discussion

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    Wasn't it hinted at some stage that Eddie was being chased by the police, which is why he left his own town and hid in Silent Hill? I need to see that final Eddie/James dialogue again...

    (Pyramid Head should have been in the PS2 version of Soul Calibur 2, damn it!)

    Silent Hill Discussion

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    Or maybe Maria did shoot herself, then the town "absorbed" her essence to it's own ends.

    In the ending she doesnt shoot herself, she throws the revolver over the wall where you meet Laura

    Think of it this way...

    In SH1, one of the endings implies that you died and went to Hell. Maybe, in a similiar fashion, she did shoot herself and couldn't "remember", much like the implied car accident in SH1. As such, she is trapped in her own personal Hell, and James is a redemption of sorts, which is why she is pushed to gain his acceptance.

    Silent Hill Discussion

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    SPOILER

    I can't help but wondering about one thing... In SH3, there's a scene in a library where Vincent meets Heather and tells her this :

    Vincent : You're the worst person in this room. You come here and enjoy spilling their blood and listening to them cry out. You feel excited when you step on them and snuff out their lives

    Heather : Are you talking about the monsters ?

    Vincent : Monsters ? They looked like monsters to you ?

    **Heather is shocked**

    Vincent : Don't worry. It's just a joke... (insane smile)

    Do you think he was really joking ???

    O_o°

    That part REALLY pissed me off! There I was thinking that maybe they'd insert some HUGE moral quandry in the SH series, really making us question what we were doing, but no, it's all a fucking joke. :roll:

    Talk about smothered hopes..

    Silent Hill Discussion

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    oh I understand WHY she turns into a floaty woman in a box...

    Its just WHY a floaty woman in a box? Why not something like the Goddess in SH1?

    As for the reason behind her shape when she transforms into a daemon:

    She looks like the hanged men that Pyramid Heads have. Whether it's Mary or Maria, both of them are tortured by the town. It seems to me that it was a bizzarre competitive situation were either Mary or Maria would be free, and that depended on James' judgement. Obviously, the loser gets pissed, reveals her true tortured form that the town caused and fights back.

    Silent Hill Discussion

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    But why does she turn into a big floaty woman in a box!?

    It still makes no sense

    Because in the endings were you face Maria rather than Mary, well, Maria's pissed off. James confesses his sins and accepts them, but Maria doesn't see it that way, because she feels that James is still lying (i.e. Protecting Mary, the representation of what James wanted in Maria rather than what he actually had).

    As for when you face Mary, James finally sees the truth and realises that he wasn't facing reality. His illusions made him kill Mary, because she wasn't what he wanted. He was too scared to face the truth. The shock is too great for him so he commits suicide. I feel that the In Water ending is the best, myself.

    As for the reason behind her shape when she transforms into a daemon:

    She looks like the hanged men that Pyramid Heads have. Whether it's Mary or Maria, both of them are tortured by the town. It seems to me that it was a bizzarre competitive situation were either Mary or Maria would be free, and that depended on James' judgement. Obviously, the loser gets pissed, reveals her true tortured form that the town caused and fights back.

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