Native Jovian

Forgive me for not being up on all the cool gamer news, but wasn't E3 supposed to have been shut down forever a few years ago?

I learned something new today!

Well there you have it then.

The original Metal Gear isn't canon? But that's when Solid Snake fights (and defeats) Big Boss in Outer Heaven, right? They go all through that in the Solid games, why would it be noncanon?

There were only three in the first game. Not counting Mewtwo because he wasn't lord of nature or whatever but just a science project. But yeah, they lost me entirely after that.

Was EGM a decent magazine? I haven't subscribed to a gaming magazine since I let my Nintendo Power lapse in like 2000. I might have to pick up some EGMs if it's coming back though...

And then all the way to 98% complete in less than four months!

Eleven? Fuck, I've been lost completely ever since there were more than three.

That depends. Do you want things to make sense, or do you want to experience the clusterfuck as the rest of us who've been following the series since the original Metal Gear Solid did? If you want to actually make some sense out of the story, play it Metal Gear Solid 3, Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid 2, then Metal Gear Solid 4. If you want to get the WTFery the rest of us did, then play them in order. Also note that each game (except MGS4) has an upgraded rereleased version. MGS1 has Twin Snakes (for the Gamecube instead of PS1), MGS2 has Substance, MGS3 has Subsistence. There's basically no reason not to go for the upgrade except that the original versions are probably cheaper. Substance/Subsistence are relatively minor tweaks, but Twin Snakes completely upgrades the engine and adds in cutscenes and stuff. I have no idea where Portable Ops or Acid or any of the spinoffs fit into the timeline, but the original Metal Gear (and the noncanon Metal Gear 2: Snake's Revenge) are between MGS3 and MGS1. MGS1 does a pretty decent job of recapping the important bits, though.

I don't think you know what the word "sidequest" even means.

I foresee great things for this thread thanks to HoboKa.

Wait did you just make one post replying to me and then I replied to that and then you made another post replying to my original one? Was that an editfail, or what? Also the point is that every game ever has subgoals built into its main quest, so complaining that the game doesn't let you go directly from point A (beginning of game) to point Z (killing final boss) without first going through points B-Y is stupid.

I know right. That's like not even the first quarter of the game.

Zelda games are nothing but boring sidequest after boring sidequest. If you took out all of the pointless missions, the game wouldn't be half as long. Let me give you an example. The quest is to go save Hyrule from Gannondorf. But first you need to leave the forest you live in. You try to go talk to the magic tree that rules the forest but some guy won't let you because you don't have a sword and shield, so you go find money and buy a shield. When you can't figure out a way to get a sword, some random person tells you that there's one hidden in the forest somewhere. Yey! But he doesn't know where. First you need to go wander around the forest and find it, and when you do you can finally go see the magic tree and ask him if you can leave the forest. The tree says yes, but before you can go, he a tells you about a bad man who cursed him and now he's dying. So you need to go inside the magic tree and fight the monsters to break the curse. Now you have permission to leave the forest. You make your way across Hyrule Field to Hyrule Castle Town but you can't see Zelda because of all the guards and now you need some means to sneak inside. So you look around the grounds for a way to do so. But the only way in is blocked by a fat sleeping guy and you can't just wake him up for some reason. So the only way to wake him up is to first get a chicken egg from his daughter and make it hatch and crow at the fat guy because she's too much of a wuss to go and sneak in on her own. Now we can wake him up. But the egg hasn't hatched yet. So we then need to wait around for a while with the egg in our inventory so it'll hatch. But once you wake the fat guy up and finally get inside the castle there are even more guards inside, so you have to sneak through the gardens. Now you can talk to Zelda and find out how to fight Ganondorf. *phew*

Well, that's sort of my point. The events themselves are pretty straight forward (even if it's easy to get bogged down in the details), but the way they're presented (out of order and through multiple layers of bullshit and general WTFery) make the entire thing just a giant clusterfuck. Ironic as hell for the whole "a strong man makes his own destiny" thing, the entire Metal Gear franchise is basically about the main character getting lead around by the nose by someone smarter, more powerful, and better connected than he is. And half the time, once they figure that out, they go ahead and do what the other guy wants them to anyway.

Why you gotta hate? Why can't you love instead? "I love people that realize that Robo's Theme isn't actually ripped off of Never Gonna Give You Up because the chords are different and it's only the first few notes that are the same."

True. In the gross "stuff happens at this point" sense, it's not all that bad. But in the sense of who's working for who when, why, and knowingly or not, whether they're a double (or triple, or in at least one case quadruple) agent, what they're trying to do at the time, whether that's just a screen for something else, what actually happens as a result, etc etc etc, it's a nightmare. Everything is covered in at least four layers of bullshit at all times, and digging through it is enough to drive strong men mad.

That's because the Metal Gear Solid timeline is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. Anyone who actually claims to understand it has either spent a significant portion of their life wrapping their head around the insanity, or is lying. Or did you just mean the storyline of Metal Gear 2?

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So someone who's actually played all the games run down the legendaries for me. Someone told me that the legendaries, far from the water/fire/lightning of the original trio, have now been credited with creating things like the sky, or time, or the universe itself. Wut?

Dan Brown is the new Michael Crichton. He writes terrible books specifically intended to be turned into movies. Brown writes about religion while Crichton wrote about science; both murder their subject material in order to warp it into something remotely interesting.

It depends entirely on you. Well, it also depends on the classes you're taking, but mostly on you. You have to decide what you want to do with your time. If music is important to you, then make time for it. Obviously class and work takes a lot of time, but whether you spend an hour on homework to get a B or three hours to get an A+ is completely up to you. After your homework's finished, would you rather do something musical or go play video games with your friends? If work is taking all your time, especially freshman year, then you're taking too heavy a course load. It may turn out that you have less free time and so don't end up doing anything with music -- but understand that it's your choice how you spend your time. Edit -- Goddamn, triple ninja'd. Impressive, OCR. You win this round...

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha When they stop making him money and not a moment before, so basically never.

Did you honestly expect anything else from this movie?

Well it is a pretty good answer.