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Alright so I need some help once again from all you hardware gurus around here. Here is something I prices out pretty quickly.

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55299

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA1366 DDR3 CrossFireX SLI 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 PCI USB 3.0 Motherboard

Usually ships in 1-2 business days.

$219.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=39590

Intel Core i7 950 Quad Core Processor LGA1366 3.06GHZ Bloomfield 8MB LGA1366 4.8GT/S

Usually ships in 1-2 business days.

$309.98

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=34802&promoid=1270

Corsair XMS3 Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 8-8-8-24 Core i7 Memory Kit

Usually ships in 1-2 business days.

(X2) = $257.66

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57430

OCZ Vertex 2 80GB Sandforce 2.5IN SATA2 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD

$129.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49591&promoid=1270

Western Digital WD20EARS Caviar Green 2TB SATA2 3Gbps 64MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM

Usually ships in 1-2 business days.

$79.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=56262

XFX Radeon HD 6870 900MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI 2x Mini Display Port PCI-E Vide *IR-$20*

Usually ships in 1-2 business days.

$229.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=56380

ASUS VE228H 21.5IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1080 LED Backlit 5ms 10M:1DC HDMI DVI-D VGA

Usually ships in 1-2 business days.

Add EXPRESS COVERAGE What's this? ($15.50)

(X2) = $309.98

YOUR TOTAL $1,537.58

I'm looking to know if you guys know if any of this is incompatible, or if you guys know any better setups/deals that I should be looking at.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks :D

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I've read around (don't count on me, though) that Caviar Green drives are slower (something about eco friendly power consumption). If you're using that for sample streaming, I'd suggest Caviar Black.

Or if you don't mind $3000 more, get a nice terabyte SSD. :D

Also, power supply? I don't think a random 400 watt can pull the Core i7 and the Radeon HD 6870.

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hmm I totally forgot about a power supply. Oops XD. Ill look in to the caviar blacks. Might grab a 120 or so GB hd for the OS, and just use a caviar black for storage and installations. How much do you think I need in a power supply? 800? Im kinda noob when it comes to this hardware stuff XD

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Caviar Blacks have higher RPM which means data is read and written faster. So I definitely recommend it if this computer is going to be compiling files for music which I imagine takes quite some time.

Not sure what the exact plans are to build this computer, but prophetik here at OCR builds computers for a small fee. He'll also probably drop in this topic eventually to give his feedback about your hardware setup.

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How much does your friend want to spend, exactly, and what sort of things will he be doing with the system? I ask, because you could shave at least $500 dollars off of that system and still have a good machine for most music purposes.

EDIT: Didn't see that you had $300 in monitors on there, so maybe not $500. The possibilities I was talking about specifically were that you could go with an i7 8xx chip which would let you buy a cheaper motherboard, you could cut the RAM from 12 to 8 GB, you could replace the SSD with a regular disk drive (actually, I'd do this regardless because 80 GB is really too small to be your only sample drive), and you could replace the video card with a bargain-basement model. Dual monitors is a good idea, though. Don't forget the power supply, the case, the DVD drive, and (if needed) the operating system and soundcard/audio interface.

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Any specific reason for the expensive graphics card? Unless they're gaming of course.

With my recent build, I went budget-friendly and got an AMD mobo with an integrated radeon graphics card. Since I use the computer primarily for music, it's not a big deal. Still, it can handle a game like Team Fortress 2 with decent graphics settings.

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hmm well I guess I could go down on the GFX card. The idea i that this would also be a general/gaming computer. As far as going from 12 GB ram to 8 GB. if I put 8 in there then it will be dual channel instead of tripple channel. So 12 or 6 would be ideal.

The SSD wouldnt be for the samples. The SSD would be for the OS to give the computer an overall speedup (sure as hell helped my computer)

DVD drives are cheap, so im not really calculating that. Audio interface will come later, and I guess I should add an OS in there.

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EDIT: Didn't see that you had $300 in monitors on there, so maybe not $500. The possibilities I was talking about specifically were that you could go with an i7 8xx chip which would let you buy a cheaper motherboard, you could cut the RAM from 12 to 8 GB, you could replace the SSD with a regular disk drive (actually, I'd do this regardless because 80 GB is really too small to be your only sample drive), and you could replace the video card with a bargain-basement model. Dual monitors is a good idea, though. Don't forget the power supply, the case, the DVD drive, and (if needed) the operating system and soundcard/audio interface.

I think he wanted the SSD as a boot drive. Using an SSD as a samples drive would be incredibly lightning fast, but would cost an arm and a leg.

Also, unless he's recording, he should do fine with integrated audio and ASIO4ALL. It's not like he needs to hardware I/O if he only uses software.

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yeah my friend doesn't really have anything to record, so an interface isn't the biggest deal at the moment. ASIO4ALL ftw :P

Im gonna modify the list soonish and let you guys know. Also looking to get prophetik up in this piece at some point. He helped me out quite a bit last time I built a computer.

Thanks for all the suggestions so far btw

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EDIT: Showed 2 setups to my friend. He likes this one, but might want to edit it a little bit

Setup 1: High End

- Sweet Mother Board

- Sweet CPU

- 12 GB Triple Channel Ram

- 120GB SSD Harddrive for OS Speedup

- 2 TB Harddrive for data/etc

- Radeon HD 6870 Sweet ass gfx card for games/dual monitor support

- 2X 21.5 Inch Widescreen LCD Monitors

- 650 Watt Corsair PowerSupply

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55299

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA1366 DDR3 CrossFireX SLI 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 PCI USB 3.0 Motherboard

$219.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=39590

Intel Core i7 950 Quad Core Processor LGA1366 3.06GHZ Bloomfield 8MB LGA1366 4.8GT/S

$309.98

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...2&promoid=1270

Corsair XMS3 Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 8-8-8-24 Core i7 Memory Kit

(X2 for 12GB) = $257.66

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53309

OCZ Vertex 2 Extended Sandforce 120GB 2.5IN SATA2 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD

$236.34

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=42775

Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB SATA2 7200RPM 3.6MS 64MB 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM

$169.98

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=56262

XFX Radeon HD 6870 900MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI 2x Mini Display Port PCI-E Vide *IR-$20*

$229.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=56380

ASUS VE228H 21.5IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1080 LED Backlit 5ms 10M:1DC HDMI DVI-D VGA

$154.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42532

Corsair Professional HX650W 650W ATX 12V 52A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan

$149.99

Total: $1,783.91 + Case + Tax + Shipping ~ $1,900 - $2,000 (My assumption)

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EDIT: Showed 2 setups to my friend. He likes this one, but might want to edit it a little bit

Setup 1: High End

- Sweet Mother Board

- Sweet CPU

- 12 GB Triple Channel Ram

- 120GB SSD Harddrive for OS Speedup

- 2 TB Harddrive for data/etc

- Radeon HD 6870 Sweet ass gfx card for games/dual monitor support

- 2X 21.5 Inch Widescreen LCD Monitors

- 650 Watt Corsair PowerSupply

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55299

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA1366 DDR3 CrossFireX SLI 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 PCI USB 3.0 Motherboard

$219.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=39590

Intel Core i7 950 Quad Core Processor LGA1366 3.06GHZ Bloomfield 8MB LGA1366 4.8GT/S

$309.98

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...2&promoid=1270

Corsair XMS3 Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 8-8-8-24 Core i7 Memory Kit

(X2 for 12GB) = $257.66

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53309

OCZ Vertex 2 Extended Sandforce 120GB 2.5IN SATA2 Solid State Disk Flash Drive SSD

$236.34

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=42775

Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB SATA2 7200RPM 3.6MS 64MB 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM

$169.98

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=56262

XFX Radeon HD 6870 900MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI 2x Mini Display Port PCI-E Vide *IR-$20*

$229.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=56380

ASUS VE228H 21.5IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1080 LED Backlit 5ms 10M:1DC HDMI DVI-D VGA

$154.99

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42532

Corsair Professional HX650W 650W ATX 12V 52A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan

$149.99

Total: $1,783.91 + Case + Tax + Shipping ~ $1,900 - $2,000 (My assumption)

You can DEFINITELY trim a LOT of the price on this:

-Instead of 12 GB, you can get an 8 GB with a dif. mobo (see next point) instead for a bit less than $100.

-Like someone said before (too lazy to open a new tab and see who), get a Core i7 8xx processor and an LGA 1156 motherboard instead. This could save you around $100.

-That power supply is definitely two times more than you need to pay for one. You can get this one for less than half the price. The reviews are mixed, but it's up to you.

-Get a GTX 460 nVidia graphics card instead; it's cheaper and videos online show it can pull Star Craft II at highest settings. Sure Starcraft II might be flexible in graphics, but it shows the 460 isn't a joke either. :P If you get the 768 MB version, you can get it for less than $150.

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hmm well I think we want to keep the crazy amount of ram/Mobo/GFX card. As it stands, he is fine with the price. As for power supply a cheaper one that still powers everything would be ideal. Im trying to find everything on ncix, as thats probably where I will order from. Unless I can get it all at newegg for cheaper or something.

Edit: Decided to price everything out at newegg.ca (since we are in canada), and it looks like their stuff is cheaper in general. Here is the revised list:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341040&cm_re=OCZ_StealthXstream_II-_-17-341-040-_-Product

OCZ StealthXstream II OCZ700SXS2 700W ATX12V v2.2/ EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Power Supply

$99.99

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665&Tpk=Sabertooth%20X58%20LGA1366

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

$209.99

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211&cm_re=Intel_Core_i7_950_Quad_Core-_-19-115-211-_-Product

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950

$279.99

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145224&Tpk=TR3X6G1600C8D

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8D

$129.99, X2 = $259.98

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227590&cm_re=120_GB_SSD-_-20-227-590-_-Product

OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX120G 3.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

$229.00

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792&cm_re=2TB_Caviar_Black-_-22-136-792-_-Product

Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

$169.99

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102913&cm_re=Radeon_HD_6870-_-14-102-913-_-Product

SAPPHIRE 100314-2SR Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

$219.99

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236100

Asus VE228H 21.5" Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers ASCR 10,000,000:1

$159.99

Total: $1,628.92 + Shipping ($43.57) + Tax ($83.63) = $1,756.12 + Case (Approx: $150) = $1,900.00 Approximately

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hmm well I think we want to keep the crazy amount of ram/Mobo/GFX card. As it stands, he is fine with the price. As for power supply a cheaper one that still powers everything would be ideal. Im trying to find everything on ncix, as thats probably where I will order from. Unless I can get it all at newegg for cheaper or something.

Edit: Decided to price everything out at newegg.ca (since we are in canada), and it looks like their stuff is cheaper in general. Here is the revised list:

[COMPUTER STUFF]

Total: $1,628.92 + Shipping ($43.57) + Tax ($83.63) = $1,756.12 + Case (Approx: $150) = $1,900.00 Approximately

You can get the Cooler Master Storm Scout Case AND an included 700 watt power supply for 169.98 (with shipping). I think it's a better deal than your $100 power supply plus a $150 case. :/

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119235&cm_re=storm_scout-_-11-119-235-_-Product

You can also trim that RAM by almost half the price with the same 6 GB and 1600 Mhz.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225&cm_re=G._SKILL-_-20-231-225-_-Product

Other than disagreeing with your largely expensive Motherboard/CPU/GPU combo, I think you should be good to go afterwards.

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You can DEFINITELY trim a LOT of the price on this:

-That power supply is definitely two times more than you need to pay for one. You can get this one for less than half the price. The reviews are mixed, but it's up to you.

Please don't buy this PSU :(. I owned it's predecessor, the StealthXstream I or whatever and it blew out on me, ruining some of my other components. I simply don't trust OCZ PSU quality - just read the reviews.

From personal experience, you get what you paid for with power supplies. Wattage output is definitely not the only thing you should be looking at when purchasing one - it's only the starting point. You also need to consider things like efficiency level & brand quality.

Sure, you can go with a cheap brand with higher wattage output, but don't be surprised when it soon blows out on you and even takes other components (like the motherboard) with it. This has happened to me twice and I've learned from my mistake.

Personally, on my last "budget" build, I also went with a 650W Corsair. They're simply the best brand out there & have a good reputation for using high quality Japanese-made capacitors.

I mean, it's up to you, but if I was to go cheap on something, it wouldn't be the PSU.

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This is a good point. Maybe I'll go back to that corsair I picked out earlier.

Neblix: I was making large assumptions about the case, im not sure how much it actually is. As for my mobo/gpu/cpu choice. Why do you think its bad? You did see the part about it also being a gaming machine and just general purpose as well. Why not make it a beast that will last a good amount of time?

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This is a good point. Maybe I'll go back to that corsair I picked out earlier.

Neblix: I was making large assumptions about the case, im not sure how much it actually is. As for my mobo/gpu/cpu choice. Why do you think its bad? You did see the part about it also being a gaming machine and just general purpose as well. Why not make it a beast that will last a good amount of time?

You can get a Core i7 8XX CPU and an LGA 1156 motherboard for cheaper. You might lose performance, but I know I personally would never be able to reach the limit of a Core i7 chip (i don't just do everything in soundfonts either :P).

I apologize, perhaps I shouldn't have haphazardly made a PSU recommendation, I was more bothered that it was $150 than trying to get you to buy a specific one. Yeah, prophet is probably gonna yell at me. :P The general message I was trying to convey is that you're probably paying a little more for this machine than you have to. (you = your friend)

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