Dissidia Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 http://www.sonokinetic.net/products/classical/dacapo/ Released today 22 november. New orchestral libraries are few and far between. Loegria from Albion came out rather recently but other than that it's been a while and it's not often we get to see a new library. What do you think? Are you interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadTK Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 It does look quite interesting, and not that expensive too, all things considered. I'll wait for the opinion of more experient VST users though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 To me it sounds just as good as all the over-priced shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 To me it sounds just as good as all the over-priced shit. This statement pretty much destroys any credibility you have. Just saying. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 This statement pretty much destroys any credibility you have. Just saying. :/ I don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetic Ether Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 This statement pretty much destroys any credibility you have. Just saying. :/ What? 10char Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 What?10char I'd say something like symphobia is over-priced when you can get something like East West for several hundred less and just as good of sound. Apparently though, your thoughts on price destroy credibility entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorax Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 http://www.kvraudio.com/product/the-total-composure-orchestra-by-total-composure this one's cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 http://soundfonts.darkesword.com/ I win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnetic Ether Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I'd say something like symphobia is over-priced when you can get something like East West for several hundred less and just as good of sound.Apparently though, your thoughts on price destroy credibility entirely. Nah, I totally get what you're saying, it sounds good to me too, I'm just not sure why that destroys your credibility. It's not like you were making a professional statement or anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorax Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 http://soundfonts.darkesword.com/I win. Oh, trust me, I've already raided your brother's soundfont site, and I really like the sounds there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissidia Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9oLxOas0lU Ok this is not as interesting anymore, it's just hi-mid-low grouped sections and that seems to be it. I think Loegria Albion I and II sounds better so far with more content and not that much higher price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9oLxOas0lUOk this is not as interesting anymore, it's just hi-mid-low grouped sections and that seems to be it. I think Loegria Albion I and II sounds better so far with more content and not that much higher price. That's quite incorrect. They are all separate sections, grouped only through scripting. You don't have to use the all-sections grouping; you can do the separate ones too. He's demoing a patch where it lets you group sections together. It's not limited to that, he's showing off the functionality because not many if any other orchestral libraries do that, and that's incredibly useful for composers under time constraint and don't have the patience to address each section through MIDI Channel individually. Similar thing with ProjectSAM Orchestral Essentials, except I think the samples are actually grouped in the recordings themselves in ProjectSAM, rather than combined through playing separate sections at the same time, so it's not nearly as flexible. Da Capo is doing really cool stuff here, but it's not limited to the grouping like you were implying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dissidia Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 Thank you for clearing that up Neblix. Does that mean that it's basically a multi? Single/sections grouped into one output? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Thank you for clearing that up Neblix. Does that mean that it's basically a multi? Single/sections grouped into one output? It's a patch with programming in it that lets you access all of the sections inside one patch. It intelligently decides what wav files to play based on your chosen grouping. For instance, if I wanted to double flutes and violas in just one MIDI channel, I'd activate both of them, and then when I trigger a note, the programming decides "play the flute section note C wav file and the viola section note C wav file". And then you can split it further, to have the viola-flute double on the left hand and a brass section on the right, and that can be a combination of the 4 sections or just 1 of them (or it can be a combination of any brass sections and any string sections or any woodwinds). It's up to you to decide. It's basically a gigantic make-your-orchestra patch. You decide which sections are playing and in what range. But you could just as well load 16 of these and activate only 1 section for each, to have the more commonly perceived MIDI channel per instrument. If you wanted to get mathy, the number of combinations you can do here are (I think there are 16 sections here?) up to 16! which is 16 factorial, so 16 x 15 x 14 etc down to 1, which is almost 21 trillion combinations, with probably only 00.000000000001% (so leftover is like 2,100?) of that being realistic (so NOT something like doubling violin with a timpani, cymbal and bass clarinet, all the way to something like ALL THE THINGS AT ONCE), which is still ridiculously huge. In fact, it'd be pretty fair to say no one would do more than say 4 sections at a time unless they had a crazy idea, so that comes to 16 * 15 * 14 * 13, which is a little over 40,000 possible combinations, again, with a lot being unrealistic, but it demonstrates that you really can do anything humanly conceivable here. So it's kind of like an intelligent, dynamic multi, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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