Kat Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Just a little work-in-progress arrangement of Spear of Justice. An orchestral arrangement was the obvious choice. Right now it's very conservative, but I plan to flesh it out into an actual remix at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankTheSpankTankJankerson Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Very conservative, yes. Same key and everything, I think, without having listened to the original in a long time. Why do you think this lends itself to an orchestral arrangement? (This is pure curiosity) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 37 minutes ago, HankTheSpankTankJankerson said: Why do you think this lends itself to an orchestral arrangement? (This is pure curiosity) Song structure, mostly. While I'm aware it was intended to be an over-the-top anime-ish hero theme(which also happens to share its main melody with Waterfall and Ruins, among others) , the way it was all designed just screamed "orchestra" to me. It made very liberal use of orchestral hits along with the marching percussion. The intro portion stuck out to me a lot, as the notes had a very clear staccato feel to them and built up to a climax before going into the lead melody. I'm terrible at explaining this sort of stuff. Mostly it just felt like it was the right way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 The beginning of the original song sticks out to me as something that could be orchestral. Your version doesn't really have the same kind of of energy though - partially because the melody at the beginning is an octave lower, and partially because all the instruments sound muffled. Your percussion is extremely quiet, I can barely hear snare drum, and if the timpani were any quieter, I wouldn't know it was there at all. (In fact, I'm half expecting you to say that there were no timpani.) And the cymbals are too quiet to contribute anything except some soft white-noise. The "rhythm notes" at 0:12 sound repetitive and midi-like. If you don't have any round robin samples, you could still alternate velocities to improve the sound. There is a strange metallic sound at 0:40... you may have been intending for that to be part of the percussion, but it's so quiet, it sounds like a mistake. I do like the crescendoing trombones at 0:53. I think it's a decent example on it's own of how you could be more liberal with the orchestra to add some nice personal touches. Kat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Hm, yeah. I see what you mean now. I was doing a lot of late night mixing on my headphones and the percussion seemed a good deal louder there. Now that I'm on my proper monitors I can hear a good deal of mixing I need to do in that area. 11 hours ago, Slimy said: The "rhythm notes" at 0:12 sound repetitive and midi-like. If you don't have any round robin samples, you could still alternate velocities to improve the sound. The strings/horns in the background? Yeah, I can see that. I was a bit too focused on the lead horns, I think, and trying to get them to sound great. I think I did pretty well in that area for the most part, but I really need to put more attention into the rest of it. For now it'll probably stay a straight arrangement while I get the mix sorted out and sounding better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBoxofChocolate Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 On 6/19/2016 at 1:23 AM, HankTheSpankTankJankerson said: Why do you think this lends itself to an orchestral arrangement? (This is pure curiosity) Cuz it sounds like pirate music, duh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankTheSpankTankJankerson Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 2 hours ago, LongBoxofChocolate said: Cuz it sounds like pirate music, duh... Then it should be in 12/8 CLEARLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, HankTheSpankTankJankerson said: Then it should be in 12/8 CLEARLY Obviously I've made a terrible mistake. I need to rework the entire mix into a pirate-styled mix ASAP. I'm talking lutes and harpsichords and all that pirate jazz. The internet needs a 12/8 pirate-style Cutlass of Justice arrangement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Allen Pinard Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 What orchestral VIs are you using? Sounds like you need to keyswitch a few things as you are using legato samples for staccato notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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