Audiomancer Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) I actually did alot of adjustment on the mix...I installed SPAN and Youlean Loudness meter...those are eye opening plugins, and they're free! I was trying to use Fruity PEQ 2 to do the same thing, I also watched a provided video about reference tracks before tweaking the song. I adjusted the volume, splitting the difference between 11 to 12 RMS, and 13 to 14 LUFS I also (think) I had luck with having in the same project a full mix file running parallel to stems of bass, drums, and instruments. I added a sub bass instrument with strong transients and a pumper effect, as well as a couple other sprinklings here and there. With these adjustments, this version passed the "car test", whereas the previous version didn't sound good in the car...which I didn't find out until after my most recent submission to the judges panel. Edit: I used Mega --Man 3 OC ReMix by MkVaff: "Snake Man (Pulse Mix)"-- for my reference track for the bass and leads...I still have the cymbals more present in my mix...I really like how they sound... Why don't my exports sound the same as when I play the project in my DAW? Is there a setting I can change?! The project sounds better, more bass, less treble. I had this problem back in the day, and I actually made an eq preset to compensate. Looks like I might have to do that again. I did take the high pass filter off of this render, but I feel as though it still sounds unbalanced. TwistedSysterzSubmissionMP38-23-2024.mp3 Edited August 23 by Audiomancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelseph Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Hi Audiomancer! If your mix is sounding drastically different between project and bounce, there’s an issue with the codec being used by the DAW. You’re using FL Studio correct? What format are you mixing down to - 44.1k/128 bitrate I assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiomancer Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 WAV, FLAC, and MP3 all have the same deviation in sound. This version here is a 44.1 320 mp3 file. I just looked, and I'm using FL studio ASIO. I remember having to use that instead of ASIO4ALL v2...I think I was having glitchy sound with that one. Perhaps I'll try ASIO4ALL again. Thanks for the response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelseph Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I highly recommend against ASIO4All in general, though if it does solve your problem, it’s worth it! Audiomancer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NarnianWarrior Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 This definitely sounds really good (I was bobbing my head HARD during that last chorus), but I would say it's still quite treble-heavy. I also think the "ear candy" bits in the climax of the song aren't quite present enough in the mix, although I can still hear them clearly. But at the end of the day, I'm listening on 60 dollar Bluetooth headphones, so make of that what you will. Audiomancer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradiddlesjosh Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Howdy, Audiomancer! The mix is pretty damn good! It sounds like you've been paying attention to the production-related feedback from the judges. With that being said, I feel disappointed by the arrangement. Your drum writing is solid, particularly on the fills and transitions. The drop into a softer segment around the 1:00 mark is a smart choice and communicates a build into something interesting... But the filter sweep into the plucky B section melody without any beat to drive it forward costs your track all the momentum built up from the drop. It sort of meanders its way back to a recap of the A section material -- with some new approaches to the A section material, to be sure -- but there's a huge missed opportunity in the B section. If you like your approach with that bit of material, you could repurpose it into a new intro segment to your arrangement -- optionally, keep this B section segment in its current place as well, but incorporate a beat in half-time feel underneath it with those shuffled hats from the build. Or, you could cut this segment entirely and build right back to the A section recap. The point is your track loses a lot of steam around 1:25 and the recap at 2:04 suffers for it. You've made some great progress with this one; keep it up! Audiomancer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiomancer Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 Thanks for the feedback,Para! i did add a small rhythmic component to the section that you indicated. File attached below. TS New Knowledge Master 2.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiomancer Posted September 9 Author Share Posted September 9 (edited) Another edit, I think I managed to make it sound more "airy" instead of "sizzle". I think this one is panel ready. critiques welcome as always. Had to use a link, can't upload mp3's anymore, allowed file size is reduced. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dNuwRksFqhsx9PINO8XS6Y9r9r4a5egi/view?usp=sharing Edited September 9 by Audiomancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaleph Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) I did some light mastering on it - the kick is too loud and the tail is too long. Because it's so low heavy, the song is being pulled down. This is what it is after the changes I made Essentially what I did was lower your kick and bass frequencies, which allowed me to raise the overall mix. Again it's a really rough job - but this did make it sound a little cleaner. Prior to mastering - you'll need to fix this on a mix level, like the kick needs some sculpting so it doesn't weigh down the mix. Also - you have these double kicks that sounds like a mistake with good speakers since the compressor is masking clipping that should happen here: You need to change the tail/length of the first hit so it doesn't bleed into the second one (or have it just not overlap in the drum settings if that's available to you in the VST/tool you use). In any case - it was a really quick job, but the many issues result from the mixing of the bass and kick, which cause issues with the rest of the mix. I hope this helps =) I can send the mp3 to you on discord if this helps - I attached it here, but it was acting a little buggy. TS MasterKnowledgeProjectMP3-fixes-2-less-bass.mp3 Edited October 3 by Xaleph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiomancer Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 It does...and after I submitted this, I happened to stumble upon an In The Mix video that informed me that arranging differently can make everything else easier. I have actually already re arranging the tune after I watched the video, just in case of. "NO" :) Also, I never understood how to use that spectrum tool now, I've seen it, but didn't understand what I was looking at. Thanks for the feedback, and I'll actually listen to your remaster when I get the chance! Regards, Eric, audiomancer Xaleph 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiomancer Posted October 9 Author Share Posted October 9 So I have altered the kick AND the bass. The kick was made in kick factory in Flex, so it was quite easy to alter the volume and filter envelope on that. The bass in my latest revision is a completely different instrument that I made in patcher involving two instances of 3xosc, one a sub bass basically, and the other is higher pitched with some effects on it, including a flanger.. it's a lot punchier and less muddy sounding than the one on the judges panel currently. When I get home, I'll render it out and post it here:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiomancer Posted October 12 Author Share Posted October 12 (edited) Revised version attached with different kick and bass. Thanks! Edit...the bass is a patcher patch, I used 3xOsc for the lower tones of the bass (square wave), and used Vital for the higher pitched portion. Vital is using a pulse width wavetable with a stereo lfo on it, as well as a phaser. Also, one of my sidechain routings wasn't set up right. The bass has a fair amount of gain reduction, and the pads and leads have a smaller amount of reduction applied now. Edit...I think the kick is too loud here. I have another version that I'll upload when I get the chance. TwistedSysterzNewKickNBassMP3.mp3 Edited October 13 by Audiomancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audiomancer Posted October 23 Author Share Posted October 23 (edited) A few eq adjustments, as mentioned. I also sidechained the snare to everything, but to a lesser degree than the kick. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YoI1od1f3QLbFZgUpPzbP2Nzttdvc7Gx/view?usp=sharing Edited October 23 by Audiomancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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