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6. Practice keyboards and vocals for band
This was actually followed by recording four songs in our rehearsal room. A friend of mine set up a couple of mics and recorded us, and yesterday night we edited/mixed/mastered the stereo track. So that was actually a bigger item than that and now it's done. Feels good. I'll probably post the stuff in the non-ReMix WIP forum later on.
--Eino
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Regarding a co-op, as much as it makes me sound like a control freak, I prefer to work on my remixes myself. I'm all for feedback and everything, but when it comes to actually working on them, I keep it "in house" as it were (for better or for worse). I do appreciate the offer though.
Yeah, I can understand that. Personally the best experiences in making music have been collaborations, but I can definitely relate, there is sometimes a feeling of loss of control or it just doesn't gel.
If you're interested, I have an updated version of Bio Tech (v3, less reverb-laden and distant, a bit louder, a few other tweaks), as well as some other, newer remixes on my site (click my sig). I intend to put up similarly tweaked versions of "Wounds" and "Fallen's" as well at some point in the not too distant future.Thanks, I'll check them out. Bio Tech, playing now, sounds pretty nice, definitely an improvement over the earlier version.
cheers!
--Eino
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I really appreciate all the hard work you've done on this and the progress you've made.
This latest version sounds the most balanced so far. I agree with LT that the intro sounds rather, the difference is quite big to when it kicks in for real. I also agree on the percussion, more can be done there. I do like the hihats, and those snare rolls in there. Towards the end you do some stuff with the bass drum - it's not working, it sounds like stumbling, however, the idea of spicing the beat up rhythmically is good - maybe you could keep that bass drum doing four to the floor and add a less powerful bass drum sound to do the syncopation? (just an idea, might not work but if you'd like to try it out there it is
)In any case, I think it's an improvement and I'm continuing to dig the arrangement. It has a lot of energy!
--Eino
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Pretty interesting take on the theme. I agree it gets a lot out of the short original. I also like the mix of guitar/drums and electronic/8-bit sounds, for instance after the solo at 02:47-02:52.
The panning is too severe in the intro, it gives me nausea on the headphones.
The part writing needs work. I feel bad that I don't know enough theory to give precise feedback, but I can tell that it's off at several places. It's a difficult source for sure to write from.
00:19-00:32, the descending three figures of four chords. In the final figure, the fourth chord/note at 00:31 is off.
00:33-00:38 the guitar ascends back up. Sounds like it's not in quite the correct scale. I think the culprit is just the fourth chord/note (at 00:35).
Next, the descending four figures: the last two are off, probably the third note again. I'm not sure if the chord changes on the synth underneath are good after the first figure. 00:53-00:58 the bass is lost, sounding aimless and out of key. Same again at 01:12-01:16, 01:33 (there's one note out of scale, rest sounded good there), 01:50-01:54, 02:23-02:28, 02:43-02:47.. and yeah, the same part to the end of the track. I'm also not feeling the big guitar solo 02:10-02:48 due to the same off-scale feel that bothers me elsewhere.
I love that part at 01:55-02:00, and 02:00-02:09 is good too.
Overall a track with great promise but also severe problems. You've already done a lot of recording for this one so I'm not sure if you want to revisit this, but I honestly think it's in order. It might help to get feedback from someone who actually knows theory, someone who could name chords/scales and make actual suggestions and so on..
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Robo, you're obviously getting no new feedback until you finish up some of these fantastic wips of yours!
Seriously, sounding good, especially by 01:24.. I love the vibe there.The Dramatic Cello Stabs do some fast repeated notes around 03:00-03:13, and they sound pretty crammed and mechanical there.
The rhythm is quite different from the original (judging by listening the youtube link once), so there's definitely serious reinterpretation going on.
--Eino
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Yeah, the timing is off in the intro, it doesn't sound tight. But apart from that, is sounds really nice and dirty. I really like that little lead guitar in the right channel towards the end.
--Eino
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Certainly a sweet, good-sounding tune. The harp at That Spot sounds really fantastic, but also quite out of place. For the rest of the piece I am waiting for it to repeat, for it to be elaborated upon.
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Hey, kudos for the site, I appreciate the mission.
Be sure to check out lostgarden.com, danc has a bunch of spiffy-looking graphics packs under CC you're allowed to redistribute (as long as you link back to lostgarden) and I'm also sure he'd be happy to hear about your site.--Eino
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Part of the reasoning behind Gentry's title was related to said time signature, so I feel surprised that you were slow to pick it up.
Yeah, I saw what you did there. ..err, I mean I didn't, but I do see that I didn't see what you did there.
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Kyle, you've done a good job with the first post, I definitely like to read all those and it also shows you're quite proud of the project, as you all should be, collecting all the little blips and bleeps SoS makes around in everybody's radars.
Why I'm posting is this post by Roz, where he mentions Gentry is a Five Letter Word is in 5/4. What?! I didn't even realize that! And I have an annoying habit of counting unusual time signatures and pointing them out and whatever. Nice work there Rexy!
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Nice catch - too bad they don't link to OCR!
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1. Make a research plan for my bachelor's thesis
2. Get a job, or at least money
3. Sort out a few problems concerning studies
4. Finish up a couple of courses
5. Write a couple of game reviews/articles
6. Practice keyboards and vocals for band
7. Continue writing SoS crits
8. Start critiquing Boss Theme Project wips
9. Look at arranging a piece myself
10. Configure wordpress and plugins for a project that's been on hold far too long
11. Compose music for a game project
12. Practice guitar for yet another music project
13. Start getting familiar with the code of Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup
14. Learn to use vim to help with that
15. Listen to all the OCR albums
I'm in a good mood enough to post this, instead of getting curshed by it all. This is good.
--Eino
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Free goosebumps!
Fantastic mix. I love the guitar that starts at 00:53, and it's just one of the many hilights in a terrific whole. OA has a great point about panning. There's a lot of stuff in this mix yet it sounds spacey.
--Eino
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Yeah, so get those wips in!
The Coop, would you be interested in doing a coop with someone polishing up the production side? I listened to your posted ReMixes and your arrangements seem solid enough (actually, your PS4 ReMix is quite fantastic, I really appreciate the restraint in it).
I might also whip up a wip.. I'm concerned about my ability to produce something worthy too, so you're not alone.
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Yyyyes, some fine, fine stuff. Very creative.
my gripes/nitpicks:
- not feeling the trumpet note at 01:01, sounds just wrong to me.
- to me, the Dramatic String Stabs almost always sound like they lagged behind a bit, and here they do too, though just a bit.
- the lead flamenco guitar sounds fake, which I'm actually fine with when it goes fast. The longer notes could use perhaps some varying velocities or something
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Fun to hear you experimenting.
The pipe riff is definitely a good, creative idea. I think it clashes a bit harmony-wise in the beginning with the ug theme, but not sure if that's a concern really. Damn, you really take that idea and draw a lot out of it. Loads of kudos for that.On the whole the one previous version I listened felt like a more comprehensive whole, but toying with the pipe riff was ace here. Keep going. This is fun stuff.
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Yeah, good update. I like to look at the judging process list (for whatever reason), and now I feel like more informed n stuff.
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That wasn't Dave in the stock photo.
Hehe, my bad. Definitely looked like him, to me at least.
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Yeah, thanks for asking. Well, not right now. I'm anticipating I'll have all tracks done in 2-3 months. Rexy's gonna get the last one.
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I was fooled for a good while. Saw the front page, thought "what?!", went somewhere else, came back later to see if djp had sorted it out or something, still there.. rinse, repeat. Then I actually started looking at the links and stuff, and realized that it was actually djp in the "stock photo." I thought it was marvellous.
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Okami. Ico should be must-get too.
--Eino
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Tuli suunnaton himo heittää tänne jotain suomeksi. Anteeksi. En ole edes projektissa. :/
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On this note, the Tales Union interview (and the music here, no doubt) made me interested about playing the games. Good work.
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Unfortunately for me, the overall style doesn't appeal to me that much... even for songs with a more calm/sad nature (like Freeze and Mint), it seems like the emotion on the song is partially gone. Maybe it's just me...
I'm guessing it might sound samey because there is so much stuff to absorb. The sequencing (there are lot of good transitions there, which put similarly styled pieces, or pieces with fitting ending/beginning pairs next to each other) might also create a sense of unified feel to the albums. I find the whole surprisingly consistent in overall feel (though I've only had a couple of full listen-throughs so that's to be taken with a pinch of salt).
--Eino
MM3 Sparkman - 'cause MM3 doesn't get enough love here...
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I think the intro is a notch better now. Nice new variations on the melody. Backing is maybe a bit too sparse now - it doesn't feel like the piece (esp. the lead parts) really kicks into gear until the last third.. otoh there's now an interesting feel to the piece, sort of a calm even when it's busy, that might be worth holding on to! edit: starting to sound real good, got this looping in the background a couple of times and didn't want to turn it off
Heh, actually not intended.
--Eino