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Thankyou so much!

also funny that you mentioned it, this song was also never ment to be a chemical plant remix, all I did was dump the lead on to my original version called "I Lieks Saws"

https://soundcloud.com/aires/air3s-fall-ft-t-carlton-why Air3s & T.carlton in this low end banging deephouse edit of the song FALL ft. T.carlton

There is a VIP Ep for this song.......

Holy high end, I forgot I did not compress this track so no need for the usual boost I better give ocr the less high end version. Man do I hate mixing with headphones and forgetting to reference... welp, getting genelecs soon this summer so no worries : /

http://www.soundcloud.com/aires/air3s-disjointed-chemicals For those who listened to the original soundcloud version, the changes should be obvious. For those who do not know of the origin, don't worry about it. ( if you indeed do "worry about it," the original is still in the pits of my soundcloud

When I make effects heavy electro songs, I mix in mono because if my songs aren't mono friendly, no label will even bother listening to the song. Songs that arent mono friendly tend to sound suboptimal on devices other than the device it was mixed on (what I noticed imo). If your song is going to be played live, then your instruments should be centered or the audience will not get a balanced sound no matter where they are in whatever venue. the only thing stereo if the master for the song is a "live version" is probably delay effects, reverb etc... What I noticed too is that eqing conflicts with other instruments are easier when the mix is in mono (excluding using the eq for sound design reasons) and sometimes leveling tracks can be easier when the track is in mono. Then again I dont EQ conflicts unless its a very serious problem. I started noticing that the more effects of any type of effects even for production purposes tend to gently chew off quality of the sounds I am working with IMO.

When I make effects heavy electro songs, I mix in mono because if my songs aren't mono friendly, no label will even bother listening to the song. Songs that arent mono friendly tend to sound suboptimal on devices other than the device it was mixed on (what I noticed imo). If your song is going to be played live, then your instruments should be centered or the audience will not get a balanced sound no matter where they are in whatever venue. the only thing stereo if the master for the song is a "live version" is probably delay effects, reverb etc... What I noticed too is that EQ'ing conflicts with other instruments is easier when the mix is in mono (excluding using the eq for sound design reasons) and sometimes leveling tracks can be easier when the track is in mono. Then again I dont EQ conflicts unless its a very serious problem. I started noticing that the more effects of any type of effects even for production purposes tend to gently chew off quality of the sounds I am working with IMO. Some people have mono headphones since some people have a hard time listening to stereo on headphones (please note that I am a speaker fan, and I think headphones should stick with MP3 players and cellphones). Same thing with laptop speakers, older TV's that dont have stereo. And as said some radios stations play their songs in mono. there are alot of reasons to have your songs mono friendly, and there are probably more reasons. If your audience is not that big and most of the people you know who listen to your music are probably listening on a stereo device, then maybe you should not worry too much on your mixes being Mono friendly.

What danthr said. Another thing, if its not your signal chain when you record anything and just your guitar amp recorded giving that hiss, then using a EQ (that can shelf) or a filter to roll of the high end you dont want is one idea to fix your problem(alot of people do that). Here is a simple tip. Make sure that your mic is properly connected to a mixer or interface with decent cables, and if your mic needs it, make sure your mixer or interface supports phantom power 48v. If your using a preamp, make sure your connecting it to your mixer and/or interface properly.

Great stuff! *bumps*

http://www.beatport.com/#release/charm-city-bus-pass/1035683 Cereal Cereal Cereal Cereal Codge Dharger Original Mix 3:21 / 128 BPM Electro House City Original Mix 5:39 / 130 BPM Electro House ReactionOriginal Mix Air3s, fxscreamer 3:15 / 128 BPM Electro House

Thankyou on the wonderful feed back! As always, I will not respond to remarks on the composition since it's opinion, but I will try my best to respond (or agree) to the mixing queries from not only this thread and other sources. One soundcloud person said it should be louder... for softer songs, I don't make too loud and will not make the song louder. Another said the bass line feels to center-ish... I agree, I should have widened it a little. ------ @timaeus222 The kick is fine, it's not meant to be a low/mid-end heavy kick like other electro tracks, but I did boost the 100hz, a little sweet spot I found for PA's for kicks. hmm, there is no snare in this song, not sure what you mean. (funny you mentioned high end, a friend on aim told me there is too much high end on some sounds and most of my other song.) Piano has verb but little decay, I don't like pianos with a lot of decay, makes it sound odd to me, but I hear what you mean. I just used a limiter and EQ'ed the Master and no compression at all. No intentions of making the track thick/big The lead at 2:51 has no compression, it just does not have as much verb as the other tracks giving it the feel like it is compressed, but if the other tracks where not verbed, I prob would compress it because the lead sounds weak, tho the track is not intended to be a fat track like my other tracks. ---- @A-RoN What sqaure-ish bass? I did some re-Eqing to one of the Bass lines on the lowend for my new version, not a whole lot of difference though. Im not sure what he meant by mastering issue, I would however like for him to elaborate more on his view to see what I would do.

Thankyou!!

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Excellent point! I'll give it a try

^ This I did nothing to the drums but boost the cymbals a bit and tiny compression so the drums can pump : / its all on performance, sounds, and your master bus.

Dream theaters drums use all sorts of different instruments in there kit, the sound you got going sounds like mike portney's images and words sound. How does this sound for you? made it in 2 or 3 hours https://soundcloud.com/aires/i-like-cereal-makes-a-cool also please dont bug me on me playing clean, have not played my guitar since last summer hehe, got kinda lazy on some of this ; (

No, I mean could you make and render a small drum piece so we can hear what your sound is like with 3 different rhythms that would be in a metal song.

Could you post 2-3 different loops (that you would hear in a metal song) so I/we can hear the kinda sound you got going on please and I will see if I can find a easy way to get the sound your looking for.

https://soundcloud.com/aires/air3s-eclipse Something I got outa practice hehe

Oh 0 midi... dont they have converters for Type 1 midi? This does not seem like a problem, but a work flow problem. One concern I have is if he needs to use pre-made midi clips for most projects instead of composing it or just for things he would like to arrange or for ideas etc... @Esperado Are you using live 8(or suit) or a low version? Ableton is a very good Daw and if you get used to daws like Cubase and Protools, Ableton will feel like a great tool for composing.

I'v lost the project AND all sources of the project "Air3s - Airspace" , except one that was slowed down, which sounds like this http://tindeck.com/listen/iojw I remember making it downloadable on tindeck exclusively. so if anyone still happens to have that project, please give me a mp3 or wav. download, thankyou!

If you are going to use ANY type of reference monitors worth their grain of salt, you should seriously buy a audio interface with decent converters Headphones mix (Haunted House on beatport soon) monitor mix on 5" at a friends house http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUla17c8UDo (diddy kong racing remix) (but composed with headphones) Im using Sennheiser HD203, So good for me That is a weird problem having all midi data forced to one track. here is another question, do you need to always import midi for every project you do? IF possible, could you post a video, or pictures of your issue For Daw recommendation, I say go with Cubase my favorite for recording and mix, not not so much with midi unless im live performing on my keyboard. for composing midi, I handle all that with Ableton.

what kinda midi import issues, and what kind of D/A do you have?

Bump Ah darn, gonna change some SLIGHT things in this song, not sure if anyone while recognize it