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Look, we're not saying that Metroid is just a shooter like any other. That's obviously untrue. But Metroid has had shooter elements since the NES. Samus does a lot of shooting. The shooting may not be the primary focus of the game, but you have to at least admit that shooting occurs with some frequency and is a key function in the Metroid series.
Can a game really not be a shooter and an adventure at the same time? The notions that Metroid is "just a shooter" or "not a shooter at all" sound equally absurd.
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Because Metroid is not just a shooter.
This would probably be a better way to put it. I understand the point you're trying to make, but Metroid Prime has very prominent shooter elements that can't just be glossed over.
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The "goody two-shoes" behavior is entirely your choice. You can help the villagers out, or you can wipe them from the map. It's fun game, really. Imagine Pikmin and the the Lord of the Rings crossed together.
One of the most enertaining things is that the world shows you what Middle Earth must look like from Sauron's point of view. Hobbits are gluttonous, disgusting hole-dwellers, dwarves are nothing but boisterous drunks, elves are fruity little whiners and men are just about worthless. You can help most of these groups out in exchange for their servitude and homage, or you can just save yourself the trouble and exterminate them. There's not really much "goody two-shoes" to be found here. You can either be evil-evil or mostly-evil. "Chaotic Good" may be a better term.
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Genre distinctions are helpful, but there's a certain point where you have to let individual games just be what they are within their broad genre. Halo, Half Life and Metroid may all be First Person Shooters, but each of them has their own strengths, weaknesses and unique experiences to offer. A game doesn't need it's own genre category to offer a unique experience. For a glimpse at what happens when you define your genres too narrowly, just have a look at techno music.
That said, the fact that one could almost fit Oblivion into the genre of FPS does kind of show that some additional genre specifications might be useful. I kind of wish the camera viewpoint were left out of genre names entirely. Third-person shooters are almost the same exact thing and plenty of non-shooter games offer the first-person view.
I don't know. In the end, I doubt too many people lose any sleep over genres. I don't have to know that Psychonauts was a platformer to know it was awesome.
I need sleep, I think. I'm starting to babble.
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The beginning felt a little un-Metroid to me until I watched GameTrailer's retrospective again and remembered that Samus dealing with the Feds is far from new. I think the beginning just feels a little un-Metroid Prime. But a little change is not a bad thing.
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Are we doing Friend Voucher exchanges in this thread?
If yes, 7672 3179 6340 3241.
If no, ignore me completely.
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At least MGS online play is coming back with MGS4.
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Until complete VR gaming is realized, the keyboard/mouse duo will likely reign supreme. Heck, may be even after.
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You know, I think I could stand to never hear the Space Pirates theme again. It was fine at first, but now it's just annoying.
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On a similar note, is the ability to edit thread titles just not vB supported? It was handy back in the day to update your WIP thread title with a progress notice or just to alter your thread title when necessary.
I'm sure this has been brought up numerous times already, I'm just curious if this is a code limitation or a moderation choice.
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You know those 5 classic notes that play every time Samus exits her ship onto a new world? I want a little speaker that plays that every time I get out of my car.
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Would we be encouraged to limit our content to gaming/music related posts? Either way, count me in.
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Haven't gotten to start the game yet, but the 360 demo was nothing short of incredible. I'm anxious to start the real thing.
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I meant to say so earlier, but I eagerly anticipate purchasing this album.
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I haven't even had a chance to listen to the album yet, and the packaging has already made me glad I purchased it.
Signed CD insert with smiley face: check.
Handwritten note of thanks with confetti and butterfly stickers inside: check.
Wrapped in blue tissue paper and sealed with another gold butterfly sticker: check
Lovely album art to top it all off: check.
I don't think I've ever had an album give such a great impression before I even listened to it. This CD is already a one-of-a-kind experience. Thanks, Helen!
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I was worried we'd never see Destiny around here again. Not only does she pop in, but I've got a whole album of Helen-y goodness coming in the mail. This is a fine day indeed.
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So people still think the FFVII remake is happening, huh?
It will. The demand is high enough, Tetsuya Nomura has expressed interest and we all know Square Enix knows how to milk a franchise. It's really just a matter of time at this point.
Everything about MGS4 is looking fantastic. I need to start saving for my PS3.
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I've had a few people recognize the shirt. Still waiting for someone to recognize the shirt and know who sephfire is.
Hasn't happened yet.
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Nope, we never did get married.
WHOA. I had no idea you still frequented OCR. Awesome.
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The torrent keep giving me a "Bad File Component" error message when I try to run it. Any ideas why it might tell me such things?
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Forgotten already?
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Well, guys ... the time has come to bring this thread to a close. I give you ...
The FINAL OCR Must-Have Games List
Dreamcast
Bangai-O
Crazy Taxi
Daytona USA
Ecco the Dolphin: Defender of Earth
Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves
Grandia II
Ikaruga
Jet Grind Radio
Last Blade 2
Marvel vs. Capcom
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Metropolis Street Racer
Powerstone 2
Project Justice
Skies of Arcadia
Soul Calibur
Street Fighter III: Double Impact
Street Fighter III: Third Strike
Street Fighter Alpha III
Playstation 2
Ace Combat 5
Amplitude
Beatmania IIDX 8th Style
Beyond Good and Evil
Breath of Fire 5: Dragon Quarter
Burnout 3: Takedown
Castlevania: Lament of Innocence
Devil May Cry
Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening
Disgaea: Hour of Darkness
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves
Final Fantasy XII
God of War
God of War II
Grand Theft Auto III
Guilty Gear X2
Guitar Hero
Guitar Hero 2
ICO
Jak II
Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
Katamari Damacy
Kingdom Hearts
MegaMan Anniversery Collection
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
Okami
Onimusha 2: Samurai’s Destiny
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
Rez
Shadow of the Colossus
Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
Silent Hill 2
Soul Calibur 2
Soul Calibur 3
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection
Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria
Viewtiful Joe
We Love Katamari
Xbox
Beyond Good and Evil
Burnout 3: Takedown
Capcom Classics Collection 2
Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
Dead or Alive Ultimate
Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Halo
Halo 2
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Ninja Gaiden Black
Oddworld: Stranger’s Wrath
OutRun2
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
Project Gotham Racing 2
Psychonauts
Shenmue II
Soul Calibur 2
SSX 3
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Gamecube
Animal Crossing
Eternal Darkness: Sanity’s Requiem
F-Zero GX
Ikaruga
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Mario Power Tennis
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Metroid Prime
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Pikmin 2
Resident Evil 4
Skies of Arcadia Legends
Soul Calibur 2
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Viewtiful Joe
Wario Ware Inc.: Mega Party Game$
Nintendo DS
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
Elite Beat Agents
Metroid Prime: Hunters
NEW Super Mario Bros.
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright 2: Justice for All
Tetris DS
PSP
Lumines
Tekken: Dark Resurrection
It's been a fun thread guys. Maybe we'll do it again sometime.
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I gave up simply because people were not offering adequate reasons for why [insert game] is a must play. There are too many games on the list where flaws stick out like a sore thumb that kill enjoyment for many by a longshot that people are YESing, and when someone NOs it, there is an inadequate rebuttal that does nothing to counter the claims of the negative experiences.
You speak truth. I think if we had a couple dozen people in here voting regularly, this problem would get weeded out naturally by the voting process itself. If a game's flaws really were too great to consider for must-have status, a majority of the voters would probably feel this and vote its supporters down. Unfortunately, with a smaller group, that majority is a lot less reliable. Example: As it stands, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes is tied at 4-4. If we had a couple dozen people in here, I bet a more visible majority would surface one way or the other.
Unfortunately, without that sort of group size, I'm not sure these threads will be terribly effective.
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If you happen to get in a last couple votes a day late, I'll squeeze them in.
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Much as I'd love to do another of these threads, I don't know if there's enough interest. Four regular voters doesn't give us a very wide range of taste.
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
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Why pidgeon-hole the game into one of the two genres at all? It doesn't belong exclusively in either one, so what is the point? This issue seems more pointless with every page.