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  1. Man, great read. Honestly, i like elaborate feedback just as much, but just knowing that you infected some people with happiness is about as sweet as it gets.

    Sounds like something you'd play on Donkey Konga, everything is interwoven spectacularly. I especially like the drum work. I'm pretty sure those are all SampleTank2 samples, you used some of the brass samples really well. I usually hate the ST2 brass samples but you make them work here. I also like the way the blues guitar and 1920 piano come across as really humane.

    Wow Roe, you identified the piano. yeah, there's a lot of ST2 stuff in there, but it's a mixture of that and Kontakt stock stuff.

    You really know your SampleTank though.

    I have some stuff for Kontakt that surpasses the Sampletank content on paper, but i keep coming back for some samples in there because there's something about them and they're really usable. It's certainly not the realism!

    I guess this is what happens when you write all your songs in C

    Interesting point :)

    Funny though, I sequenced the whole thing from memory (I've been dicking around with these tunes since i started sequencing. I even remember transcribing the SMB2 Theme on a polyphonic cellphone in 2002, 2 years before i picked up a proper sequencer. It probably was pretty horrible.)

    Still, I landed right in the key of C! Coincidence? Or maybe it's just the key that Mario tunage is supposed to be in? who knows...

    Awesome. This is right up there with Kennen Sie Mario.

    Hahaha...owell i suppose this needs linkage.

    http://olremix.org/remixes/717

  2. Ah. I think I actually heard this on youtube as part of this rock candy...'project'.

    Really like this, has sort of a ponderous quality to it. Great balance between Shnabubulean virtuosity (while not getting too heavy) and thoughtful restraint.

    More mixes d00d! Actually, I challenge you to make an impro remix employing that lh>drums/rh>bass concept you had started on a while ago. That'd be tits

  3. I had a microkorg (the classic one) for a while, but didn't get to much use out of it.

    The sounds are pretty nice, but it's nothing you couldn't do with software.

    Editing patches is bothersome and unintuitive with the few knobs available, you'd have to get very familiar with all the submenus to feel somewhat comfortable with the editing process, and it still wouldn't be as fast as having a complete layout with all parameters in front of you. It does have a software editor, but then again why not just use software.

    I think these little boxes (korg/micron alike) mostly are useful to live performers or people who don't use VSTs (e.g. those who don't like the workflow of software sequencers).

    What I have now is a little monophonic analogue synth, the Doepfer Dark Energy. Not nearly as powerful from a sound design perspective as the digital synths comparable in price, but it sounds nice and the most important thing is that there's a knob for each and every parameter. You can really work this thing and get lost in tweaking it.

    I can't say that I've used it in a lot of my music yet either (software is still the best for getting things done for me), but it's simply loads of fun.

    The fact that it's analogue isn't all that important to me, it's the direct access to everything the synth can do that i find so valuable. I haven't seen any digital synth below $500 that offers just that. Of course, digital synths usually are more complex and thus would require more knobs.

    Well, YMMV. There's a pretty high demand for these low budget synths, so I didn't have any trouble selling my microkorg for a decent price. Maybe you have to own one for a while to really know if it's the right thing for you.

  4. First impression: Little bit of a weak year this time, i remember '07 being much stronger.

    That said, I really like the sound of _02.circles (the one at the very bottom that no one on kvr seems to talk about), and the morphing function of massTURBOtar is quite neat.

    FMMF might be very good too, I just have trouble getting into the tweaking aspect with FM synths and the presets aren't that inspirational to me.

    Ah, still gotta check out xoxos' new music generator, his stuff is always off the hook, even though I rarely have a practical use for it.

  5. This is super light-hearted, pure fun. Had I known of this mix when it came out, it would've been all over my OCR mix cds back then. Right next to Maze's Turtle Wave.

    Strangely nostalgic.

    The basses sounds very spc700, extremely groovy.

    This being OCRemix, I'm almost weirded by the fact out that no one complained about the 1:47 lead sounding off-key and ruining the song for them or whatever. It threw me off for 2 seconds and then I just had a laugh. Great little wtf intermezzo man.

    I'll listen to some more Palpable now, to be honest with ya I didn't know your music at all!

  6. I loved this mix, and not even that horn can turn me away. Awesome work dude, I can't wait to hear more! :-)

    Yeah, that horn. Not my fav part either. I was planning to send a revised version just because of that one, actually, but didn't get around to. It started to annoy me soon enough, guess I should've given the track a bit more time to sit around (it was made in a day).

    Glad you liked the rest though :)

    Thanks for the warm welcome everyone.

    Halc said to me something along the lines that once his first mix was posted, his lust for remixing has only increased; I hope that'll hold true for me as well!

    I really gotta submit stuff more regularily now though...

    *signs off to spam subs@ocremix with his entire OLR collection*

  7. nope.

    You guys make me feel soo ordinary. Screw you all.

    Wait, I do get images with music when I'm really spacing out, almost half asleep. Sometimes when I'm in that state the music starts forming sentences and starts dia-/monologues, not in the common metaphorical sense but something with an actual, non-abstract meaning.

    However, it mostly stops making sense in my memory when i'm getting more conscious again.

    Oh, and the piano roll thing, but that's an entirely different story, haha.

    But really, the fact that I have to get stoned or try to tune in to a certain state of consciousness to experience what some people get just from listening to music fuels my envy. :o

  8. It's not about DIY, it's not about presets being bad.

    The question simply is, is buyware necessary in this case. I purposefully didn't give a definite answer, rather 'maybe, maybe not. check out the free options, then the commercial ones if that doesn't cut it.'

    I didn't say that freeware works just as well in every case, I said that it MIGHT be sufficient for the OP's needs. I just can't know based on what he said.

    You see, the thing is that newbs often don't know what awesome and instantly usable freeware is available. I just think it's a good idea to shed some light on that first.

    For the record, I own a few commercial synths and I'm glad I do. For example, I wouldn't know how to get the filter sound of Twin2 or Imposcar with freeware.

    Dunno what else to say for clarification...it just seems like you're reading things into my posts that I just can't see. Maybe we should give it a rest, we're running a bit in circles here.

  9. Wow BGC. You're talking rubbish now.

    I like how you left out my next sentence. Let me quote it in big ass letter :lol:

    You can probably draw conclusions that there are free VSTi's out there that seem to be able to do what some of the commercial ones do, but in many cases, the free ones also CANNOT do what many of the commercial ones do.

    I was just saying that I obviously agree with you in that respect. What the hell is wrong with that?

    The difference between guys like me and guys like you and Scott, is that

    1) I'm not hating on free stuff.

    By this you are implying that I'm hating on buyware, which is ridiculous if you look at what I said.

    and 2) I'm only pointing out what is (usually) a much easier and more direct option that provides a larger template of available sounds without having to tweak for minutes/hours.

    I provided a few examples that have hundreds of usable presets available. You want me to name more?

    Sure, Omnisphere or Kore Player products will beat them anytime as far as instant gratification/inspiration goes. But we're definitely not talking about hours of tweaking time here.

    And speaking for myself here, I have not missed the point at all, but I think you may have. Perhaps you should reread my long post? It covered everything you just said (and seemed to overlook).

    Where did you cover my attempt at balancing the discussion by naming good freeware alternatives?

    Once again, let the final choice remain up to the end user, not you. These "what if" scenarios are great speculation, but they could also just be farting in the wind.

    wtf? If you break it down, I said 'inform yourself about the options, then decide'. In what way do i take the final choice from the end user by saying that?

    The point of this whole discussion is not to pwn anybody, but rather enlighten the DIY'ers as to why presets/commercial plugins don't need to be avoided just because they're for sale.

    who the hell claimed otherwise? if you keep making up/distorting other people's views then I'll avoid any further discussion with you. Maybe that's just what you want though.

    You're acting completely overdefensively again. I never wanted to attack you or show any disrespect to the way you work.

    I wanted to put emphasis on free alternatives and maybe save someone a couple bucks in case he turns out to be happy with the free stuff.

  10. Here's another thing. How do you know that you can do everything with a free synth that you can with a commercial one? You don't.

    I pretty much know for a fact that some commercial synths do stuff/have a certain sound that can't be matched by any freeware available. Is that even up for debate?

    You're missing the point. It's simply the safer route to first inform yourself firsthand about what freeware can do and THEN consider spending money if you're not satisfied.

    What if the guy buys Omnisphere, then downloads a couple free plugins and realises that those are all he'd ever need? Would be way more frustrating than the first scenario wouldn't it?

  11. I find it a little irresponsible to suggest to a newbie that he should buy something like omnisphere [$500 for a synth? jesus fucking christ] without considering any other options first.

    word.

    http://www.greenoak.com/crystal/

    http://krakli.com/krakli-cygnus/

    Those two are especially good for evolving pad sounds with a lot of motion in them.

    Plenty of presets available for both.

    on a sidenote, the dev of crystal now works for spectrasonics (omnisphere). if that works as a seal of quality for ya.

    For less complex sounds, synth1 should do a fine job

    http://www.geocities.jp/daichi1969/softsynth/

    There's a very nice pad soundbank by tim conrardy for synth1. Should be quite inspirational. it's included in here:

    http://rekkerd.org/tim-conrardy-patch-collection/

    Seriously though guys, it's cool that you're gearsluts and are having fun with your stuff, but don't spoil the newbs :P

    I think it's nice to start small and develop a sense for what freeware can get you and for what it possibly can't. You can still shell out money if you think that the free stuff doesn't cut it.

  12. Hey Roe. Glad ye like!

    The pad sound is from Oatmeal, nice freebie.

    About the bitcrushing thing, can't remember, but could very well be :) I rarely make anything electronic without some crushed bits somewhere.

    Nice to hear that you like the detail. Others would call it randomness ;)

  13. "Oh god I need this sound but have no idea how to make it"

    *buys plugin*

    *finds out only 10 presets are usable*

    *hunts for next plugin*

    Haha, KVR has quite a few of those people, with way too much money on their hands.

    There's this one guy in particular that keeps buying anything new and shiny and then tries to sell it in the forum's market place a couple days later because god forbid there was some work involved in making it sound like in the demos.

  14. Seriously tho, my (cool?) assessment here is that I've yet to learn to use Omnisphere and Superior properly before even needing something like this

    My assessment would be that if you learn how to use Omnisphere properly, you won't really be needing this.

    You need this if you want to make a nice sounding score or atmospheric track fast and easy, without spending too much time on sound design. Provided money isn't much of an issue of course.

    If you have enough time on your hands, own Omnisphere and maybe a few supplementary smaller libraries for percussion and the like, you should be able to do the same job just as well though.

    Btw, everyone, If you have Kontakt, I recommend trying out the free demo patches the company offers. They're a lot of fun to play, particularily the ones from Synergy. These guys definitely are good at what they're doing, even though the general preset-ish aproach with limited tweakability isn't totally up my alley when I'm just making music for myself. Which is pretty much all the time :)

    Oh, BGC, if you're still including me in the 'music purists/elitists' group, you're simply lacking humour :P

    Seriously though, this stuff is worth discussing. It seems like my hyperboles from that last thread were directly quoted in Rozo's post, and he made it seem like a righteous armada of elitists were ranting away the last time.

    So let me give a clear and unencrypted opinion this time:

    Presets, and preset midis and all of that stuff, are alright, they have their use obviously. There isn't always a need to reinvent the wheel.

    That said, the bigger the 'building blocks' you work with, so to speak, become, the greater the chance will be that the end product is going to sound less individual, less 'you'.

    You can prevent it, you can still put your own spin on it. It is just less likely to happen when, to offer an extreme example, you have this super awesome one key wonder preset that sounds so great already that you'd be hard pressed to make it sound any better.

    I find that relation obvious, but judging from the last thread it's a touchy subject when you voice it in a more provocative way.

    See, I don't care how you make your music. Even if it is heavily preset based, unless I know the libraries in question or they're just literally sprayed over all the new stuff that comes out, I probably won't even notice and might enjoy it a lot.

    It's really just about you and your relationship with your music. If you're happy with many presets and feel like you manage to express yourself well with them instead of just doing some advanced 'sound collage', then who am I to tell you to change that.

    If you feel something is missing, then doing more of your own sounds might help you develop a more intimate relationship with your compositions. Or you'll just fiddle around with parameters and get nothing done.

    Who knows? It's not for everyone, and that's alright. Sometimes I like to just focus on composition as well.

    S'all.

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