djpretzel Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 Please evaluate the following ReMixes for removal from OCR prior to lockdown, with an emphasis on standards violations but also taking quality issues into account where applicable. Please respond by indicating each mix by number, in sequence, and putting a YES or NO next to each - YES if you think it should be removed, NO if you think it shouldn't. Leave mixes you are uncertain regarding blank for now. I'll be voting on this set as well, so you can use my post as a template. 1. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00272 Quake_3_Thalk_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Just sound effects, no game music. REMOVED 2. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00297 Chrono_Cross_OpenItUp_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Apparently just the original with a drum loop, perhaps sped up. Need to hear original... REMOVED 3. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00027 Doom_E1M1_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: MIDI rip with instruments changed. REMOVED 4. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00114 Super_Metroid_Fashion_Techno_Remix.mp3 Reason: Just weird sound effects, no game music. REMOVED 5. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00024 Secret_of_Mana_Fear_of_heaven_Ben_Lewis_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: SPC with drum loops, author admits to it being essentially so. REMOVED 6. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00236 Starcraft_EasilyAmused_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Sound effects, no game music. REMOVED 7. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00020 Super_Mario_Land_Millennium_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: GBS rip with creative processing and drums. REMOVED 8. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00144 Mega_Man_2_Ending_Trance_Reality_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: NSF rip with drums. REMOVED 9. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00033 Chuchurocket_DaleNorth_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Drum loop on original. Commercial music - not in game. REMOVED 10. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00074 Mega_Man_Vejita_CutMan_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: NSF rip with drums. REMOVED 11. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00142 Mega_Man_2_WeaponGain_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: NSF rip with drums. REMOVED 12. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00051 Starfox_Space_trip_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Just weird sound effects, no game music. REMOVED 13. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00242 Startropics_LeafVibe_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Not from any identifiable ingame music. REMOVED 14. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00049 Mega_Man_3_Topman_Chuck_M_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Quality issues. REMOVED 15. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00128 Chrono_Trigger_Synthetic_Time_Parasite_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Quality issues. REMOVED 16. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00039 Chuchurocket_BadCD_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Drum loop on original. Commercial music - not in game. REMOVED Update: 17. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00281 Kirby's_Superstar_Wind_Breaker_OC_Remix.mp3 Reason: original with layered scratching/fx REMOVED 18. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00679 Counterstrike_InTheLineOfFire_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: game had no music REMOVED 19. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00306 Counterstrike_PaleriderTraining_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: game had no music REMOVED 20. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00031 Sonic_Labyrinth_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: If not a MIDI/GYM rip, almost exactly the same REMOVED 2nd Update 21. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00666 Robocop_CPC_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Uses original very extensively. However, both drums, bassline, and later synths are additions. 22. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00185 Final_Fantasy_7_OneWingedTechno_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Apparently a MIDI rip. Also, quality issues regardless. REMOVED 3rd Update 23. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00106 SimCity_Speed_Town_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Original with drums on top. Quality issues. REMOVED 24. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00315 Koudelka_Requiem(ElectricFlamesMix)_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: samples too extensively from original REMOVED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted June 22, 2003 Author Share Posted June 22, 2003 1. Yes (remove) 2. Yes 3. Yes 4. Yes 5. Yes 6. Yes 7. Yes 8. Yes 9. Yes 10. Yes 11. Yes 12. Yes 13. Yes 14. Yes 15. Yes 16. Yes Update 17. Yes 18. Yes 19. Yes 20. Yes 2nd Update 21. No 22. Yes (MIDI for verification would be nice) 3rd Update 23. Yes 24. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protricity Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 1. YES Reason: Just sound effects, no game music. 2. YES Reason: Most certainly the original with a drum loop,sped up. 3. YES Reason: MIDI rip with instruments changed. 4. YES Reason: The original spc not even in sync with the drumloop, and a bunch of distorted sound effects from the game. He somehow managed to make it out of tune as well. 5. YES Reason: SPC with drum loops. 6. YES Reason: No SC music whatsoever. 7. YES Reason: GBS rip + drums. 8. YES Reason: NSF rip + drums. 9. YES Reason: Original with drums layered on top. Nice job, fun, but a definate violation 10. YES Reason: NSF rip + drumloop 11. YES Reason: NSF rip + drumloop 12. YES Reason: SFX, no Music. 13. YES Reason: Found the nsf, listened to the whole track. Its not in there. 14. YES Reason: Its not so much a remix as a huge 2 minute flange effect. 15. YES Reason: I like the idea, but the quality issues and sanity issues must come into consideration. 16. YES Chuchurocket_BadCD_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Drum loop on original. 17. YES Kirby's_Superstar_Wind_Breaker_OC_Remix.mp3 Reason: original with layered scratching/fx 18. YES Counterstrike_InTheLineOfFire_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Not Game Music 19. YES Counterstrike_PaleriderTraining_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Not Game Music 20. YES Reason: exactly the same as original 21. NO Robocop_CPC_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Uses original very extensively. But later on theres a ton of original. This is not an extreme violation. 22. YES Final_Fantasy_7_OneWingedTechno_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Apparently a MIDI rip, But has original values too. Still, its too extreme of a violation. 23. YES Sim_City_Speed_Town_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: If you listen, its the original played over with some... very ... subpar drums. Anyway, I think it constitutes drums over original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatdrop Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 1. YES 2. YES 3. YES 4. YES 5. YES 6. YES 7. YES 8. YES 9. YES 10. YES 11. YES 12. YES 13. YES 14. YES 15. YES 16. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Coma Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 No qualms here. 1. YES 2. YES 3. YES 4. YES 5. YES 6. YES 7. YES 8. YES 9. YES 10. YES 11. YES 12. YES 13. YES 14. YES 15. YES 16. YES 17. YES 18. YES 19. YES 20. YES yadda yadda yadda 21. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00666 Robocop_CPC_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Uses original very extensively. However, both drums, bassline, and later synths are additions. NO: Agreed; borderline controversial, but not bad enough 22. http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00185 Final_Fantasy_7_OneWingedTechno_OC_ReMix.mp3 Reason: Apparently a MIDI rip. Also, quality issues regardless. YES: Toss it 23. YES - NO THANKS 24. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcos Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 1. Yes (remove) 2. Yes 3. Yes 4. Yes 5. Yes 6. Yes 7. Yes 8. Yes 9. Yes 10. Yes 11. Yes 12. Yes 13. 14. Yes 15. Yes 16. Yes I think I'll go wash my ears out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatdrop Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 I'm YES for all three of those. Having also played Counter-Strike for about three years or so, I can reinforce Prot's statement by also pointing out that there is indeed NO music in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivemaster Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 Hi guys, finally got hold of all of these, and I agree with everyone that they should be removed. 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes 4. Yes 5. Yes 6. Yes 7. Yes 8. Yes 9. Yes 10. Yes 11. Yes 12. Yes 13. Yes 14. Yes 15. Yes 16. Yes ...will still have to look at Protricity's suggestions for removal... -Jive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vig Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 i have access to a computer today, i'll try to vote on these later this evening. and yes, prot, the general bitch-level has gone up over the past week, but i havent been on in the past two days, so i havent gotten any complaints regarding mix removals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 One last one that 3 people bitched at me for.Btw, is anyone else getting this degree of bitching? I think I might have to remove my aim info from the forums or something. Castlevania_Adventure_CV2K_OC_ReMix.mp3 Apparently an nsf + drumloop with minor remixing skills. Personally, I dont believe this is an 'extreme violation', but I do agree that it borrowed WAY heavily from other sources, drumloop and original. What do you guys think? Not extreme enough, not as bad as the other examples, orchestrates more on top than just drums. Honestly, not saying that just because it's McV, it really does do more than NSF+drumloop. UPDATE: Prot's three additions, as well as a Sonic Labyrinth Zone ReMix that's almost certainly a rip of some nature - or far too close to the original - have been added. Please update you votes accordingly. We have a consensus on 1-16, so I will proceed with their removal at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m68030 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 For x = 1 to 20 step 1 print x". YES" next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcos Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 17. Kirby's_Superstar_Wind_Breaker_OC_Remix.mp3 18. Counterstrike_InTheLineOfFire_OC_ReMix.mp3 19. Counterstrike_PaleriderTraining_OC_ReMix.mp3 20. Sonic_Labyrinth_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3 17. Yes remove it 18. Yes 19. Yes 20. Yes The Counterstrike mixes were mixes of samples than anything else. These are CS mixes. I've played CS, it has no soundtrack. Though its kinda unfortunate that that means no CS remixes ever, the point still stands that a game cannot have remixed music if it has no music. I couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Dan Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 21: Borderline, but the latter synth work makes up for the use of the original (in my opinion). If we throw this away, we have to get rid of Tetris Quasiultramix or whatever vaf's thingamy is called. KEEPER 22: Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with everyone else on this one. It's pretty much the same. LOSER D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protricity Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 And another: Sim_City_Speed_Town_OC_ReMix.mp3 If you listen, its the original played over with some... very ... subpar drums. Anyway, I think it constitutes drums over original. And Another: Koudelka_Requiem(ElectricFlamesMix)_OC_ReMix.mp3 This is at Pordon's request. It is indeed track1.mp3 with drums over it and some flanging. He did some repeating, but thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m68030 Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 I'd say YES to both the Koudelka and SimCity track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted June 25, 2003 Author Share Posted June 25, 2003 The only mix that was not voted to be removed was Robocop CPC Zone; all other mixes in question have now been voted on and removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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