Draconiator Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 In my desire to improve, I'm coming across this term a lot here at OCR. Thankfully, when I got a judgement thread, I never got the "muddy" crit, but I'm still wondering how to identify it, so I can get rid of it if I hear it. I've gathered from the judges forum, it's when multiple instruments fight for the same space in the sound spectrum, making it sound "mud", but I just need to train my ears to recognize it when I hear it. High-end mud especially. If someone can make something demonstrating that, that would be extremely helpful. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd Cabbage Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 I've seen it referring to what you're talking about - different instruments fighting for the same sonic space, though the more common meaning for "mud" in the world is too much low mids - the heavy unclarity at like 150-400hz. Different instruments fighting for the same space is called "masking." That being said, like you mentioned, on OCR many people do call masking by the name of muddiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensei Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 An indistinct wall of sound in the low-mid end of the frequency spectrum, generally caused by reverb, multiple instruments fighting for the same frequency, etc. Boost as much as possible with a notch EQ with a reasonably narrow Q, and move it around in the 150-400 Hz area to get a feeling for what it sounds like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidd Cabbage Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 150-400 hz ttttwwwwwiiiiiiinnnnnnssssss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensei Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Sometimes, when I'm feeling really frisky, I go up to 500 Hz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceansAndrew Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Most of the issues I hear that are OCR-specific tend to be at 250hz, but it can vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 It often comes from too much low end on reverb. Just makes it really "blubbityblubbglub" in the low end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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