AngelCityOutlaw Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Like the title says, I'm trying to not suck at metal production or just production in general. So this morning, I created this short loop - composition and performance wise, I wouldn't say it's the best I've ever done, but that's not the point. https://app.box.com/s/uyx1qzxaxh34r35dsl0uvpfldcmam7q6 Basically, how can I make it not sound like crap? Garpocalypse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Have ya seen this topic? =P http://ocremix.org/community/topic/37172-metal-mixing-a-general-approach/ The drums sound pretty good, actually. I'd say, try not to high pass your guitars too much. They're a little thin, but not bad. Try high passing near around 100 Hz lightly (in FL Studio, use a slope of "2" instead of something like "Steep 4" or "Steep 6"), instead of near 200 Hz, and scooping as I mention in the topic I linked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Have ya seen this topic? =P http://ocremix.org/community/topic/37172-metal-mixing-a-general-approach/ The drums sound pretty good, actually. I'd say, try not to high pass your guitars too much. They're a little thin, but not bad. Try high passing near around 100 Hz lightly (in FL Studio, use a slope of "2" instead of something like "Steep 4" or "Steep 6"), instead of near 200 Hz, and scooping as I mention in the topic I linked. This is giving a specific example for people to lend their advice to and offering multiple perspectives As for the high pass, I actually did high pass them around 130 hz I think, I can try lowering it still and see what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Well yeah. I just wanted to type less. Strategic typing GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Well I updated it, I lowered the high-pass by 30hz with a slope of 2 as you suggested and brought the mids up slightly. I'm not sure if it made a ton of difference, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 What does your bass guitar sound like by itself? I think that's what could be improved. Maybe it's just me, but I think the guitar as-written sounds more "rock" than "metal" because it doesn't reach as low as some of the metal I listen to, and the bass guitar lacks a powerful low end. If you can get a meatier tone to your bass, that would be a great improvement. This could be a good metal reference track for this song; it's pretty similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Not all metal bands tunes to drop Z I can see your point about the bass, though honestly, I don't think a lot of metal actually has a ton of low end as even compared to that Zircon Shreddage demo. I'd say this tune and band might be closer to the style of my track and I don't think the bass is as pronounced even there as Zircon's demonstration is. That being said, I'll try giving the bass more low end or something and see what happens. EDIT: Okay, I've updated it. Bass is bassier and I turned down the mids a bit on the guitars. Let me know if your ears bleed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 I think Shreddage X only went to drop A or something, and Shreddage Bass goes down to drop Bb. Shreddage 2X goes down to drop G, but that wasn't used in the demo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelCityOutlaw Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 I think Shreddage X only went to drop A or something, and Shreddage Bass goes down to drop Bb. Shreddage 2X goes down to drop G, but that wasn't used in the demo. I've never seen the point in tuning much lower than C on a six string or tuning down a seven string. B is plenty sludge. Anyway, I think the track may actually sound slightly better now. Slightly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 What does your bass guitar sound like by itself? It's still indistinct in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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