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*NO* Mario Strikers Charged "The Sidekick's Sidekick (WaLuigi's Grief)"


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Posted (edited)

Artist Name: Craig Jackson

 

The overlooked hero takes center stage. Bluegrass banjo and Broadway-style flair dramatize WaLuigi’s frustrations and hidden ambitions, turning a quirky theme into a theatrical, heartfelt lament.


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Mario Strikers Charged - WaLuigi's Theme

Edited by pixelseph
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Boy, banjo's gonna be tough to arrange. You pretty much need to either keep the bassline persistent or straight up stick to banjo as a lead instrument. Not that I'm expecting that here...

I've definitely heard this AI voice in other AI-generated stuff, so I'm not even sure this would be from Ace Studio AI as much it's from Suno; wouldn't be shocked if it can be found in multiple AI music generators.

Three tracks in a row, this again seems to have the formula of briefly but straightforwardly referencing the VGM, then completely going disconnected from arranging anything from the source theme, not even worth timestamping this time.

The lack of direct source usage & substantive arrangement is an automatic dealbreaker for me.

NO

Checklist:

- Minimal VGM arrangement, mostly unrelated composition
- Any direct VGM arrangement is very straightforward and brief
- Warbly vocals
- Lyrics also feel AI-prompt generated, too on the nose with the rhyming, always extended character meta-narratives
- Staid, limited drum writing
- Dynamics possibly undercut by limiter on volume

Sorry if my perception of this undersells how much actual human-generated content is there, Craig. If I had to bet on it though, this comes across like prompt-generated lyrics and the song structure isn't dynamic enough or connected enough to the original VGM to feel like it's mostly Craig's direct input on this.

I definitely don't want a trend of people sending AI-generated content here, no matter how good it ends up being. The aim is to highlight skill, intention, and creativity with human-created, human-written, human-produced music. When you take human decision-making out of the equation, even if the end result sounds good, it wouldn't be people genuinely creating the music.

Posted

lot of mud in the opening section. vocals are super warbly and have a distorted tone that is an easy tell for ai vocals right now. in general the arrangement is not really based on the original at all, but more the concept of the character. there's also, again, a number of notes that are 2-3x longer than a human could hold. it's a fine original track if you like fake music, but the utter lack of source material means it doesn't have a place here.

 

 

NO

Posted (edited)

Larry already covered the major issues and the lack of source usage is more than enough to prevent this one from passing.

Given this is in direct violation of our Submission Standards, namely 2.3, 7.1, and 7.2:

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And considering you weren't truthful or forthcoming about the usage of prompt-based generative AI tools in the creation of your submissions, I am no longer interested in being polite about them. Unless you plan on honing your craft as a composer, arranger, and mix engineer, shove this slop where the sun don't shine and never darken our digital doorstep again.

NO

Edited by paradiddlesjosh
Posted

Cosigning with my fellow Js.  Cool concept, and the composition and mix sound good enough to do very well on YouTube, Spotify and all the other socials, but for OCR we look for very specific things, including enough source use with thoughtful and creative interpretations, and real musicianship.  While we allow limited use of AI tools to enhance a track, this submission (and the other tracks you submitted on the same day) is far too much AI for our standards. 

If we have misjudged this situation, I'd welcome some real, solid proof that these tracks were made with a lot more human involvement than we are hearing, but my feeling is that such proof cannot be provided.  Best of luck to you with these, you've hopped on a shiny new lucrative bandwagon with these AI tracks, we just don't want to host music like this on OCR.

NO

Posted

As much as I'd like to see the human involvement in this piece or the other submissions by Craig, it is overshadowed by the audacity of submitting an entire album's worth of generative AI slop and lying about how large a role generative AI played in it. I have no pithy comments to make - my fellow judges summed up my feelings pretty well, and there's no need to belabor the point. 

NO. DO NOT resubmit anything using Suno or other such tools again and lie about it.

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