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*NO* Luigi's Mansion "Second Player Syndrome"


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Artist Name: Craig Jackson

 

Luigi’s shadows take the spotlight in this smooth R&B spin. Soulful melodies and gentle grooves explore the overlooked hero’s insecurities, turning playful hauntings into emotional depth.


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Luigi's Mansion - Mansion (Luigi Humming - High Health)

Edited by pixelseph
Posted

The track was 3:09-long, so I needed to hear the VGM used for at least 94.5 seconds to consider the source material dominant.

:05-:14, :16-:19, :22-:23, :26-:28, 1:20-1:22 = 17 seconds or 8.99% source usage

The lack of direct source usage & substantive arrangement is an automatic dealbreaker for me.

NO

Goes for some quasi-Pentatonix vocals this time. Still the same creative formula, though for this one, the second half never circled back to the VGM source tune, even for a small piece. No matter the genre, the tropes end up being the same.

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Checklist:

- Minimal VGM arrangement, mostly unrelated composition
- Any direct VGM arrangement is very straightforward and brief
- Warbly vocals
- Lyrics also feel AI-prompt generated, too on the nose with the rhyming, always extended character meta-narratives
- Staid, limited drum writing
- Dynamics possibly undercut by limiter on volume

Sorry if my perception of this undersells how much actual human-generated content is there, Craig. If I had to bet on it though, this comes across like prompt-generated lyrics and the song structure isn't dynamic enough or connected enough to the original VGM to feel like it's mostly Craig's direct input on this.

I definitely don't want a trend of people sending AI-generated content here, no matter how good it ends up being. The aim is to highlight skill, intention, and creativity with human-created, human-written, human-produced music. When you take human decision-making out of the equation, even if the end result sounds good, it wouldn't be people genuinely creating the music.

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Larry already covered the major issues and the lack of source usage is more than enough to prevent this one from passing.

Given this is in direct violation of our Submission Standards, namely 2.3, 7.1, and 7.2:

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And considering you weren't truthful or forthcoming about the usage of prompt-based generative AI tools in the creation of your submissions, I am no longer interested in being polite about them. Unless you plan on honing your craft as a composer, arranger, and mix engineer, shove this slop where the sun don't shine and never darken our digital doorstep again.

NO

Posted

Cosigning with my fellow Js.  Cool concept, and the composition and mix sound good enough to do very well on YouTube, Spotify and all the other socials, but for OCR we look for very specific things, including enough source use with thoughtful and creative interpretations, and real musicianship.  While we allow limited use of AI tools to enhance a track, this submission (and the other tracks you submitted on the same day) is far too much AI for our standards. 

If we have misjudged this situation, I'd welcome some real, solid proof that these tracks were made with a lot more human involvement than we are hearing, but my feeling is that such proof cannot be provided.  Best of luck to you with these, you've hopped on a shiny new lucrative bandwagon with these AI tracks, we just don't want to host music like this on OCR.

NO

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As much as I'd like to see the human involvement in this piece or the other submissions by Craig, it is overshadowed by the audacity of submitting an entire album's worth of generative AI slop and lying about how large a role generative AI played in it. I have no pithy comments to make - my fellow judges summed up my feelings pretty well, and there's no need to belabor the point. 

NO. DO NOT resubmit anything using Suno or other such tools again and lie about it.

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