dannthr Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 All I can say, bro, is that it sounded fine to me and if the true complaint is that the snare is "over-used" as a sound, give it a different sound. Personally, I'd dig a thicker snare sound myself, but that alone wouldn't have made me (were I a judge) deny your entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 They had other complaints as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJT Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 david, as i said earlier, the snare isn't a deal breaker for me. at all. the biggest problem with the track is how dense and cluttered things get. applying lots of compression isn't going to help that much. i would work on eq'ing and panning the various elements in the busy sections so that it's easy to tell what's supposed to be in the foreground, and what's supposed to be in the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Posted September 10, 2007 Author Share Posted September 10, 2007 You're right, of course. The main problem here is I suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaMatic Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 im still kind of new to the whole mixing game, but from what Ive heard...your mix sounds pretty pro. Nice job guy. Sorry it got rejected. These judges must be pretty strict. Gee, it sounded great to me. (just wanted to put in my two cents) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 These judges must be pretty strict. You said it. I agree my song could be better, that rejecting it was the right thing to do, and that it's not quite up to schnucks, but I don't know how to make it so. I can try pulling the levers and spinning the knobs, but it usually ends up being worse rather than better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJT Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 i'll try and spell things out a little more for you. the busy sections are cluttered, so here's what you do. 1) REMOVE ELEMENTS THAT ARE CLUTTERING THE MIX 2) EQ THE REMAINING ELEMENTS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT CROWDING THE SAME FREQUENCIES 3) ADJUST THE PANNING At 2:07, what am I supposed to be listening to? the guitar, the strings, or the brass? they're all inhabiting the same space in the stereofield, and roughly the same frequency range. At about 2:55, a synth horn takes up the melody, but it's competing with the guitar, which is way up front, the backing strings, which are occupying the same frequency range, and a solo string line which is panned close to everything else. It's chaotic There's no quick fix for this. It takes a lot of time and experimentation to learn the finer points of production, especially when you have a mix as dense as this one is. I wish I could give you a bunch of tips like "drop a highpass filter at X frequency range etc etc etc" but I am not that gifted as a recording engineer. EDIT: One thing I forgot to add. When you're eq'ing 95% of the time you want to CUT frequencies as opposed to boosting them. I didn't figure that one out for awhile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 LOL, I'm sorry for being an idiot, JJT, but that last post might actually be just what I needed to hear. This is going to take a long time though. Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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