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Oy. Been working like a dog on these eps. Sorry for the delay in releasing #44 (featuring a plethora of interviews and some kickass muzak). Check out the Ormgas.com playlist and give it the hits. The "Currently Available Episodes" thread features other available VGF material you can check out.
Thanks a lot to everyone who called in, as well as those who tuned in. We hit some annoying as shit snags early this season, but definitely went out strong for the final live episode of the semester, and I really appreciate it.
Be sure to DL the episode (216MB / 5hr15min) & the chat transcript (THANK YOU, Antonio Pizza, for saving my ass there), which should be available throughout the holiday season and make for great stocking stuffers.
I sincerely hope you have an opportunity to download the episode and sample what I felt was an exceptional tracklist. Please drop some comments on the material, and I hope you enjoy.
VG Frequency #44: Dragon Fourior War
Larry Oji - WMRE (Emory University Student Radio; Atlanta, GA)
Saturday, December 11, 2004 / 10 PM - 3:15 AM EST
Liontamer f/NoWave, Joecam, Beatdrop, DCT, Koala & Darangen
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1. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "Prologue" [breath of Fire V OST]
2. Protricity - Lords of the Realm 2 "The Siege of Kenilworth Castle" [OC ReMix #1279]
3. Nixdorux - Super CastleVania 4 "Shaolin's Cave" [VGMix2 #2875]
4. Ryan8bit - Dragon Warrior 4 "The Grief of Aktemto" [Dwelling of Duels: Free Month (June 2004) / VGMix2 #1782 / OC ReMix #1281]
5. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "Middle Layer Area" [breath of Fire V OST]
6. Tenpei Sato - "Legend of the Light Goddess" [la Pucelle AST]
7. NoWave - "Nancy Thompson Gravewatch" [http://www.soundclick.com/nowave]
8. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "A Moment of Joy" [breath of Fire V OST]
9. NoWave freezes outside while he lays out the info on "Nancy Thompson Gravewatch", the Secret of Evermore remix "Secrets Abound", Larry's crappy pronunciation, an upcoming 'goth-hop' project, the story behind his band's name "Vurtflesh", his album project for Hellven's Auld Lang Sine contest "Invisible", the creativity of Warren Ellis, and his enjoyment of zykO's recent album "bipolar me" [http://www.soundclick.com/nowave]
10. TO - Secret of Mana "Hypnotic Fag" [The People's Remix Competition v2-4]
11. Ailsean & Joecam - "The One That You Love" [http://www.joecam.net & http://www.oneupstudios.com/music/ailsean.php]
12. Crazy Crakaz (Joshua Morse & Joecam) - Alien Hominid "I Want the Fuckin' Game" [OneUp Studios Alien Hominid Remix Contest]
13. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "The More You Dig" [breath of Fire V OST]
14. Joecam's chillin' with Livewire while he spouts off on impending VICTOLY!!~ in the OneUp Studios Alien Hominid Remix Contest, the virtues of attending FAGFest, attempting to enlist in Hellven and his rise in the community as a vocalist, getting to know DJ Potatoe, the Crazy Crakaz’ involvement in the DJ Potatoe Super Collection with "Funk Out", thoughts on Joshua Morse being cut from OneUp Studios and Josh's pending Nintendo album project, teaming the Crackaz with virt's alter ego MC Nachbar, the glacial progress on the Crakaz’ PaRappa the Rapper mix, completing his Alien Hominid remix trilogy, and the crud that was "Hail to the Chief" [http://www.joecam.net]
15. Beatdrop - "Analog Meat Grinder (Been Sharpened Mix)" [Everlast]
16. Beatdrop - "Frigga" [Everlast]
17. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "Bio Public Corporation" [breath of Fire V OST]
18. Beatdrop awakens from frigid slumber long enough to tell us about how he fell asleep in his driveway, the story behind "Frigga", the layout for the 2-disc album "Everlast", his album project for Hellven's Auld Lang Sine contest, composition work and project development for the upcoming DDR-inspired game "Dance Trax", and remix releases for the near future [http://www.beatdrop.tk]
19. Jurek Raben - Lightforce "Supernerd Lightforce Mix" [R:K:O #2512]
20. Tony Montana f/Erin - "Time to Go" [http://urbanizm.thebigshot.com]
21. Skrybe - "The Message" [http://urbanizm.thebigshot.com]
22. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "Lift" [breath of Fire V OST]
23. DCT details how and why he started up Urbanizm Music, the recruitment of members for the group, working hard to up his production skills, hoping to get the attention of others in the hip-hop community like Roc-A-Fella Records, getting banned from VGMix, what's in his plans for Joshua Morse's Nintendo album project, hanging with McVaffe (the dream of many), audio school and the potential connections there, and upcoming Urbanizm & vocal blend work [http://www.thebigshot.com]
24. zircon - Final Fantasy 6 "A Nightmare Before Kefka" [VGMix2 #2894]
25. Sefiros - Sonic the Hedgehog 1 "The End of the Beginning" [symphonic Evil / VGMix2 #2864]
26. Maarten Bakker - Super Mario All-Stars "3 Views on Mario" [VGMix2 #2887]
27. Uboichi - Killer Instinct 1 "The Wolf of the Opera" [OC ReMix #1282]
28. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "Industrial Area" [breath of Fire V OST]
29. Koala is bakin' a cake (gimme fudge cake!), but takes time out to pimp the excitement of FAGFest, the legend of DJ Potatoe, the lameness of punkass DDR fans, the DJ Potatoe Super Collection, and her take (and resolution) on "unnamed controversial internet disputes" [http://luvmekoala.deviantart.com]
30. The Number Sixes - Final Fantasy 6 "The Road to Narshe" [VGMix2 #2869]
31. Ambient - Secret of Mana "Gaia de Caribe" [The People's Remix Competition v2-4]
32. Goolancer - Persona 2 "Demon Sweatshop" [VGMix2 #2886]
33. Zuntata - "The Sea ~ Il mare" [Garakuta Masterpiece Theater: Rakugaki Oukoku OST]
34. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "Symptom" [breath of Fire V OST]
35. Darangen helps Larry break down the recently played tracks, warns the innocent consumers on the evil Arby's oven mitts, and goes over the advantages of VGMix over OC ReMix, appreciation for Crimson & Ryan8bit's Dwelling of Duels, the influence of RPGs on his remixing work, getting into the remixing community, how remixing improved his production work & his craft as a musician, the story behind his recent Chrono Trigger mix "The Fall of Zeal", and pending remix works including holiday material & a revamping of the Lufia mix "To Hold You Again" [http://www.geocities.com/darangenmb]
36. tefnek & zircon - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 4 "Waste Water Wipeout" [OC ReMix #1280]
37. Juha Kaunisto - Zoids 1 "Zoids Revisited" [R:K:O #2513]
38. Quinn Fox - Sega Rally 1 "Solace in Second" [VGMix2 #2897]
39. Sir Nuts - Secret of Mana "Chromatic Mixture" [The People's Remix Competition v2-4]
40. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "Abandoned Commerce Area" [breath of Fire V OST]
41. BrainCells, No Remorse & Manoel Taveira - "Strength Beyond Strength" [http://www.querohardware.com]
42. Dissolution - "The Warlock" [http://www.dissolutionmusic.com]
43. Dissolution - "Distorted Vision" [http://www.dissolutionmusic.com]
44. Lix - Ys 6 "Mighty Obstacle" [Levo Lution XII]
45. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "The Way That Should Be" [breath of Fire V OST]
46. Kaijin - "Moments" [http://www.timsheehy.com]
47. Rexy - Sonic & Knuckles "Tomorrow's Wake" [VGMix2 #2831]
48. Quinn Fox - NiGHTS into Dreams... "Santa's Jester" [http://quinn.50g.com]
49. Masashi Hamauzu - "Chocobo's Happy Christmas" [Chocobo no Fushigina Dungeon OST]
50. Hitoshi Sakimoto - "A Small Departure" [breath of Fire V OST]
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VGF #39 generally covers the goings on from Oct. 31st to Nov. 6th. You can also check out the playlist at my Ormgas.com forum and leave comments. For a very limited time, pick up a copy at my webspace (103MB / 2hr30min).
VG Frequency #39: Derivative Gameplay
Larry Oji - WMRE (Emory University Student Radio; Atlanta, GA)
Monday, December 13, 2004 / 4:45 - 7:15 AM EST
Liontamer
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1. Tomohito Nishiura - "Premonition of Something Going to Happen" [Dark Cloud 2 OST]
2. Mazedude - The 7th Guest "Dolls from Hell [OC ReMix #1263]
3. CarboHydroM - Pop'n Twinbee "Point of No Return" [VGMix2 #2633]
4. Ellywu2 - Final Fantasy 6 "Devil's Flava" [VGMix2 #2634]
5. DarkeSword - Megaman X4 "The Father of All" [VGMix2 #2652]
6. Shane Barnes - Double Dragon 2 "Shadow Warrior Showdown: Where Dragons Dare" [Dwelling of Duels: Double Dragon / VGMix2 #2635]
7. Tomohito Nishiura - "Underground Water Channel" [Dark Cloud 2 OST]
8. Chikayo Fukuda, Seizo Nakata & Norikatsu Fukuda - "staff4" [.hack//Game Music Perfect Collection OST]
9. Kadmium - Final Fantasy 7 "The Chosen" [VGMix2 #2621]
10. Nixdorux - Super Mario Bros. 1 "Mario Rhapsody" [VGMix2 #2654]
11. Tomohito Nishiura - "The Battle" [Dark Cloud 2 OST]
12. Ryan8bit - Double Dragon 3 & Double Dragon 2 "Four Cryptic Stones" [Dwelling of Duels: Double Dragon / VGMix2 #2653]
13. Dennis Mott - CastleVania 3 "Gears and Ghouls" [Dwelling of Duels: Clockwork / VGMix2 #2643]
14. goat - CastleVania 3 "Scale the Machine" [unchosen Paths / Dwelling of Duels: Clockwork / VGMix2 #2638]
15. Binster - X-Out "LiquidX" [VGMix2 #62 / OC ReMix #1264]
16. Tomohito Nishiura - "Sindain" [Dark Cloud 2 OST]
17. Eminem f/DCT - "Just Lose It (G-Stone Mix)" [http://www.thebigshot.com]
18. Joshua Morse f/Anthony Lofton - "Citified" [http://urbanizm.thebigshot.com]
19. Noir - Super Metroid & Metroid Prime 1 "Violent Ivory in Lower Norfair" [VGMix2 #2629]
20. Infamous - The Legend of Zelda 1 "Zeldustrial" [VGMix2 #2619]
21. Tomohito Nishiura - "Tree Spirit Jurak" [Dark Cloud 2 OST]
22. Protricity - Double Dragon 2 "Mean Streak on Main Street [OC ReMix #1265]
23. Nixdorux - Super Mario World 1 "Ghost" [VGMix2 #2129 / OC ReMix #1262]
24. Beatdrop - System Shock 2 "cy-AMP" [VGMix2 #2656]
25. Tomohito Nishiura - "Red-Haired Girl" [Dark Cloud 2 OST]
26. GrayLightning - Ecco the Dolphin 1 (Sega CD) "Eternal Abyss" [OC ReMix #1261 / VGMix2 #2775]
27. Black Wave Digital Music - "Menu Screen" [Apocalyptica OSV]
28. NoWave - "Take Care of Me" [Original Remix Competition 7]
29. Tomohito Nishiura - "The Dark Battle" [Dark Cloud 2 OST]
30. Vurez - Megaman 6 "Rising Sun Warrior" [VGMix2 #2637]
31. zircon - "Autumn Beauty" [illusion OST]
32. zircon - "Phantom Omen" [illusion OST]
33. Noriko Matsueda - "Dolphin" [PlayOnline Viewer OSV]
34. Quinn Fox - Phantasy Star 2 "Neistar" [VGMix2 #2587]
35. Tomohito Nishiura - "Secret Conversation" [Dark Cloud 2 OST]
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VGF #37 generally covers the goings on from Oct. 17th to the 23rd. You can also check out the playlist at my Ormgas.com forum and leave comments. Get on your knees and beg me for a copy sometime.
VG Frequency #37: It Wasn't the Music
Larry Oji - WMRE (Emory University Student Radio; Atlanta, GA)
Sunday, December 12, 2004 / 10:45 PM - 1:20 AM EST
Liontamer
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1. Yuzo Koshiro - "Follow Wind" [Adventure Island OST]
2. The Coop - Thunder Force 3 "Descent to the End" [VGMix2 #2203]
3. Mythril Nazgul - Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon "Moonlit Tango" [Anime Remix #44]
4. Jean of mArc - Darkwing Duck "Fly Me to the Bridge" [VGMix2 #2336]
5. Ellywu2 - Sonic the Hedgehog 3 "Global Warming" [VGMix2 #2541]
6. Yuzo Koshiro - "Blue Blue Moon" [Adventure Island OST]
7. Scott Peeples - Doom 1 "Contamination" [VGMix2 #2310]
8. Beatdrop - Battle Clash "Clash of the Titans" [VGMix2 #2544]
9. Toshikazu Tanaka - "Requiem for 50,000 People" [KOF Maximum Impact OST]
10. CarboHydroM - Duke Nukem 3D "Nuklear Duke" [VGMix2 #2259]
11. Yuzo Koshiro - "Big Zen" [Adventure Island OST]
12. Krispy - Donkey Kong Country 1 "Deep Blue" [VGMix2 #2557]
13. David Bergeaud - "Distribution Facility ~Planet Smolg~" [Ratchet & Clank 2 OSV]
14. Unknown & zircon - Chrono Trigger "When All Hope Has Faded" [VGMix2 #2014 / OC ReMix #1258]
15. Yuzo Koshiro - "Ice Groove" [Adventure Island OST]
16. Ryan8bit - Ikari Warriors 2 "Death of a Dancing Queen" [Dwelling of Duels: Military Games / VGMix2 #2542]
17. Ashane f/Ryan8bit, Bethampetamine, House the Grate & Norrin Radd - Chrono Trigger "Zealous Entropy" [Dwelling of Duels: Free Month (September 2004) / VGMix2 #2556]
18. Yuzo Koshiro - "Jungle Chase" [Adventure Island OST]
19. DarK PurPLe - Tetris 1 "The Tetris Megamix" [VGMix2 #2537]
20. Selecta Novel - SimCity 2000 "Beats of SimCity" [VGMix2 #2354]
21. Ambient - Shadowrun "Shadow Hustle" [The People's Remix Competition v2-1]
22. Druids of the City - "Soldier of Fortune" [Druids of the City]
23. Yuzo Koshiro - "Darkside Visitor" [Adventure Island OST]
24. zykO - "harder to breathe (extended)" [http://www.zykomusik.com]
25. Joshua Morse - Final Fantasy 7 "Facing Destiny" [VGMix2 #2511]
26. Druids of the City - "Xilies Siwpes" (a.k.a. 'Thousand Silences') [Druids of the City]
27. Yuzo Koshiro - "The Island of Everlasting Summer" [Adventure Island OST]
28. DarkeSword - Metroid Prime 1 "Just a Little More (Prime Edit)" [VGMix2 #2546 / OC ReMix #1286]
29. Nixdorux - The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time "Ride of Link" [VGMix2 #2550]
30. Unknown - Chrono Trigger "Predetermination" [VGMix2 #2532]
31. Yuzo Koshiro - "Hop Step and Jazzy Beats" [Adventure Island OST]
32. TO - Shadowrun "Elevator to Hell" [The People's Remix Competition v2-1]
33. Bladiator - Kirby's Dream Land 1 "Chopinesque Kirby" [VGMix2 #2464 / OC ReMix #1257]
34. Motoaki Furukawa - F-1 Spirit 3D Special "Quiero Voar" [Kukeiha Club AST]
35. zykO - "falling into a cold stare" [bipolar me]
36. Yuzo Koshiro - "Hawaiian" [Adventure Island OST]
37. Yuzo Koshiro - "Break (Scratched)" [Adventure Island OST]
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I only heard some light ambiance and effects added to this one compared to the first version we judged. It does fill some stuff out a bit more, but that's not really a reason to resubmit. Everything else is the same.
With an issue I mentioned last time, if 2:17-2:58 didn't come off as so unstructured (especially during the fadeout), I'd be willing to YES this. You do in fact provide a good amount of variation in the forefront while retaining the same percussion foundation most of the way. However, retaining the exact same beat the whole is not something many submissions can quite pull off.
2:17-2:58 left the repetitive percussion patterns too exposed. I wasn't really agreeing with zyko on the arrangement not going anywhere until that point, and the lead synth there attempts to freestyle on top of the arrangement but comes across as too aimless. Sorry, bro, but I would have to hear some revisions for the last minute to secure a YES. Altering the drums there wouldn't have to be an overhaul that would ruin the concept of the track. Just something subtle. The Pro Wrestling melody and the drums for that last section are just too repetitive for the track in the big picture.
It's a catchy track though, Mattias, and a quality homage, believe me. I genuinely enjoyed it. Though I'd like to hear more done with this, post it to VGMix if you're not willing to work on this any longer. Otherwise, hit up the WIP forum here and resubmit.
NO
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Wow. Still going. That's sick.
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Don't forget DCT & Joecam on VGF later tonight!
VGF #36 generally covers the goings on from Oct. 10th to the 16th. Hit the playlist at my Ormgas.com forum and leave comments. Download it (84.7MB/2hr3min) at my webspace for a very limited time, along with picking up the chat transcript.
VG Frequency #36: Unsurpassed Efficacy
Larry Oji - WMRE (Emory University Student Radio; Atlanta, GA)
Friday, December 10, 2004 / 4 - 6:03 PM EST
Liontamer
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1. OverCoat - VG Frequency "Ruuski Ragtime" Bumper
2. Takayuki Iwai - "Who'll Be Your Double?" [street Fighter Zero 3 OST]
3. Ziwtra - Terranigma "Blue (Shooting Star Mix)" [OC ReMix #1251]
4. Strike911 - "Deep Neo-Celtic" [http://www.musicv2.com/artist/strike911]
5. OverCoat - VG Frequency "You're A Freq" Bumper
6. OverCoat - Deus Ex "Technical" [VGMix2 #2500]
7. Isao Abe - "Shining One" [street Fighter Zero 3 OST]
8. Sefiros - Silent Hill 4 "16121" [VGMix2 #2355]
9. Quinn Fox - NiGHTS into Dreams... "Somewhat Beautiful" [VGMix2 #2487]
10. Christian Pacaud - Final Fantasy 6 "The White Knight" [VGMix2 #2473]
11. Takayuki Iwai - "Wild Nature" [street Fighter Zero 3 OST]
12. zykO - "see you cry (that's why)" [bipolar me]
13. Corran - Super Mario RPG "Trance Forest Maze" [VGMix2 #2430]
14. ParagonX9 - Super Mario 64 "The Alternate Route" [OC ReMix #1252]
15. Yuki Iwai - "No More Swingin'" [street Fighter Zero 3 OST]
16. zircon - "Righteous Fury" [illusion OST]
17. OverCoat - VG Frequency "Sucka DJ" Bumper
18. Gecko Yamori - Sonic CD (Japan) "Work It (RetroHouse Mix)" [VGMix2 #2502]
19. JD Harding - Super CastleVania 4 "Simon" [VGMix2 #2453]
20. Alexander Prievert - Unreal "Stratosphere" [VGMix2 #2491]
21. Yuki Iwai - "Crimson" [street Fighter Zero 3 OST]
22. Kadmium - Donkey Kong Country 2 "No More Roses" [VGMix2 #2470]
23. CarboHydroM - Final Fantasy 7 "Fight On [VGMix2 #2025 / OC ReMix #1253]
24. OverCoat - VG Frequency "¡Olé! ¿Spanish?" Bumper
25. zykO - "remember me tommorow" [bipolar me]
26. Hideki Okugawa - "High-Tech" [street Fighter Zero 3 OST]
27. OverCoat - VG Frequency "Pantsu" Bumper
28. Goemon Production Team - "Goe Goe Spark (Musical Castle Last Half)" [Ganbare Goemon ~ New Dance of the Momoyama Shogunate OST]
29. Rie Akagi - Genso Suikoden 1 "Avertuneiro Antes Lance Mao ~The Battle Has Ended~" [Genso Suikoden Ongakushu Produced by Kentaro Haneda AST]
30. Michiel Van Den Bos - "UNATCO" [Deus Ex: Game of the Year Edition OST]
31. Isao Abe - "Active Red" [street Fighter Zero 3 OST]
32. Rayza - Street Fighter 2 "Club Del Toro" [OC ReMix #1254]
33. Palpable - Legend of the Mystical Ninja "Oedo Hop" [OC Remix #1255]
34. Adhesive Boy - Donkey Kong Country 1 "Cry of the Chasmal Critter Chain" [Kong in Concert / VGMix2 #2265 / OC ReMix #1256]
35. Takayuki Iwai - "Daybreak" [street Fighter Zero 3 OST]
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Original decision: http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=47578
ReMixer Info:Screen Name: Fusion2004
Real Name: Mark Oleson
Public email: fusion2004p@yahoo.com
Website: http://www.fusion2004p.com
Userid: 7647
ReMix Info:
Game: Chrono Trigger
Song: Schala's Theme
Comments: I never really meant my first submission to be an overly used song like Schala's Theme, but when you get musical inspiration you just kinda go with it. Its done in an Orchestral/Techno hyrbrid kinda thingy if you know what I mean. Once I got into it, I sort of leaned toward the style of zircon's Calamitous Judgment.
I tried to fix most, and hopefully all, of the problems described by the judges. I first made an entirely new drumbeat and then expanded upon it 'n stuff. I changed the "sax or whatever that was at :57" as it was called to a better sounding woodwind section. New lead synth, and replaced the bell thingies to another synth. New intro thing at teh beginning, then followed by teh old intro and the rest of the song.
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Hey, bros! Compyfox gave me permission to link to a hosted copy of the VGF43 Aftershow (1hr36min/66.2MB). Be sure to check it out for fun with Joecam and crew including lots of good (and bad) tracks, and make sure to tune in next week for more Joecam goodness as he comes on the air for an interview. Thanks a lot to Roland for recording the aftershow, doing a great job of mastering it and hosting for the peeps!
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http://www.snesmusic.org/spcsets/ff6.rsn - "Celes" (ff6-122.spc)
The recording indeed struck me as needing improvement. I don't like muddy solo piano pieces where many of the notes and chords mash together. Lengthy sustain can be ok, but I need more clarity than this. Call it a character flaw, but these aren't negligible issues to me, and I typically won't accept pieces like that. Heavily sustained and/or reverbed sounds can work in moderation, but I felt that some tracks, like this one and Etude for Piano in F# Minor, can go overboard with the ideas .
The arrangement is alright. Somewhat conservative on the surface, but subtlely interpretive things are going on here upon closer inspection. I would have appreciated some room being made for the arrangement of 1:08-1:27 of the actual source tune. In any case, I thought the development, as it were, was too simple and cyclical. The track does its thing from :00-1:45 and then basically repeats itself from 1:45-3:07 with little notable change.
Going into the second iteration of the "Celes" theme, the escalation of volume at 2:20 really didn't work here, since the piece just retread it steps. Pretty anti-climactic. I wasn't jarred by the change into the more active section starting at 3:07, but felt that the gradual transition from 2:57-3:06 was very unstructured and didn't work effectively in making that move. Also, perhaps incorporate that section and similar ideas to that ealier on in the composition. I could see why Vigilante felt more could be done with this mix in length and certainly dynamics. This doesn't have to be bombastic to be engaging, mind you, but this was still pretty tedious I would agree.
Also, I don't mind a subtle close as opposed to something with more overt resolution, but the ending from 3:38-3:58 seemed to consist of fairly random notes that just sputtered out as the finish. I see the attempt at keeping things moody and sombre, but this was still a pretty lackluster conclusion.
Christian's a skilled pianist, and I'm certainly glad to know he'll be involved with Xenogears Light over at OneUp Studios. I feel like this could pass with just a bit more thought regarding the sustain levels, compositional variation and dynamics. Afraid I can't go for this as is quite yet, but I hope you'll contemplate going for a resubmisssion, Chris. You'll be on here yet.
NO (revise & resubmit)
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Great show last weekend, if I may say so myself. Thanks very much to everyone for tuning in, as well as the many callers who livened up the experience. Thanks to Compyfox for providing the MP3 of Trenthian's interview. Anytime you have the after-show, feel free to send it here. I never record those, so it'll be a good bonus!
Thanks to Antonio Pizza for the luck last week as I really needed it badly. I'll need more this week as I start finals, and I wish all you collegiate types out there the best of luck as your spirit is broken by finals. I hope to pick myself back up next week in order to have DCT, Joecam & Koala on the air, and the music will be bueno per the usual.
Be ready for some extra shows this coming Saturday, Sunday & Monday, as I make the push to complete all of my make-up shows and get all of the missed material out there. Here's hoping the webstream stays good. Even if not, I'll be sure to at least have MP3 releases planned.
Enjoy this week's IRC chat transcript as well as the 151MB/3hr40min episode! Here's the playlist:
VG Frequency #43: Verbal Battle 87
Larry Oji - WMRE (Emory University Student Radio; Atlanta, GA)
Saturday, December 4, 2004 / 9:20 PM - 1 AM EST
Liontamer f/D-Lux, Aurora, DarkeSword, Joshua Morse & Trenthian
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1. Suzumebachi - VG Frequency "One More Time For The Vox" Bumper
2. Yoko Shimomura - "Main Theme" [Parasite Eve OST]
3. Patrick Wagstaff - Final Fantasy 10-2 "Fall - The Memory of Wind" [VGMix2 #2809]
4. DJ Crono - Megaman 3 "Meinde Fik Hunden" [VGMix2 #2839]
5. NoWave - "Mental Transference" [http://www.soundclick.com/nowave]
6. Hiroki Kikuta - "Silence" [soukaigi OST]
7. Reuben Kee - Final Fantasy 7 "Ascension to Cosmo Canyon" [VGMix2 #2747]
8. RushJet1 - "Dementia" [http://www.rushjet1.tk]
9. D-Lux, host of VGM: Very Good Music, calls in for a VERBAL BATTLE! [http://rockbottomdlux.freewebspace.com]
10. Yoko Shimomura - "Across the View" [Parasite Eve OST]
11. Star Salzman - Super Street Fighter 2 "Fei Longer" [VGMix2 #2387 / OC ReMix #1278]
12. The Double Dragons - Super Double Dragon "The Journey's End" [VGMix #2664]
13. Dennis Mott - CastleVania 2 "Cursed Bloodline" [VGMix2 #2811]
14. Homie - Silver Surfer "Norrin Follin" [VGMix2 #2657]
15. Star Salzman - "I Got Balke's Magic Wand" [OneUp Studios Perfect Strangers Remix Competition]
16. Yoko Shimomura - "A Piece Remains" [Parasite Eve OST]
17. Aurora's all about icebreakers, weather balloons, baby seal-eating polar bears, birthday follies sans karoke, and how VGF is the best; she also sheds light on her collaborative efforts so far with The Wingless & SuperGreenX and her hope to provide vocals for a Rayza mix, gives an open call for others to request her vocal talents on new remix projects, and plugs the OCR UnMod Toronto get-together next week [http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~umfisico]
18. DarkeSword provides us the status on the Kirby's Adventure Remix Collaboration Project, gives a plug for Moves, shares how laptops and tired professors don't mix, goes over the flurry of tracks he's released this month, mentions DCT getting on virt & TrueStar's bad side, and reacts to Joshua Morse being fired from OneUp Studios [http://www.darkesword.com]
19. Joshua Morse - Megaman 8 "Aquatication" [http://www.joshuamorse.com]
20. Dale North - "Perfectly Strange" [OneUp Studios Perfect Strangers Remix Competition]
21. Disposer - Megaman 8 "Select GEO" [http://www.diggidis.com]
22. Daniel Baranowsky, Vigilante & zykO - Earthworm Jim 2 "Invertebrate Retreat" [OC ReMix #1277 / VGMix2 #2386]
23. Just Us - "Sweet Butterfly" [http://justus.thebigshot.com]
24. Yoko Shimomura - "Force Trail" [Parasite Eve OST]
25. Joshua Morse joins in, and nobody is safe from the "power of the Morse"; Josh goes over the fallout of him being let go from OneUp Studios, the humor of how he ended up offending people on the OneUp boards, the work he wants to do within DCT's new group Urbanizm Music, personalities he doesn't get along with around OneUp, his refusal to submit any more material to OCR, the soon-to-be redesigned JoshuaMorse.com, his overview of the plans for the OneUp Nintendo album and how they fell out of priority for Xenogears Light, rough plans for upcoming remix releases including his dropped Megaman 8 remix project & his intended tracks for the OneUp Nintendo album, thoughts on the splendor of Joecam, and a Chrono Trigger remix with Dale North that's in stasis; "Keep Morse-ing 'em, dawg!" [http://www.joshuamorse.com]
26. Norio "NON" Hanzawa - "John Mk-2" [Rakugaki Showtime OSV]
27. Leif Taylor - "Jacqueline" [http://www.shellshockede.com/leiftaylor]
28. Leif Taylor - "Dramatico" [http://www.shellshockede.com/leiftaylor]
29. Trenthian - "Zelda Reflux Disorder" [OneUp Studios Perfect Strangers Remix Competition]
30. Yoko Shimomura - "Consensus" [Parasite Eve OST]
31. Trenthian is planning on rolling in dough courtesy of winning the OneUp Studios Perfect Strangers Remix Competition; John breaks out the vocal skills, and takes us through the ideas of creating "Zelda Reflux Disorder", how many instruments he plays, details behind his new Suikoden OC ReMix "Cliff the Great Crusader" including Compyfox's production work, how he never wants to and never thinks he will be rejected by the judges' panel, and the low-down on his extensive list of potential upcoming remixes along with original material while incurring the judging wrath of Larry; Trent wraps up by pointing out how Compyfox should indeed get back in the remixing game, closing the book on the OneUp Studios Perfect Strangers Remix Competition, admitting that Protricity, Star Salzman & The Wingless don't like him, expressing his jealousy over missing the OCR West summer trip, and giving Larry a hot request [http://www.soundclick.com/trenthian]
32. Alexander Prievert - Final Fantasy 11 "Eternal Memory" [VGMix2 #2814]
33. Lagerfeldt - Battle Ships "U-64" [R:K:O #2502]
34. Yoko Shimomura - "Under the Progress" [Parasite Eve OST]
35. Kouta Takahashi - "Naked Glow" [R4: Ridge Racer Type 4 OSV]
36. Rellik - "Descent" [Aura & Omen]
37. jdproject - "Down and Around" [Crowd Re-Enactment]
38. Malcos - "Elusive Love" [http://www.malcos.co.uk]
39. Corran - "Thane of Megiddo" [City of the King]
40. MaJIN_SaN & Akitsu - "Miss You Most Baby" [http://www.angelfire.com/magic/muumuu_dashiki.com]
41. Leifo - "Through My Eyes" [http://www.leifo.com]
42. Yoko Shimomura - "Someone Calls Me... Someone Looks for Me..." [Parasite Eve OST]
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Rich got back to me yesterday afternoon with the source tune, which I've tagged and hosted. Since I'm busy with finals, I have yet to thoroughly check it out and compare it to the submission. Nonetheless, I've made what I feel is a sufficiently informed decision on it. Believe me, I'll be getting back to it in depth at a later time to point out notable differences between the two tracks as well as things I liked about this one.
The structure of run.dll's mix is obviously similar to Tom Bible's version. As far as remixes go, run.dll's mix is distinguishable enough from Bible's. If I had to make the judgement call on whether run.dll's version is a mere remix or substantial rearrangement compared to Tom Bible's version, I would say it's a remix and NO on those grounds. If you wanted to ignore everything below and save yourself the trouble, you could indeed cast a NO and it really wouldn't need more explanation than that it needs more rearrangement and less shared structure & samples.
In this unique circumstance, however, the in-game music is the remix, while the submission here is the original track that inspired the game music. I'm gonna bring up this analogy early and leave you guys to run with it. If John Williams sent in a track one day saying "Someone used a remix of my work in 'Shadows of the Empire' on the N64, so I'd like to submit my original track as a remix," we would reject it. As far as I understand it however (and we could get verification if necessary), Rich & Paul's original track that they're submitting as a remix of Judge Dredd game music has not been used in any commericial ventures.
Likewise, if we went the anti-Tetris route like Binnie has done before (and like I personally agreed with), you could argue that the in-game music is derived from work that wasn't created for a game and isn't technically identifiable as original game music, thus not being valid source material according to the site.
Frankly, even though the book says we should reject, if we can be flexible on our standards and guidelines for Tetris, we can also be flexible on this even more unique situation, especially since it's almost certainly bound never to repeat itself. Believe me, I know the rules and understand that my vote's pretty much flies in the face of them. Even if you were able to accept this under a "Tetris exception", the arrangement itself may not be different enough to merit an admittedly generous YES. Nonetheless, I hope to at least promote a healthy dialogue for this vote, much like was done with "Sweet Games". Find someone else to NO this, please.
YES
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Ryan actually PM'ed me about two hours before djp posted the mix, finally getting back to me on the e-mail that I sent him. I wanted to make sure his views on the judging of the mix were there for the judges panel and fans to check out.
I hope that Ryan, along with everyone else, has no problem with me making these comments public, as I think his comments are very informative for those out there who are interested in this very split decision.
Hey, well, I got home and checked the judges decisions panel and saw that apparently I've messaged you quite a bit late as my "Grief of Aktemto" mix has already been accepted.I checked the critiques and I tried to work on some of the things the judges said (and I must say I was surprised to see some great constructive criticism... it's probably because half of the judges are different since I last submitted here, but I used to not get as many good comments). But after tinkering with the song for an hour or two, I didn't really notice any substantial difference. I think some of the issues stem from having to rerecord, and/or get better samples; both of which would take quite a bit of time (and matching the guitar mic setup could be difficult).
And some of Danny's comments, while very helpful, would seem to want resequencing of most all the percussion on top of some of the orchestrated parts. I hadn't really intended on changing a lot of the arrangement aspects because I was mostly fine with it (as were a couple judges, I guess). I realize there are some production issues (only so much I can do in my basement with sub-par equipment), and mainly I was just trying to see what the bar was for the site. I hadn't really intended on resubmitting anything, as I've done that a few times before. But since it was accepted, I guess that's all moot? I'd like to improve future mixes, but to a point I don't want to be a perfectionist and get caught up in lots of technical details. Does that make any sense?
So, I guess I'm content with the song where it's at. I'll definitely keep in mind all said criticisms and I'll surely look into improving dynamics and other things in the future if I submit again (or even just for my regular releases at dod and vgmix).
Sorry to type so much. Thanks.
I wanna extend my congrats to Ryan again for "The Grief of Aktemto" making the grade and bringing some Dwelling of Duels material to the site. I speak for myself alone, but I feel that DoD is a fairly recent, yet very important facet of the remix community that more people should appreciate. With Ryan & Crimson running a high-quality compo, I hope to see more artists there submitting a few tracks this way.
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Remixer name: Darangen
Real name: Michael Boyd
Email: darangen@hotmail.com
Remix Info
Remixed Game: Chrono Trigger
Name of Song: Schala's Theme
Comments:
Resubmitting this. The original judge decisions are at http://www.ocremix.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=46935. This is about as far as I'm willing to change anything on this, so don't ask for another resumbission. Some of the things I've changed include samples, volumes, layers, additional parts, and a new ending that doesn't fade out. As much as I didn't want to change some of the samples, I did anyways (I really wanted that violin sound, it whined, and that's what I wanted). Contrary to popular belief, I meant for the piano to be one of the leading instruments, but I turned that down too since everyone thought it was too loud. I layered some of the instruments so they wouldn't pierce any ears. I added strings, harps, drums, and synths to the middle section where it used to be solo piano as well. And lastly, I took out the fading ending and reworked it. I added some reverb here and there to give it a more spaced out feel too, it may seem to be much, but I wanted to keep a sombre mood. This is as far as I can change things without it losing my original vision.
Hope you all like it this way.
- Michael 'Darangen' Boyd
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I'm definitely satisfied with 6Y here. As I said before when offering this idea, we use it "as long as any NO vote make it clear that they strongly disagree with a mix's passage." It's not enough that a vote simply have some disagreement, but that you actually ask for the additional votes.
We won't always have 12 active judges; since reaching 6 on either side is the aim of these vote extensions when someone's particularly unsure of a mix, let's lock'er up, boys. If Wing or zirc feel like voting, they're welcome by all means. In any situation like this, you're welcome to voice yourself after 6Y or 6N has been reached, but you already get more than a few days courtesy of the extended voting.
This one's certainly resolved to me, and while I didn't vote YES on it, this is nonetheless an enjoyable mix that lots of people out there will enjoy and that we're collectively down with. As far as I know, this is a mix that exposes people to another genre of music not covered on OCR and thereby adds something I feel is important to the site, so thanks to Dan for bringing some house material our way.
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http://www.snesmusic.org/spcsets/ff6.rsn - "Tina" (ff6-201.spc)
There are gamer geeks out there who have said that this theme literally touched their heart. Ugh. I hate Terra's theme. I wish people wouldn't arrange the first part and try out some of the stuff from 1:18-1:50 of the theme in there, but they never do. Not that that section is anything great anyway. The handling of just the Terra melody is too straightforward for my tastes; no one ever takes any genuine risks with it because it's so perfect or whatever. Don't get me wrong, you have cool some delay/echo effects (though it does indeed wear out it's welcome) as well a ton of expansive addtions in instrumentation. Handling this arrangement via the expansion route turned out really well here and, on that level, almost qualifies as something I'd accept as a more straightforward arrangement.
If the production was better (22khz ain't where it should be), the reverb was toned down, and the structure of arrangement had more variation and development, this would have more of a chance. Whatever woodwind sample comes in at 2:00 sounds pretty artificial, so do what you can to address that issue, by the way. The muddiness of the track obscures some of the more delicate sounding elements and messes with the balance of sounds. There was some further building of the theme during the addition iterations at 2:50 & 3:40, but aside from the added instruments there was nothing new in the arrangement. The mix turns out boring about halfway through and unengaging overall as a result. Keep at it, Xerol, and keep improving your game. You're coming along I can hear, but this needs a lot more attention to production as well as crucial work in keeping the arrangement ideas fresh. Just wanted to give some more feedback on the arrangement, so you have a little more to work with.
NO
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Repeat after me, folks...
"We are doing a show tonight."
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I coincidentally also sent an e-mail yesterday. I've actually talked to Rich thanks to Binster's help over at the VGMix chatterbox. He said it may be a little difficult to get a copy of the Tom Bible remix of this song.
Hey, Rich. Dropping you my e-mail so you can provide me with the Tom Bible remix of MCMS used in Judge Dredd vs Death. Sorry if it takes a while to get it. We may still vote on it without the source, but technically don't wanna run into another scenario where we pass a remix that should have been rejected on account of not having the source tune to compare it with (e.g. Cyborg Jeff's F-Zero GX mix - http://vgmix.com/song_view.php?song_id=1214 - we later removed it).Sorry for the formality. In order for this reverse remix thing to work with our standards, it would help to hear how different Tom Bible's remix sounds from yours in the structure and composition. If his version isn't rearranged much, that could technically make your track not different enough from the track used in the game.
I will certainly look around myself to see if anyone else might have any kind of audio rip of music from the game though. Lemme know if you turn up anything. Thanks! - Larry
Because this song is actually the precursor to the source tune, there's a risk that the arranged version of this track used in Dredd vs Death is just a close cover of this I believe. While the sound quality and presentation is good, no one should cast a vote without having heard the source. Over the weekend I may try and see if anyone from the GamingForce Audio forums has a game rip copy of it, but don't have any ideas to get the source beyond that.
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6Y, if y'all don't mind.
I don't mind. However, is everyone going to contest votes they don't like? I don't really feel this is one of those special circumstances. This one isn't that questionable imo. But if you guys want to continue to the vote, that's fine.
I felt the lack of dynamics was enough of an issue, in spite of the genre. Would prefer to have some more input.
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6Y, if y'all don't mind.
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Play nice, kids. Watch the atonal techno notation there.
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VGFs 30-34 are now up on Bittorrent. Thank AP for hosting the tracker: http://ap.zapto.org:6969/stats.html?info_hash=a3cf7168e62de3ecca628d0c30eef7f24adab248
I'm gonna be seeding for another 4 hours tonight, and probably a 6-12 pm time window for however long it takes to get some other seeders set up. Point your client to whatever folder you keep your VGFs in; you should be able to just get the ones you're missing. Now, time for gravy.
Thanks a lot to Xerol for hooking this up. Certainly try it out, especially if you're interested in snagging the recently released episodes for #33 & #34
43? The whole numbering scheme is majorly F'ed up.It is, isn't it? The reason I did that was so I didn't skip any numbers for the weeks I've missed. During the 3-day gap I have between my second and last final, I plan on recording makeup shows for all of the weeks I've missed covering the material released for those respective weeks.
Are you doing new shows now or are you just still airing re-runs? I miss my fresh intake of Oji.
I always keep saying this, but HOPEFULLY Saturday will be a live show provided the stream stays intact. I just have to make it through Friday and the many papers and presentations I have. I'm dead serious when I say wish me luck.
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Right now, there's a poll going on at my other main hangout, Ormgas.com, regarding VG Frequency and other established VG remix radio shows.
The current system is one where every single OC ReMix plays once (newer ones getting several plays), and then an episode of VGF plays. This cycle occurs once every 3 days and some change. The poll is there to decide how VGF should be handled in the future at Ormgas.
The poll is on the bottom left-hand side of the main page. I encourage you to register to leave comments, but do vote on what you would prefer to have done with the show at Ormgas.com.
Should ormgas have a dedicated stream for other video game music radio show reruns (including VGF)?
Yes. Better that than to mess up the playlist with them. Well, I think it's better to include them in the playlist (provided most of the time only OCRemixes are playing). All the same to me. I wouldn't listen to them anyway. No, I think VGF is enough for now. No, no, no! I want no shows, just streaming OC Remixes.
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http://www.snesmusic.org/spcsets/smk.rsn - "Rainbow Road" (smk-12.spc)
First off I have to state that I like this track. It doesn't make my vote any more difficult, but I enjoyed it overall and had the privilege of debuting this track on VG Frequency while interviewing Mustin in September. Objectively speaking though, this mix does nothing particularly interpretive with the source material on a rearragement level most of the time and isn't an innovative or expansive straight arrangement piece either. That sounds a lot like my Donkey Kong Sunset vote, which I've now referenced twice in two days.
The orchestral opening of the first 30 seconds sounds great, and makes you think the arrangement is going to be a very different take on the source material, but then going into the meat of the track at :31, everything is basically a minorly upgraded cover. The voices in the SPC that comprised the meat of the original's melody and harmonization are referenced verbatim here. You've just gotta be more.
You can hear various instruments periodically pop in to embellish things, but aside from that there's no substantial creative expansion here when the Rainbow Road theme is being covered. Create some brand new harmonies and countermelodies to provide a more unique spin on things.
The percussion pattern was probably the only thing drastically different from the source, but it looped the entire time. Use drumloops as much as you want. I don't mind that badly myself. But provide some variations in the pattern to keep things fresh.
I felt the guitar playing throughout could be more energetic and expressive. The sax solo from 1:57-2:22 was well done overall but felt somewhat dry. Add some reverb to it. The piano solo from 2:23-2:46 sounded better to me, although I thought the last few notes from 2:44-2:46 sounded awkward. When you were on the air with me on VGF, you mentioned that William laid down his tracks pretty quickly. I would just recommend that both of you devote additional time to polishing up the delivery on the live work so it's at its best.
Nonetheless, providing the near-minute of original solos was a great idea that really pieced together very naturally with source material. Be sure to apply similar ideas on top on the source tune melody as well if you plan to keep the arrangement straightforward. Mixes by guys like bLiNd, Midee & Mark Vera are excellent examples of straightforward arrangements that expand their source tunes greatly.
I enjoyed this mix, but the live instruments could sound better, and the Rainbow Road arrangement could be much more creative overall, which is the main sticking point on why it's not YESable in the first place. It's not meant as a knock on the track, but this sounds more like a late-stage WIP, where more ideas sound as if they're going to be added. Good stuff, but it's gonna take more creativity to meet the guidelines here.
NO (rework & resubmit)
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This one got submitted back in late February, and I played it on my show then. Grr on losing this one.
I think it's alright, some people really like it... whateverit's a remix of the moon theme from duck tales. And guess what? Its neet.
http://www.zophar.net/nsf/duckta~1.zip - Track 7
I really liked how all of the elements came together here. Good opening with the piano and strings. The claps on percussion are pretty tame, but the reverb levels are good. Kind of spacey, along with an basic upbeat yet trancy type vibe at times.
Star always does a great job of fusing electronic and "real" instruments. Here's he relies on the occasional use of some string samples to give the track a slightly epic touch that also often functions as a transition point to a change in the style. The arrangement is pretty straightforward most of the time, yet certainly expansive compared to the NES original.
Though the clap beats at the base of the mix could have varied up more when they were in effect, the overall development of the track was very good throughout. Lots of instrumental changes, along with plenty of addition and subtraction on that level as well to constantly keep ideas flowing and the presentation fresh.
The minimalist work from 3:03-3:29 was one late example of how Star kept the rearrangement ideas here viable for 5+ minutes. 3:29-3:55 also had some freestyle-type work that was later placed underneath the Moon theme for yet another new idea introduced late in the game. Overall, how you gonna hate on this? Good progression, good flow, good arrangement. Happy ©Hannukah, Star!
YES
*NO* Chrono Trigger 'Schala's Hope' *RESUB*
in Judges Decisions
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http://www.snesmusic.org/spcsets/ct.rsn - "Sara's (Schala's) Theme" (ct-3-06.spc)
Certainly a lot more promising material in place now, but not yet there. The choices for the leads are less abrasive now, but still grating. I made sure Mark pulled the drums back on this before I posted the resub, because they were even louder than this. They're not so jarring on that level, but they're definitely still obscuring things.
The drums still pound at the same intensity nearly all the time, but sounded fairly realistic otherwise. Like Israfel mentioned, the percussion structure seems to clash with the other ideas here, which was a problem the first time around. Not so much so now, but still a problem. zircon has some excellent ideas for you to use once again.
I allowed this resub to go straight to the panel, since I noticed Mark had just submitted it to djp, so I might as well do Fusion a favor. Loads of improvement compared to the first version. Less abrasive textures overall, along with slightly better sound balance this time around, but this still isn't cohesive enough. Really rethink the structure here, bro. You're coming along fairly well as an artist though. This isn't a track I would focus on retooling much further, but I'm looking forward to what else you're gonna come out with as you develop even more.
NO