Synth Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 I just bought a new guitar, its an Ibanez RG5EX1 with a floating trem. When I bought it, it came with bass strings for the lower 3 strings, its super heavy; its turned to drop A#. Anyways i'm taking it in on saturday to get it set up for 10 guage strings, but i'm having other problems with it. Double locking trems shouldnt go out of tune correct? Mine is, mainly the G strings, some times I can hear it drop tune when i'm freting. I'm think its becuase its one of ibanezs cheap floating trems and it cant be fixed. Anyone know if it is a problem that can be fixed? I have 20 days to take it back, but I dont want to have it set up for 10 guage strings, then find out I wanna trade it for a non-trem guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 Bass strings for the lower 3? That'll snap your guitars neck like an Irishmans penis inside a Germans womans asshole. You probably have your information wrong, check again and post why you think they're bass strings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synth Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share Posted July 7, 2006 They might not be bass strings, but they are uber thick like them. I'm not sure about the guage. If I do trade it, what would you guys recommend? I'm thinking a Schecter Omen 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k u n g f u c h i c k e n Posted July 7, 2006 Share Posted July 7, 2006 The only Omen 6 I played was fairly good, I didn't like the neck though, not near as slick as an ibanez IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion303 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Floating trems make strings go out of tune all the time if you're bending other strings, or even just playing sometimes (which sounds like what's happening to you). If it's too sensitive for you, remove the back panel and tighten the springs. -steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 A GOOD floating trem, like an original Floyd Rose, Wylkinson, Kahler or the Ibanez Lo-Pro will NOT go out of tune. The cheap tremolo that's on your RG5EX1 isn't worth keeping. I suggest you made due for now while you save for a Floyd Rose (an Original one, they cost about $200) to replace it with. Also, Ibanez Wizard necks are some of the best around, I'd only trade it for a Jackson of similar value, like the KVX10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion303 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Even the best floating trems go out of tune if the springs were installed crappily (yes, that's a word. I'll wait while you grab the dictionary). Before blowing $200 on another trem, he's better off adjusting what he already has to see if it helps first. -steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Well, it's also a matter of the saddles being cheap and wearing down the strings, and the nut not being able to properly lock, or the fine tuners to be slowly giving way, or the cheap saddles simply not being able to cradle the strings properly so they move around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixto Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 The Ibanez Lo-Pro Edge stays in tune better than most fixed bridges I've played on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synth Posted July 9, 2006 Author Share Posted July 9, 2006 Tightening the springs did nothing for me, so I traded it for a Schecter Gryphon, which I like much better than the RG. Thanks for the help guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion303 Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Well, it's also a matter of (etc.) Yes, yes, we both know that, but let's help the guy with his current problem instead of wrestling with our e-peens. Edit: I see my suggestion failed, so your e-peen won. I feel so violated. -steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Hah, I win! >) And yeah, now it's time to ditch the pickups and get good ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synth Posted July 9, 2006 Author Share Posted July 9, 2006 Yeah, these pickups blow. What would you guys say about dimarzio evolutions? I want to go for a heavy sound, but I want versatitatly(spelling?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriZm Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I'd forget about the Evolutions. They aren't very versatile because you can always hear that Steve Vaiish fatness in their sound. For a metal sound (anything from Aerosmith clean sound to Dream Theater's heavy crunch), I'd recommend DiMarzio Air Norton (neck) and Tone Zone (bridge). That's what I think would sound better on an Ibanez, but you'll never get the 'tearing apart' sound of a Jackson, the bluesy sound of a Strat or the OVERHUGE sound of a Les Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synth Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 I'd forget about the Evolutions. They aren't very versatile because you can always hear that Steve Vaiish fatness in their sound.For a metal sound (anything from Aerosmith clean sound to Dream Theater's heavy crunch), I'd recommend DiMarzio Air Norton (neck) and Tone Zone (bridge). That's what I think would sound better on an Ibanez, but you'll never get the 'tearing apart' sound of a Jackson, the bluesy sound of a Strat or the OVERHUGE sound of a Les Paul. I traded the Ibanez for a Schecter Gryphon...which is a guitar center exclusive, but its modeled after Schecters C-1 series. It has Duncan Designed pickups, which are modeled after Seymour Duncan JB (SH-4) & Jazz (SH-2n from what I have read. It also has a coil tap which they say is only on the bridge but I can hear the diffrent on the neck as well. I have a question about coil taps, will it work with any pickups? Like I said i'm looking for something very versatile, I want to achieve sounds like avenged svenfold, angra, vai, and satriani. Basiccaly I want a heavy metal tone with lots of versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 My favorite pickups are the M22SD and C22T by Carvin. Too bad they only fit Carvin guitars (as far as I know). Other than that, I'd go with the Seymour Duncan Hot Rodded set, the give you the overall best sound for any style of music involving electric guitar (especially if you have a coil tap switch installed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixto Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 The favorite seems to be the EMG 81/85 active set for metal and they do sound killer, but you'd need to put a hole into your guitar for the battery case. If you don't want to do that, I would totally go for the Evolutions. I love them and they're great for metal. There's a new Evo2 bridge pickup that is more dynamic and cleans up easily. It doesn't have as high an output as the original, but it is a little more versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Active pickups really piss me off, I prefer to use passive pickups with active/passive electronics. That way you can plug any pickup into your guitar and get all the benefits of active pickups plus active EQ PLUS being able to use them in their normal passive state if your battery runs out or you just feel like it. DiMarzio's are great, but I've always been partial to Duncans. In reality, all pickups are the same after a certain point of quality, it's just a matter of picking one that is tuned to the frequencies and output that you want, that's when you start to notice things that would lead you to prefer one manufacturer over another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synth Posted July 11, 2006 Author Share Posted July 11, 2006 Well like I said befor, I really likes vai's and satrianis tones. Since Vais evo2 bridge is a highpower and Satrianis is only a medium power, the evo2 would be a better choice for metal, correct? And i'm thinking about getting a satriani pickup in the neck, but I need to really play a jem and a satriani to know what i'm getting myself into. I appecerciate all the help so far guys. EDIT: Sixto, could you give me a sample of what the bridge and neck evolutions sound like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixto Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Sure, I'll do a quick recording tomorrow. 1:10AM right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnappleMan Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Keep in mind that Vai and Sach are playing through rigs you will never even come close to seeing with your own eyes. Also, a big part of their sound is that they're Steve Vai and Joe Satriani (and they overdub each guitar section like, 8 times). But yeah, I'd like some quick sixto recordings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixto Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Just some random wanking. Please excuse the sloppy playing. Evo Clip Signal: Ibanez Jem with DiMarzio Evolution pickups > Boss Keeley Ultra DS-1 Distortion > Ibanez AD-9 Analog Delay > Mesa Lonestar Head, Clean Channel > Mesa Standard Rectifier 4x12 Cabinet > Audix i5 (off axis) and Studio Projects C-1 (on axis) and I added some Waves plate reverb in post. Snapple is right, though. Only Vai and Satch can sound like themselves, but their tones aren't too impossible to conjur up if you know their rigs well enough, which aren't too complex. Steve uses Jems with Evolutions and Breeds into a Bad Horsie Wah, a Keeley DS-1 (or a rare Japanese DS-1 from the 80s) into his signature Carvin Legacy amp. he also uses a Digitech Whammy, though I'm not sure if it's before the amp or in the effects loop. The effects he uses are quite pricey, though, especially the Evantide stuff. He controls everything from his Bradley switching system his tech set up, which is ridiculously expensive. Satch, on the other hand, has a much simpler setup. His signature JS guitars into the same DS-1 (Keeley or old Japanese) into his JSX amps. And I think he only uses a few pedals in the effects loops. Pretty simple. Alot of the time, Satch doesn't even use the distortion in his amp. He'll just his DS-1 into a clean amp, which is what I did for this clip. Have fun with your new guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixto Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Oh, and a coil-tap should work on any 4 conductor pickup if you wire it that way. Plenty of wiring diagrams to be found in the internet for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synth Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 Just some random wanking. Please excuse the sloppy playing. Evo Clip Signal: Ibanez Jem with DiMarzio Evolution pickups > Boss Keeley Ultra DS-1 Distortion > Ibanez AD-9 Analog Delay > Mesa Lonestar Head, Clean Channel > Mesa Standard Rectifier 4x12 Cabinet > Audix i5 (off axis) and Studio Projects C-1 (on axis) and I added some Waves plate reverb in post. Snapple is right, though. Only Vai and Satch can sound like themselves, but their tones aren't too impossible to conjur up if you know their rigs well enough, which aren't too complex. Steve uses Jems with Evolutions and Breeds into a Bad Horsie Wah, a Keeley DS-1 (or a rare Japanese DS-1 from the 80s) into his signature Carvin Legacy amp. he also uses a Digitech Whammy, though I'm not sure if it's before the amp or in the effects loop. The effects he uses are quite pricey, though, especially the Evantide stuff. He controls everything from his Bradley switching system his tech set up, which is ridiculously expensive. Satch, on the other hand, has a much simpler setup. His signature JS guitars into the same DS-1 (Keeley or old Japanese) into his JSX amps. And I think he only uses a few pedals in the effects loops. Pretty simple. Alot of the time, Satch doesn't even use the distortion in his amp. He'll just his DS-1 into a clean amp, which is what I did for this clip. Have fun with your new guitar. Sweet dude, your playing always impresses me. I reconized a few Vai songs. I know I won't sound like Vai or Satriani, I just love their tones. Is it just me or is Satrianis tone a little over compressed sometimes? I also have a shity strat copy that I payed 2$ for that i'm going to scallope tomorrow. I'm going to put Yngwie Malmsteen pickups in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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