HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Well I tried to do Schala's theme, though I can't quite get the flute part. I haven't really reinterpreted it yet, because I just want to get it to sound right first. Any tips? http://media.putfile.com/Schalas-Theme-46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I like the sound it has, it definetely has the sound of something that could be awesome, the drums seem poorly sampled though, the flute is wrong but you know that or else you wouldn't have commented on it. Anyway did you finish Tyrano lair? I want to hear that in completion! that was good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 I like the sound it has, it definetely has the sound of something that could be awesome, the drums seem poorly sampled though, the flute is wrong but you know that or else you wouldn't have commented on it.Anyway did you finish Tyrano lair? I want to hear that in completion! that was good! I'm unsure...I need to bug JJT or some other judge to see if its worth posting yet As for Schala WIP u don't like the drums? T_T, I thought they went well with the rhythm *tears* lol. Hmm okay, how can I improve them? Sample quality or their tempo/beat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Yeah I'll post some drums in a moment, it's not that they are off beat, just loud and kinda not really feeling like the music your setting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 Yeah I'll post some drums in a moment,it's not that they are off beat, just loud and kinda not really feeling like the music your setting Well you are probably right, but for the Midi, the guy used world drums too, though his is way better and I really don't feel like doing a Midi rip , so what sort of angle could you suggest? I don't really feel like doing the same feel as my Tyranno Lair remix lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 I made a quick drum beat, try sounding more gentle with your beat, the original was more background and and feel inspiring, but don't let that make you not play with a beat trying being creative, and maybe listening to this will help you come up with something. http://www.heartsteps.com/remix/a/drum.wav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 So just reduce the velocities on the drum beats then? BTW, I don't think I can do this, cuz I took a peak at how the guy did the Midi and I realized that he somehow made the flute's pitch drop as the note goes. That's what gives it that distorted, yet beautiful sound - this is beyond my knowledge of FL :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 http://media.putfile.com/Schalas-Theme---Midi is the Midi, you can definately tell that this author is a genius. He did a wonderful job on his flute and drums. BTW, I'm sorry but I didn't find your drum sample very useful, because it doesn't really click with me when I think of this song. Thanks for your effort though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 something like this? http://www.heartsteps.com/remix/a/untitled.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 http://media.putfile.com/Schalas-Theme---Midi is the Midi, you can definately tell that this author is a genius. He did a wonderful job on his flute and drums. BTW, I'm sorry but I didn't find your drum sample very useful, because it doesn't really click with me when I think of this song. Thanks for your effort though Don't worry about it, just trying to help whenever I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 something like this?http://www.heartsteps.com/remix/a/untitled.mp3 Yes exactly!!! How the hellz did you do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensei Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Well I can't say that this mix has a lot going for it, everything sounds dry like the sahara desert (especially the percussion) and the string and piano notes sound dissonant compared to the main melody ostinato. Also, the percussion and the flute are very off-beat, it all sounds very chaotic, and there's little to none expansion upon the original. You're going to need to work it out a lot more to get a cohesive musical idea, but first of all, just make sure all the tracks are lined up correctly, and everything is nicely quantized on-beat. P.S. I think the flute in the original is in fact a Shakuhachi, so you might want to look for a soundfont of it. With some pitch control you can fake the glissandos(the slides) at the start of each note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 goto channel settings and all the volume's pans, etc tabs look for pitch. Then just dink around until you get the sound your looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 I don't quite follow you... could you please define channel for me? I'm oh such a newb Thanks for helping tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutritious Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hmm, something's not sounding right when that (Cello?) comes in. Sounds like it's coming in on beat 2 of the measure instead of the downbeat (beat 1). Now, you may be purposely playing them freely outside of the beat structure, but it sounds off the way it's currently written. Now the percussion is in, and it seems to be off the beat also. It's starting on beat 3 rather than the downbeat, but again, if it's on purpose that's up to you. Flute's coming in on the "And" of beat 3, which also normally comes in on the downbeat and is playing wrong notes. I've put together a quick exmaple of the basic flow of the original (not exact by any means, but listen to the timings): http://nutritiousmultimedia.googlepages.com/SchalaExample.mp3 I didn't include the drums as they've alredy been mentioned & didn't do pitch bends with flute or anything. Honestly, Schala's theme is a tough song to mix - not because it's technically difficult, but because it's been done many times before and covered from a lot of different angles. The real challenge is trying to find an original take on the theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Well I can't say that this mix has a lot going for it, everything sounds dry like the sahara desert (especially the percussion) and the string and piano notes sound dissonant compared to the main melody ostinato.. the mix has just started, before you can really critique the arrangement give him time to fix his errors, but he does have a point, you may want to up quality of your sounds, and fix strings at first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 do you have a messenger account, if so I can take you step by step of what to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 do you have a messenger account, if so I can take you step by step of what to do? Why yes I do...bare with me its a long address the_great_guy_sorta@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 Nutricious, this is amazing. It puts my work to shame lol. I'll see if I can fix the tempos. You know what? I think I might want to omit the drums and go for the flute sound with a dark piano and the cello sound - on tempo (or die trying) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 are you on? you're not popping up as online... Mine's LagunaCloud@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted July 20, 2007 Author Share Posted July 20, 2007 BTW Nutricious, how's your collab with DragonAvenger going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutritious Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 BTW Nutricious, how's your collab with DragonAvenger going? Going well, I sent her a WIP to record the vocals over, but I haven't heard back from her on it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensei Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 the mix has just started, before you can really critique the arrangement give him time to fix his errors, but he does have a point, you may want to up quality of your sounds, and fix strings at first Well problems should be nipped in the bud =P Besides, IMO you shouldn't post like 20 seconds of work, it's really only worth it if you already have enough work done to demonstrate the general feel and direction of your arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagunaCloud Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Well problems should be nipped in the bud =PBesides, IMO you shouldn't post like 20 seconds of work, it's really only worth it if you already have enough work done to demonstrate the general feel and direction of your arrangement. I agree completely, but he was interested if his mix was worth it which I could hear potential in it, whether how bad the drums were or how off some of his instruments were he could definetely improve it, not that your critism was bad just sounded harsh for something just brought out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiowar Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hmm after all the talk in your other thread this is kind of disappointing to hear. You still seem to be unable to hear when things are offbeat or offkey that should be noticeable, if not glaringly obvious, to anybody even without musical training. The cello enters too early causing dissonance between it and the lead synth. The drums come in early shifting the rhythm of the song and it just feels unnatural. The flute comes in on a weird offbeat and plays pretty much all out of key. Everything clashes pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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