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Old 11-25-2011, 07:30 AM
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[RECRUITING! Next Check-In: June 26th! 10 songs unclaimed!] Jigsaw Memories: A B-K Series Album

Games: Banjo-Kazooie, Banjo-Tooie and Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts

Concept: A series tribute album. Specifically relating to how in basically all the games, it's always the bear and bird against the evil and resilient-as-a-cockroach (seriously) witch. Therefore, the majority of songs/remixes on this album will be of songs that relate to Banjo and Kazooie's travels through the various world's in pursuit of Gruntilda, ultimately ending with the final battle. It's a...a tribute, basically, to their journey together to protect their friends, family and world from a rhyming witch, whether it's saving Banjo's sister, protecting the world and their friends from getting their life force drained by a bunch of witches or trying to protect the deed to their home from the same antagonistic witch.

Zircon worded it a lot better than me: "Your vision is to have the remixes stick to the mood or 'feel' of the source tune, even if they change the musical style/genre, so if it's a dark, spooky track, you would want the remix to be dark and spooky, though people could accomplish that with orchestral, metal, electronic..."

Current Team: Kirvee (Leader), Emunator (QA/WIP Feedback), Cody (QA/WIP Feedback), SoSiouxMe (QA/WIP feedback), Bahamut (Website Designer, QA/WIP feedback)

- People we need: REMIXERS, assistants, someone to do art, QA people

Style/Genre: Any! No restrictions, you can mix and match to your heart's content, all I ask is you avoid generic techno (but techno is still allowed, just please don't make it sound like something I'd find on Youtube).

- Additional Details: The final track numbers and order will be dependent on how many contributors we get and how many want to mix together level tracks (a remix that uses two featured worlds will count as 1 remix for both worlds). Ideally, there will be one remix per featured world (which will make the final track count decrease by 1 if someone mixes together two levels into one remix) with the first/opening track of the album being a remix that uses the Gruntilda's Lair theme (or any of the variations of it that are found in her lair throughout the game) and the final/closing track of the album being a remix that uses the final battle themes from B-K and N&B (as provided in the list). Between the opening and closing tracks the rest of the album will be ordered by game and level. So basically it'd be like:

(Opening Song)
--B-K levels--
--Tooie levels--
--N&B levels/songs--
(Closing Song)

Any bonus songs would go after the closing song.

People Offering Remix Assistance

- BrothaDom (lyric writing), Orangedragan (vocals), Chris | Amaterasu (strings), Mairujyat (transcription/soundfonts), One-Winged Angle (vocals)

Notes on this area: Numbered tracks are the featured songs that MUST be remixed for album completion. Some levels have additional music denoted by "-" underneath them. These additional songs are not required but are there for use by the remixer in that level or elsewhere.

--Tracks--

(Orange = Claimed w/o WIP, Magenta = WIP, Navy = Finished)

Disc 1: Banjo-Kazooie

1) Grunty's Lair (Source) (Claimed by HooNose)

2) Mumbo's Mountain (Source) (Claimed by Afilion)
- Inside Ticker's Tower (Source)

3) Treasure Trove Cove (Source) (Claimed by Cash and Change)
- Snacker Attack (Source)

4) Clanker's Cavern (Source) (Claimed by The_Android)
- Inside Clanker (Source)

5) Bubblegloop Swamp (Source)

6) Freezeezy Peak (Source)

7) Gobi's Valley (Source) (Claimed by NbZero)

8 ) Mad Monster Mansion (Source) (Claimed by anterroir)
- The Haunted Church (Source)
- Inside The Mansion (Source)
- Tumblar's Ouija Board (Source)

9) Rusty Bucket Bay (Source)

10) Click Clock Wood (Claimed by FaytxStay)
- Spring (Source)
- Summer (Source)
- Fall (Source)
- Winter (Source)
- Nabnuts House (Source)


Disc 2: Banjo-Tooie

1) Isle O' Hags (Source) (Claimed by Mairujyat)

2) Jinjo Village (Source) (Claimed by darkbrandflake11)
- Hall of the Zombie King (Source)

3) Mayahem Temple (Source) (Claimed by NbZero)
- Targitzan Boss Battle (Source)

4) Glitter Gulch Mine (Source)

5) Witchyworld (Source) (Claimed by Cody Wedel)
- Mr. Patch Boss Battle (Source)

6) Jolly Roger's Lagoon (Source) (Claimed by AstrothSounds)
- Atlantis (Source)
- Lord Woo Fak Fak Boss Battle (Source)

7) Terrydactyland (Source)

8 ) Grunty Industries (Source) (Claimed by jnWake)

9) Hailfire Peaks (Claimed by Esperado)
- Lava (Source)
- Ice (Source)

10) Cloud Cuckooland (Source) (Claimed by JamJars


Disc 3: Nuts & Bolts

1) Terrarium of Terror (Day) (Source)

2) LOGBox 720 (Source)

3) Test-O-Track (Source)

4) Nutty Acres (Source)

5) Showdown Town (Day) (Source) (Claimed by HooNose)

6) The Final Battle (Source 1) (Source 2) (Claimed by DaMonz)


Bonus Songs

1) Spiral Mountain (Source) (Claimed by JamJars)

2) Tooie Boss Medley (Claimed by sggod89)

3) Tooty's Theme (Source) (Claimed by HooNose)


--Bonus Songs That Would Be Cool To Have--

- A remix of the main theme from B-K (and maybe Tooie as well?)

- Mumbo's Theme

- A tribute remix to lost or development levels/music such as Fungus Forest and others only made knowable because of Grant

--Bonus Optional Tracks--

- Fungus Forest (Advent) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0hzApLeg08

- B-K Intro song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDZOO...ure=plpp_video

- Once Upon A Time... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjsf0NDlg8U

- The Lord of Games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy2sIeYaMH4

- Cheato's Theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzJYbaHSoyY

- Any Jingle (but specifically the Jigsaw and All Jinjo jingles) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DlXtygz5TA

- Cauldron Keep (Source)

- Notes: Bonus Optional Tracks are songs that ARE NOT required for album completion, but are possible for use in either mixing into a main remix, or creating a bonus track if someone has the time and desire for it.

Timeline: June 2013 is the 15th anniversary of the US release of B-K and thus the 15th anniversary of the series itself.

--DEADLINES--

January 30th: Check-In

March 27th: Check-In

June 26th: Check-In

September 25th: Check-In

November 27th: Check-In/Maybe Final Date


Sigs:


Last edited by Kirvee; 06-09-2013 at 05:27 AM. Reason: Since I now possess on my computer a WIP of JV, it's now been made magenta to reflect this.
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:31 PM
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Definitely take a look at the project guidelines.
That should give you most of the information you'll need.
As for theme and content, you could either set strict guidelines (Specific genres, specific tracks), or you could leave it up to the artists who join.
I would suggest not trying to take on too much at a time. Putting 3 games in one album generally isn't a good idea.
It would probably be best if you stuck with the original game for now (you can always do sperate albums for the others after the first one is released).
Hope this helps
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:39 PM
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I would suggest not trying to take on too much at a time. Putting 3 games in one album generally isn't a good idea.
It would probably be best if you stuck with the original game for now (you can always do sperate albums for the others after the first one is released).
Nonsense.

It depends what you're going for. If you want your project to be a compilation of the best/your favourite songs over the series, do that. I think what Kuolema means is that trying to remix every song used in all three games is a ton of work. There's no reason why you can't pick and choose though and end up with something manageable.
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Old 11-25-2011, 08:39 PM
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Nonsense.

It depends what you're going for. If you want your project to be a compilation of the best/your favourite songs over the series, do that. I think what Kuolema means is that trying to remix every song used in all three games is a ton of work. There's no reason why you can't pick and choose though and end up with something manageable.
Yeah thats true...as long as there aren't too many tracks...
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:16 AM
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@Kuolema: I read through the guidelines so I have a general idea, lol. It's just the theme and other overall general stuff specific to album making that I don't really know the answer to.

I'd probably leave genre up to the artist. Fosters better creativity, I believe.

@Kanthos: Ah, yeah, I see what you're saying, lol. It probably wouldn't be ALL the songs, that'd be way too much. As far as the first game goes, I was thinking of letting all of the music tracks from all 9 worlds be up for grabs/free reign. I personally haven't played Tooie myself, but I know a few of the tunes from that game and like them. Same with N&B. The number of songs I can think of off the top of my head that I like from Tooie are like 3, so overall there'd be 12 or so songs up for grabs to be mixed and matched to an artist's desire.

That's....how it works....right? Cuz I've seen before on other series tribute albums (like the LoZ one that just came out, for instance) that some artists will mix together different songs from different games in the same series. I don't know how those kinds of things go, if they're offered a list of allowable songs and mix together from that list or what. But I'd allow and encourage that kind of mixing on here if someone wanted to do that.

Since, like I said, most of the remixes available on Youtube are all generic techno, but I've found at least two really nice B-K medleys on there before so...
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Well there aren't really any guidelines for what needs to be included in an album or how the tracks need to be mixed. It's totally up to you and the artists, so if you want it to be solely medleys, then tell people that. If you want no medleys at all, let people know that too.
If you want to see how other people are running their projects, take a look at http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31725, http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30903 and http://ocremix.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35647.
You'll see that the Paper Mario one is broken up into different "chapters" and requires mixes to be orchestral in some way, while the Zelda one requires mixers to mix together at least 2 tracks, and the Mana one leaves it more or less up to the artist.
Honestly, just do whatever you think would suit the game(s) best
Also, if you don't want techno, make sure you tell people that as well (Although you'd be missing out on some great talent, and OCR techno tends to be much higher quality than youtube techno).
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Old 11-26-2011, 10:50 PM
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Aah, alright, XDD. I'll give those topics a look =3.

And yeah, I know OCR techno tends to be much better than the majority of stuff on Youtube (I have a lot of them on this computer). I probably wouldn't disallow it, I'd just ask to avoid being generic, lol.

I'm still kind of confused on the whole album process though. As I understood it when I read over the guidelines, a project isn't an official OCR project unless it gets approved when you fill out the project sheet there, right? I remember it saying that if it got rejected that you can re-send it after revising it and/or getting more contributors.

Does this mean that before I send in a form, I should have some remixers interested in helping first before I try to get the project official? (I probably wouldn't send it in until I can answer the basic stuff it asks for, I'm just curious so I can know for when I am ready to send it in for approval).

Edit: So I'm poking around Youtube to try and get together something of a tracklist and I think I found a decent idea to kinda pull all the tracks together in one album. Since Gruntilda is always the antagonist in the games, the album could be organized by her various attempts to foil the heroic duo. So like all remixes from the first game would go under a heading of like "Sister Kidnapping" or something of that nature. Whatever Gruntilda's main goal in the specific game was, it'd be the title/header of that specific part of the album... /idea.

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Old 11-27-2011, 03:12 AM
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Ok, so I got a list of songs together....I really love the game music too much, I think, XD. I ended up putting a lot of them in as optional tracks, but the overall number for the "main stuff" comes to 22. Though that wouldn't necessarily be the amount a final album would have....it's just the number of tracks that would go into the "main album".

This is what I have for right now, though it will be revised if anyone wants to give me input:

--List of Potential B-K album tracks--

- ANY of the various mixes of the Gruntilda's Lair theme from any part of the lair/game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1OXJClLByE <-- A flat medley of most of them for reference

- Mumbo's Mountain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1DnbEUnFYw

- Treasure Trove Cove http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DQfn...eature=related

- Clanker's Cavern http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVYWp...eature=related

- Bubblegloop Swamp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7jJH...eature=related

- Freezeezy Peak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUgja4wkAO8

- Gobi's Valley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFmzz...eature=related

- Mad Monster Mansion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2b_O...eature=related

- Rusty Bucket Bay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfgZO...eature=related

- Click Clock Wood
Spring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXoaT...eature=related
Summer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXPnP...eature=related
Fall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkY8i...eature=related
Winter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QYo5...eature=related

- The Final Battle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eKK3CZPKac

--Tooie--

- Jinjo Village http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb4_nKjBNKM

- Mayahem Temple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr7jnq-Bvrk

- Glitter Gulch Mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UnlMwW8nyI

- Witchyworld http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb73u_P3SWk

- Jolly Roger's Lagoon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGPncRJWcJc

- Hailfire Peaks
Lava: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owbVtwrO_TQ
Ice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cws3qjFU94

--N&B--

- Terrarium of Terror (Day) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR08ayd3yvA

- Once Upon A Time... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjsf0NDlg8U

- The Lord of Games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy2sIeYaMH4

- Showdown Town (Day) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csp49MbpvbA

- Grunty's Final Challenge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4jlk2x3Om0


--Bonus Optional Tracks--

- Spiral Mountain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1cRQRdg62E

- Inside Clanker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTfEa...eature=related

- The Haunted Church http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Ww_U2MoVk

- Fungus Forest (Advent) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0hzApLeg08

- Terrydactyland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfs5yLrmTM4

- Cauldron Keep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCEhPZIrQvE

- Atlantis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY4qEPmRAos

- Nabnut's House http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcZd7qxKbY4

- B-K Intro song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDZOO...ure=plpp_video

- Inside Ticker's Tower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWWm0ufTcgA

- Snacker Attack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIuOsJX0HU4

- Cheato's Theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzJYbaHSoyY

- Any Jingle (but specifically the Jigsaw and All Jinjo jingles) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DlXtygz5TA

- Inside The Mansion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_1BrIBbXZk

- Tumblar's Ouija Board http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7beJOCjL60

- Tooty's Theme http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWyuwdVfjzk

- Hall of the Zombie King http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmTIeoFxvTM

- Mr. Patch Boss Battle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtZ63WVivro

- Lord Woo Fak Fak Boss Battle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2hm0dkEt74

- Targitzan Boss Battle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyy8l5Wq7bU


Some notes: Yes, that is a lot of music, but the final album will most likely not have this much music.

The way I've organized this is by main remixes from each game (N&B only has a few cuz like I said before I haven't personally played it so I don't know its music as well as I do the other two). Those are song remixes I would like to see featured mainly on the album, however they don't have to be in order or necessarily be individual. Meaning that if someone wanted to, say, mix together the songs for Clanker's Cavern and Rusty Bucket Bay, they could do that and it would basically count as 1 song for two levels.

Additionally, for levels like Click Clock Wood and Hailfire Peaks, the music for them DOESN'T have to be individual. Since the music for those stages is basically the same, whoever remixes those levels can do whatever they want with mixing those. If someone wanted to make a seasonal medley for CCW, it'd count as 1 song for that whole level, if someone wanted to mix together only one or two of those songs, it'd also count as 1 song for that level. Likewise with HFP, though I personally think a mix of both Lava and Ice songs together would be cool unless someone just wanted to do one or the other.

The "Bonus Optional Tracks" is just the list of other songs from the games that I like but don't necessarily need to be in other mixes. However they're there in case someone wanted to add them into one of the main tracks or mix a few of them together to make a bonus track, or whatever, really! Like I said I'd rather leave as many options and decisions up to the remixers as I can.

And I was thinking, since most of the world's are either in Grunty's lair or related to it in some way, then a good opening and ending song for the album would likewise be related to her lair itself rather than one of the world's in it. Which is why at the beginning of the B-K list I said any of the Gruntilda's Lair mixes in the game are up for grabs to use. This includes the mixes that play at jigsaw puzzles, the world gates, the furnace game, and even Lair Keep if someone wanted to give that a try. Basically any song in the game that uses the main lair theme as its melody is perfectly fine to use for an opening song.

The best closing song of the album, I feel, would be a remix of the final battle songs. I didn't really like the one from Tooie, but I liked the final battles songs from B-K and N&B. So maybe a mix of those two for a nice closing song? I know I put the B-K final battle at the end of the B-K list, but like I said this isn't in any particular order, it's just a general list organized by game.

This is pretty much all the music I could think of that I liked, so it's unlikely I'll add anymore (unless someone suggests something to me). So I guess...if people show interest/make suggestions, I'll drop songs if I have to but otherwise...?

*not sure if doing this right*
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Old 11-27-2011, 03:31 AM
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Aah, alright, XDD. I'll give those topics a look =3.

And yeah, I know OCR techno tends to be much better than the majority of stuff on Youtube (I have a lot of them on this computer). I probably wouldn't disallow it, I'd just ask to avoid being generic, lol.

I'm still kind of confused on the whole album process though. As I understood it when I read over the guidelines, a project isn't an official OCR project unless it gets approved when you fill out the project sheet there, right? I remember it saying that if it got rejected that you can re-send it after revising it and/or getting more contributors.

Does this mean that before I send in a form, I should have some remixers interested in helping first before I try to get the project official? (I probably wouldn't send it in until I can answer the basic stuff it asks for, I'm just curious so I can know for when I am ready to send it in for approval).
Yeah, don't send it in until you have a bunch of people signed up and have a clear idea of what you're doing (Having lots of posted mixers helps too). If it gets accepted it will be moved to the projects subforum.

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Edit: So I'm poking around Youtube to try and get together something of a tracklist and I think I found a decent idea to kinda pull all the tracks together in one album. Since Gruntilda is always the antagonist in the games, the album could be organized by her various attempts to foil the heroic duo. So like all remixes from the first game would go under a heading of like "Sister Kidnapping" or something of that nature. Whatever Gruntilda's main goal in the specific game was, it'd be the title/header of that specific part of the album... /idea.
I haven't played the games, so I can't really comment, but it sounds good. A solid theme is nice to have .
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Old 11-27-2011, 06:51 AM
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Awesome!

Now I just need to find out how people get interested...should I make a new topic for it or just edit the first post? Advertising isn't my forte, unfortunately...
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