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DaleNorth

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  1. I have seen once, on the infinite reaches of this board, Dale or Mustin mentioning the possibilty of Team Gato 2. After seeing the CT OVA, I am more convinced than ever it should happen. With bilingual lyrics. And "You're so weak, and I'm so strong, I knocked your lights out, now run along."

    It would be the king of OCR.

    "Ah Gonalez!"

    A Team Gato 2 would be amazing...

  2. You're just so far off the mark that it's just annoying now.

    Look, I would tell you if I tuned this. The issue here isn't even the tunning, but is more about you THINKNIG THAT YOU'RE CORRECT when you have no way to know. WHY would I lie?

    About 'nasal tone': Fuck me! I apologize wholeheartedly for how god/momma/science made me and how my voice changes depending on range. Actually, a popular and often recommended vocal technique is to project sound through the nose and facial bones when you know you're about to hit notes in your higher range - it gives a better sense of control and tricks you into positioning your mouth to let you hit those notes.

    The fact of the matter is that I sing terribly, and I edit the hell out of everything I perform. Have you heard any of my original works? I sing shit all the time. I tune A LOT OF IT! I suck! Forgive me, I'm someone who loves to make music despite his abilities. But you throwing around words like 'suspect' is just plain stupid! I did not commit a crime, I arranged (and sang part of) a song for the hell of it. For fun! For a collection of songs about being friends and shit.

    THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS that in this thread, where people - up to you - have been saying nice things about a song I made. Then you come in shooting shit down, calling me a liar, and just overall shitting on a once nice thread. I stopped submitting many years ago to OCR because of shit like this.

    THANKS FOR REMINDING ME.

  3. I'm not so sure about that... this puppy is pretty much the industry standard in pitch correction, a descendant of it's hardware predecessor. But whatever works.

    I'm no singer, but I'd say it's a toss-up between them all. If someone's really off pitch, it's very noticeable. If someone's squealing out extreme falsetto at the expense of tone to reach a pitch, again, it's very noticeable.

    First, you're not a terrible singer by any means. Terrible is me trying to sing Coheed and Cambria in my car.

    Second, pitch correction on a voice (or any acoustic instrument for that matter) is very noticeable if pushed enough. Quantization on the other hand, when dealing with MIDI, involves no audio stretching or shrinking and virtually makes any timing mistakes disappear (along with any flowing humanization). Therefore, since pitch correction is so evident, it's something that's easily picked on :P I mean no harm.

    I don't want to drag this out, but:

    I know what autotune is. Ver 4 sits right here on my shelf. What I'm not sure you know is that it's usually used in a manual mode by mix engineers - the autotune 'sound' (the 'snap' as some call it) comes from an automatic setting that's a bit insensitive to gradual pitch changes and vibrato. When it is used in manual mode, only notes/syllables that need to be repitched are changed, and this is done in a graph where you can make sure there are no artifacts - and be as precise as you want. Moves within two steps are invisible, and while I may be a bad singer, I don't miss notes by a full step (unless I'm drunk).

    But the real issue here is that this song obviously wasn't 'tuned'. The funny thing is that its quite shitty: the lead vox is so pitchy that its kinda funny, and the high notes are sharp if anything. And on the background vocals (where' I regularly use pitch correction for tightness), in this instance they were so bad that I layered a synth choir over it to cover some of it up.

    So, to finalize:

    I've used many tuners in my day - on both my voice and other client's voices/instruments. I own AT4 and Samplitude's Elastic Audio, and used Melodyne for quite a bit. To me, they're tools just like EQ plugins or my outboard reverbs. I use this stuff all the time. But there is no tuning artifacts in this song.

    Be sure of what you're saying before you just call things out.

    and again, thanks for the compliments!

  4. First off, thanks for the compliments. They're greatly appreciated.

    Souliarc, nothing was automatcally tuned in this song. Actually, most pitch correction in popular music today isn't done automatically, but manually. Furthermore, the quality of a voice has little to do with the imprecision of pitch, and more to do with the performance, technique, and tonal qualities.

    That being said, I know I'm a terrible singer. I've corrected many a vocal passage in my day, just as I've quantized many a beat, and fixed many a performance mistake in a roll editor. I record and re-record again. Such is the nature of modern music.

    But I'm glad you liked the song anyway.

  5. Great, Great, Great, Great stuff! You have a very nice voice. Everything was stellar, lyrics included.

    First off, 10x the normal points for putting yourself out there, voice and all. Its easy to be critical of someone doing this, but I can't see why, as no one is willing to do it themselves.

    this is great and I've love to hear more like it- you got a fan here.

    And, kinda ot, but I thought I had an original idea with this whole original lyrics over vg tunes, as I have created 2 in the past year. I just didn't have the balls to release them as I wasn't sure how original lyrics would be received. (Pharmacy does NOT count LOL) BUT, thanks to silent and Star Salzman, I think I'll go ahead and throw mine out there.

  6. NoppZ holds true to his title in my mind: still one of the greatest of the 'new generation' of remixers.

    I love this shit! SO Creative. Its a definate pick-me-up from my tired state, this is fun as hell. I was doing some whacked out dance the first time I listened- I won't do it again because it will scare everyone.

    I think the reverb is a little cheap sounding (muddy), but other than that i wouldn't change a thing. Well, maybe some yelling and handclaps.

    Noppz, keep kicking ass please.

    Dale

    dale@oneupstudios.com

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