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Hm, now I'm curious about the original Japanese game. I might just import that from what I'm reading of some of the songs in that one.

Well, I kind've skirted some set theory by saying that by definition of cardinality there exists a bijection between the two sets - the equality comes as a consequence of the Cantor-Schroeder-Bernstein Theorem.

Bastards. I missed out on Acorn festival period, since I haven't played the game in a little while .

Well, I can't explicitly construct one, but one can talk about cardinality. The cardinality of [0, 1] = the cardinality of the real numbers (which is uncountably infinite). The cardinality of (0, 1) = [0, 1] - {0, 1} is also equal to the cardinality of [0, 1] by cardinal arithmetic. Similarly, the cardinality of (0, 1] = [0, 1] - {0} is also the cardinality of [0, 1]. Now, by definition of cardinality, two sets have the same cardinality if there exists a bijection between the two.

My guess is that it will go down by roughly the same percentage - so whereas the PS2 was $300 and now $130 (reflecting a ~60% price cut), the PS3 will go from $600 to ~$350. That is still quite a lot though, which makes you wonder. Also, it may depend on how fast blu-ray catches on, if at all. One of the driving factors for the PS2's price drops was getting it out there as a cheap DVD player. Sony may try to cut the price more in an attempt to increase the number of people who adopt blu-ray.

A dumb comment deserved a dumb response.

That would block the light completely then. Those things filter light except for a certain frequency, and a red laser would only shoot light at a different frequency (hence why it's a red laser and not blue).

I'm so fucked.

stfu about imitation, huh? You just don't like to hear about it so I have to stop? Sony stealing the idea of the virtual console is pretty notable I'd say, especially after what they did with their controller. Don't get me wrong - I'd say it's pretty known in OCR that I prefer Nintendo's offerings usually. I just don't see how an imitation comment has a rightful place in a PS3 discussion. As others have said, imitation is good for the industry, especially if it's something good. Also, it should be noted that Gametap has been offering a similar system on the PC with PC emulation of console games for over an year (a legit service).

Ok, stfu about imitation, and wtf is with the DS & PSP talk here? While Sony has had a bad track record with their customer policies, they had a notable improvement with the PSP over the PS2 (and I do know numerous in person people who have had their PS2 die on them early, some of them launch window PS2s). With a device as expensive as the PS3, I'm sure they realize that they can't get away with poor customer service like they originally did with the PS2.

*jumps on the bandwagon*

I do think Sony *is* learning. When I bought my PSP back in March, it had a shitload of dead pixels...probably over 30. My second one only had 2 dead pixels though, so I kept it. At least they accepted my trade in for free.

Why the hell is there Wii talk here. Let's get some more PS3 love here?

Ok, Smoke

Oh don't worry, I've been griping about the price for months It sucks that the price of the PS3 is so high, but if anything, it shows how much consumers want it. I'm sure many really are working to save up for it.

Whoa, lots of people travelling from afar coming. And Xerol, I thought I was going to be rooming with you guys? I said that I probably would do it, I just have to check to see whether I'll be getting a friend or two to come to MAGFest.

I'm sure there is, and for those that can stomache it, more power to you. It's just that a world where math can actually be fun and creative instead of the execise in repetition that I know it to be only exists for people who like doing it to begin with. Well, the creativity is usually seen outside the classroom. For an example, have you ever looked at math competition questions for various levels of schooling? Anyone with a high school level of knowledge is capable of answering a lot of them, yet they require thinking outside the box.

Well, it takes time to get to a point of mathematical maturity to do something original. Math is one of the few fields where it really is necessary to have things taught in a simple way so that you absorb the concepts before you can really dig into more complicated stuff. So you're taught stuff with polynomials and solving equations early for example, but in higher math, you get to define the notion of a polynomial as a general concept and do all sorts of crazy stuff with them (i.e. Galois Theory).

Wtf, I was gonna make a math thread. Fuck. So, what is this college algebra anyway? In many colleges, it is the lowest math class offered in a school (if you want to exclude statistics).

The price drop is only for Japan. Kutaragi (who should shut his mouth more often) said that the U. S. and Europe prices will remain the same, claiming that the consumers have come to gripes with the price.

It's not like you HAVE to buy them again if you have them on DVD already - they'll still play DVDs.

Oh...damn Sony. I guess that'll mean no PS3 purchase for 2 years then...

Awesome. I'll pick up a Japanese PS3 at launch if I can. I think I can deal with less hard drive space and spend the extra cash on games. Yeah, me too. Hearing that, I think I might actually buy a PS3 before an XBox 360 if that price change comes over to the US. $400 for a PS3, or even $430, would be really worth it.

This game's far from sucky. You just have to...try hard to appreciate it. Anyway, I got ZX too. I like the Metroid-like exploration, but the game could use a better map system. It's confusing as fuck. Right now I'm stuck in that place with the classic lava chase. Goddamit, that place pisses me off. I'll just find subtanks instead. With that said, how do you get that subtank in the forest? The one up the wall on the left? It just sits there and I can't figure out how to get it. Go to the platform under the subtank. There's a hidden passage around there.

*bows* Is that an in-store only deal, or is it also available through their website? Online deal, although you can do in-store pickup with it (you pay instore I think, but place an order online). Follow the instructions that I posted earlier (or find the thread on cheapassgamer.com )