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With most systems I'd agree with you. But after the 360 I would say you're 100% wrong about it being bad for PS3. Sure they get commission, but that doesn't mean it's a bad deal. I can't see Sony giving more than 90 days warrantee for the PS3 (and if they give a year then they're gonna have a problem...) so yea once again you're an idiot if you don't buy the service plan for the PS3. EDIT: so best buy dudes don't get commission, but we do at Game Crazy. Unless you plan on selling it.

Animal Crossing people: http://www.gametab.com/news/734057/

How does this make sense exactly? Like sony being on top for 2 generations hasn't caused that? Yeah, Sony has stagnated the market a lot more than Nintendo has ever done. Developers have been decrying Sony for a while for difficulty worse than Nintendo currently has been doing. It's like Sony forgot why developers started supporting them in the first place.

Damn good when someone else paid for it osnap

One could make the claim that Sony's consoles have a reputation for attracting games for the immature. However, let's not go towards that stupid route and keep this on topic.

We could always go there afterwards as one of our fun stops - it's only a 10 block walk or so from Grand Central right?

Bumping again, second page will not do!

I had a lot of hand-eye coordination problems from playing Warcraft 3 too intensely (I have held #1 on several ladders on various times in US East during competitive times) - there are times the mouse and/or keyboard just feels awkward & unnatural. After that problem, I gradually started playing PC games less and less and started to regain some of it, but I still have some problems to this day - I'm not someone who was naturally like that either, being a highly competitive tennis player previously, where hand-eye coordination is paramount. But again, this is an argument for elsewhere.

Can't we live in one happy OCR family? Edit: Here's a campout guide for the few OCRers looking to nab a PS3

Online they did.

Yeah, I shouldn't have made those off-topic comments, but neither should've Razumen. I won't respond in this thread, although I did also lose sight of my main argument in little of my last set of comments. I can't view it. What does it say? Best Buy cancelled all PS3 preorders via their website. The site the news bit was on was 1up.com, so I wonder if they block certain ISPs (I couldn't view 1up.com when I was at my alma mater and while I was on AOL).

Well, something along the lines of the Wiimote would be far more better for FPS IMO - you have even more freedom and you're not doing something as ridiculous as moving your mouse superfast to do something highly uncharacteristic of a supposedly human-controlled character. Anyway, look at how Best Buy drops the ball again: http://www.gametab.com/news/731358/

Keyboard & mouse is overrated. Nay sir, for FPS there is no greater thing. Why do you think the Resistance developers don't want it in their game? Because people who used it would wipe the floor with the other players, even if they had the same turning restrictions placed upon them. It's called not developing something like carpal tunnel syndrome. Keyboard & mouse far more easily facilitate problems with the awkward hand positions encouraged by fast games like FPS. I like to play my games comfortably, thank-you-very-much. You can get carpal tunnel syndrome just as easily from a gamepad as you can a mouse. Moot point. As for 'awkward hand positions' You do know you can move more than just your wrist? I call bullshit. Point me proof. Modern gamepads are designed with ergonomics in mind (i.e. the XBox 360 controller), so I highly doubt that that statement holds any water.

Keyboard & mouse is overrated. Nay sir, for FPS there is no greater thing. Why do you think the Resistance developers don't want it in their game? Because people who used it would wipe the floor with the other players, even if they had the same turning restrictions placed upon them. It's called not developing something like carpal tunnel syndrome. Keyboard & mouse far more easily facilitate problems with the awkward hand positions encouraged by fast games like FPS. I like to play my games comfortably, thank-you-very-much.

Keyboard & mouse is overrated.

Everyone is always picking on the girls of OCR, why am I not surprised? Anyway, bump for great justice.

Alright bump time - time for me to spoil this problem. So, the sum from n = 0 to N of 1/n! is always < e for all N. Now, 1/(N * N!) * sum(1/n!) - e (where sum(1/n!) is from n = 0 to N) = 1/(N * N!) - sum(1/n!, n > N) = 1/N! * (1/N - 1/(N+1) - 1/((N + 1)(N + 2)) - ...) = 1/N! * (1/(N * (N + 1)) - 1/((N + 1)(N + 2)) - 1/((N + 1)(N + 2)(N + 3) - ...), which can be shown to be > 0. Now, the fun part is suppose e is rational. Then e = p/q, where p is an integer and q is a natural number. Let N = q Then the sum from n = 0 to q of 1/n! < p/q < sum from n = 0 to q of 1/n! + 1/(q * q!) Then 0 < p/q - sum from n = 0 to q of 1/n! < 1/(q * q!) Then 0 < p * q! - (q + q * (q - 1) + ... + q!) < 1 However, the middle part is an integer, so that's a contradiction. Next question: (AIME 2001 Version II Problem 3) The sequence a1, a2, a3, ... is defined by a1 = 211, a2 = 375, a3 = 420, a4 = 523, an = an-1 - an-2 + an-3 - an-4. Find a531 + a753 + a975.

So how's the music anyone? I have the game in front of me (couldn't resist when I saw it for $38), but my PS2 isn't here atm.

But tomorrow...who can say. I think I'm going to be a tougher opponent from now on with my increased focus on my mathematics though.

Bahamut wins two vs. Johnderilll - strange games, I know he's better than how he played in our games tonight, so I'm not sure what went on.

Well, one thing that does concern me about blu-ray is that I heard the read speeds are slower than DVD.

Did you type that out right? Because I'm not sure what 1/(n * N!) means, since you're using n as the place holder for the summation expressions... unless I'm just being dumb. Oh yeah, the 1/(n * N!) should be part of the summation, so think of it as a summation of 1/n! + 1/(n * N!) If n = 0 1/(n * N!) = Invalid Err...fuck, it's 1/(N * N!), and this is outside of the summation.

Did you type that out right? Because I'm not sure what 1/(n * N!) means, since you're using n as the place holder for the summation expressions... unless I'm just being dumb. Oh yeah, the 1/(n * N!) should be part of the summation, so think of it as a summation of 1/n! + 1/(n * N!)

I just hope that hard drive installation crap doesn't become standard.

Bumpty bump - no takers on this question? I'll give one hint - show that the finite sum from n = 0 to N of 1/n! < e < 1/(n * N!) + the finite sum from n = 0 to N of 1/n! From there the nifty fun occurs.