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I like it, short and sweet. The performance didn't sound too mechanical, though the balance and volumes of the instruments seems to be a bit off. The flute sounds too loud to me, it kind of steps on other instruments. Orchestral music is not my strong suit, so I don't have specifics.
A well done remix so far.
Yeah I've just considered eq-ing. In fact I uploaded a version in which I've begun the process of trying to normalize the instruments.I'm far off from finished though. I'm still at that stage where I follow my gut with some of these things. The flute is the melody so I wanted it to be "heard" but now I'm going to begin a more critical method of mixing
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Hey you still using Mixcraft as a DAW. This is awesome. Also what vsts are you using?
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mickmoo, have have you gone through the manual yet? There's alot in there about what the acronyms mean and descriptions about the patches (butter legato, qleg, lyrical. expressive etc), as well as the features of the sampler. Or are you looking more for the orchestration side of things?
Orchestration side. Midi composition in general, but especially if someone has tutorialswith these libraries
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Not to hijack this thread, but are there any EW choir or orchestra tutorials anywhere? I have the library and I have no idea what I'm doing.
Also to the topic creator, East West is known for having at least 6 sales a year. It's very likely you could get 2 or even 3 libraries for the price of one ($500-700). It's what I did.
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Wow... guess we can't say
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This is more of a "cover" I didn't deviate much from the source material, it's not finished it's only about halfway done. Though I added some of my own parts... they sound like they work.
Also I need advice on how to mix for orchestra and how to add realism. Also how do you guys input staccato/rhythm sections... mine's kinda sloppy on a count of me doing it manually.
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New song:
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I can't give you anything constructive, but that's because I think it's perfect lol. Definite subscribe I love you work and its style. Also watching the Kirby museum tutorial vid. Thanks for that!
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This is the totally completed version of a song that was inspired by a novel I'm writing. I just wanted feedback on the compositional structure and some mixing tips. I haven't really mixed it except for some slight panning and volume changes
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This is perfect for a video game. I'm actually drafting ideas for an rpg, I've taken a break from the project, but this was motivating thanks!
What setup daw/vsts do you use?
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Just wondering, is there anyway to like input pre-rendered midi data into Wordbuilder standalone and then assign words to each individual note? Or is the only option I have to play each note in real time/record then edit?
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Awesome topic here are some cents of mine. (I'd say 2 but everytime I post on this forum I tend to have long posts)
Humans generally hate uncertainty, and creativity, literally constructing things and concepts from (usually) almost nothing is the most uncertain thing you can ever do. Especially if you do this for a living or are just getting in to it. But not only is there uncertainty in the seemingly infinite freedom you have in creating, but there's uncertainty in sharing your work. What does it mean if you can build a world of beautiful art if no one appreciates it. You can enjoy everything of your own creation, but what does it mean if no one else does. But that is why we do what we do, regardless of skill level there is fun to be had in this "frighting" freedom.
Personally, like Modus said I find writing fiction harder. Mostly though because I don't (have to) take my music composition seriously, and I'm still learning. There's absolutely no reason for me to be tough on myself or for me to write to please people yet. That said I thrive on feedback and seek it all the time...
I'm not scared of writing music. However, I do feel very outclassed by many composers because I rarely hear melodies or arrangements in my head. 99% of what I write comes from pure improvisation. This makes me feel inferior to people who can have an entire song in their head.I don't think that they are skills that build upon one another. What I mean is that, I feel that they are literally different ways of composition for people of different styles. Improv grants you more freedom and flexibility in the long run and it is much easier for you to start from scratch if you don't like the way its going. I've always seen people (like me sometimes) who hear things in their head and try to reproduce them as chasing some ideal state that might be doomed to fall flat (like pursuing a person who might not like you back). Mind you, there are people who hear things that will all the time work out on paper, for many people having the skill to do so or to replicate what is in your head is its own headache like proto kinda got at.
I'm still just a hobbyist, but when I first started I used what little I remembered of my meager theory and piano practice I remembered to create rifts and melodies without forethought and I have slowly transitioned to creating or making works from my head. What I've found personally... there's nothing lost in trying either method of composition. And I know you of all people know this, but as long as you get the job done at the end of the day and you know you gave it your all, that's all that matters (well and having fun).
No I enjoy writing music. What I do fear is not getting a response. This goes for other things as well. Recently I just have had to accept that sometimes I won't get a response but it's worth trying because if I don't try I'm absolutely not going to get any response.I'm a creature that thrives off of feedback and I feel I don't get it as often as I should, which kills me. I use to stop writing when I didn't get feedback from my friends. I know especially since I'm just starting out... no one wants to hear something that they either expect or know isn't going to sound as pleasant as something they would hear that has been produced. Because I'm a writer, I've started viewing music as worldbuilding, not just in the sense that my music helps me visualize my writing, but the music itself is another world for me to explore. It's propelled my internal motivation a ton. And at the end of the day, even if it's crappy, I rather enjoy listening to something I made. After all I did it... and hey it might be even better than the last thing I made.
It's great reading all the responses on this thread, and writing anything creative, be it words or music, is something that does scare me quite a bit. I love doing it of course, but a perfectionist part of me keeps thinking 'this melody is too boring' or 'this instrumentation isn't the best', and I end up with lots of ideas I can't bear to string together. In the end, I'll obsessively listen to a 8 bar passage over and over again, trying to tweak small parts here and there to match what I'm hearing in my head, though of course it hardly ever works out as planned. I suppose I'm secretly thinking 'if this isn't going to be good, then what's the point of doing it at all?', which probably isn't a very healthy mindset to have haha. And when I hear another composition I enjoy, I'm thinking in the back of mind 'will I ever be able to write something like that?'. Okay I think I'm starting to use this thread to voice my countless insecurities/inadequacies, so I'd better stop this post before it degenerates into precisely that.I think that creativity is all about embracing those insecurities in tandem with the freedom it grants you, because the insecurities I dont think will instantly go away. For me I know mine come from time, do I have enough time to improve and possibly make some type of living (maybe partly) from my craft. It might be similar for you, but if uncertainty comes from something you can't control embrace it. My caring makes me realize that I am in fact alive. That combined with progressive improvement that creates the "piratical" aspects of the creative experience.
From what I can tell, criticism, even constructive criticism, hurts ppl's confidence, which can turn them into perfectionists that - yes - make better music, but also have trouble being satisfied with their works and therefor finish fewer tracks.I know this applies to me. I started going over some of my old tracks the other day. Found a whole lot of great stuff that i just abandoned for whatever reason. Haven't subbed anything to ocr for at least a year. Haven't finished any tracks for my allegedly upcoming original album(s). Sure, there's rl and project reasons for this, but the time I spend just listening to my unfinished works and tweaking stuff could just as well be spent actually finishing stuff.
Dunno if I'm scared to write - I write a lot - but I do find myself discouraged when I hear good music. I keep thinking I could tweak my stuff to make it as good as the stuff I listen to. I don't want to publish it in any way until it sounds as good. I don't think that's what the artists intended.
Wonder what I - and others - actually need to get stuff done. Encouragement? More specific constructive criticism? A kick, somewhere? A muse? A promise of money? A fan club? A spine?
I know you probably know this as well, but all produced things are in part products of good internal motivation. If anyone is too scared to create (or in terms of other stuff just even produce work) they need to assess why it is they wanted to do the thing in the first place. For me a new song is a new opportunity to explore a new world and possibly augment my creative writing experience.
Great thread! Lots of interesting insights.I'm not afraid of writing my crappy music. It's fun. Maybe I'm in denial though, and mistake fear for boredom.
I've also finally noticed that when I'm making something and it seems crap at the time, it surprisingly often sounds a lot better the next day. So these days I just keep going instead of giving up. I'm also learning to not be afraid of editing anything I already wrote (I just keep a backup copy/a muted track of the previous version in case I want to go back).--Eino
Lol I'm pretty much exactly the same way. I started composing from boredom, with no real practical skill about 2 years ago. Just recently I have a system where I date drafts and store copies, really cool. I use to not be afraid to experiment, but now I really just don't give a fuck. I was starting to fall into an entrapping system of not progressing forward unless some arbitrary criteria was met, but now I have creative freedom to the freaking max.
Tl;dr
scared/intimidated/nervous? you have a reason why you started writing, evaluating your process and comparing it to others' shouldn't become your hindrance. All you need to do is remember why you started doing this, use it to motivate you.
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Crystal Caves and Commander Keen were great. There were a ton of others I can't remember though. Anyone remember that game with the spy, I played that ALL the time. I forgot what it was called. I had this disk of like 501 dos demos or something, at least 1/4th of the games were from Apogee, I use to just spend entire saturdays with my dad or a friend playing it.
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what library are you using?
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I think they're divorced now actually... which sucks they dated for like damn near a decade. How do you divorce if you've dated that long?
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I don't know if any of you have seen these videos on midi orchestration and composition but they're pretty good.
More or less this is about realistic performances with a midi orchestra (2 parts):
This is about composition, creating melodies and harmony this might be more valuable to those of you who are already proficient at approaching midi realism (4 parts):
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Nice Moseph... I'll look forward to your review of SSP!
Hey C&C, nice to see you, interesting blog!
Everything thing here ditto for me. I've not found a ton of feedback on session strings, not that I'm in the market for anything now but I would like to note what they can do. Also C&C awesome blog, I'll definitely take a look and comment later.
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That she is, good sir. That she is.
... but I'm married. Fuck.
Marriage definitely puts a damper on that... I think I'm going to wait until after grad school to get married, well at least so far that's what life has in store I'm thinking.
On topic (before I get modded >_<):
^Shit is hilarious (the picture is)
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I think Finale is sort of a piece of shit, and I sit next to the CEO of MakeMusic's daughter in my denture lab class D: Awkward.
Well is she at least hot? (that makes things less awkward... sometimes)
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For the best kickstart consider what type of music you want to write and how you want to go about it (mic recording, synths, samples) Also important is your music skill level, be it formal musical knowledge or practical instrumental ability, but most important of course is what do you wanna write?
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I love the grand feel too it! For some reason (and it's probably just me) it vaguely reminds me of Tales of Symphonia and Kingdom Hearts collectively lol. In any case it's great!
Also noob question, how do you get those glissandi do you have to input every note you glide through in at its proper speed, or do you have a patch/key switch for that?
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Nice. What is that, C major? (been practicing on scale recognition)
It's D flat major if I remember, I've always been bad at recognizing scales even when I end up playing them, go figure.
Scale recognition is something I'm trying to work on as well.
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I finally caught up. Watched all of season 9 yesterday after finishing season 8 last week. Let's just say RT been making my... er month. I love how the series and how it was taken from something hilariously whimsical to some epic serious business type shit. I just have questions.
1. What exactly is Tex? if she's a "shadow" how is she able to use AI (specifically omega) herself?
2. How would Epsilon have memories of other fragments, especially those who were created after him? Something that especially confused me in season 6 (which I've seen like 4 times now) is how Epsilon transmitted memories to Church that neither he nor Church had seen (like the convo between Wash and Delta in Recovery 1). This ties into your question Omega. Given what we know Eps is just a bunch of memories who can assume the form of the memories he has. So because Caboose and the others kinda helped fill in the blanks this is basically "like" the original church, but just a backup copy. He just hasn't actually experienced blood gulch he just has the memories somehow. But if the memories were all filled in verbally (even assuming that Caboose wasn't the only one who helped him remember) the memories still shouldn't be 100% perfect, and yet it seems like they are, its literally as if he's experienced everything, but he couldn't have if he's still just Epsilon taking the form of all those other AI and their memories.
3. I'm assuming Omega was the last AI produced given his name?
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another demo but this one really is just a snipit of an idea:
SSMB 3 Fortress Boss "Koopa the Unstoppable"
in Post Your Game ReMixes!
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This is a good arrangement of the material. I'm just starting out so I have no advice to give in terms of adding variations. Btw, I just got EWQL, do you have any tips for mixing it. Or hell midi orchestration in general?