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Spock is half-human, and I thought that was something that was completely ignored in the TOS movies. I think it's great that they finally have shown some of the conflict of his two cultures. Besides, such a look at Vulcans is not unprecedented. The name of the episode escapes me, but there was an episode in TNG where Picard took in the emotions of a Vulcan ambassador, and they were pretty intense there as well.

McCoy really was awesome.

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What "deep philosophical question" was present in Star Trek II? Or III? Or any of them? These are movies, it's supposed to be two hours of wham, bam, thank you ma'am, not discussion of existential issues. That's what the TV shows are for. Enterprise was canceled. Nemesis was the lowest grossing movie of the franchise, despite having the largest marketing budget. Star Trek was dead, and this movie has brought it back to life. Now they have a whole new universe to play with, one where the Federation has been significantly weakened with the destruction of one of its founding planets, and the Klingons are still the baddest muthafuckers in the galaxy. Do you see how potentially great this can be for the franchise?

I have to agree with Neko, about Pike and Star Trek in general. TNG was way too sterile as a series; DS9 was good, but just didn't have the mass appeal of a Picard-type character; Voyager was just terrible, and I can't say anything about Enterprise, I never saw an episode of it. It just didn't seem interesting at all. And the Star Trek movies were all hit-or-miss, with way more misses. First Contact was the only good TNG movie, with the others being really horrible. This new movie brought back the things that have been missing from Trek for the last twenty years: action, comedy (it's no coincidence that the most commercially successful Trek movie prior to this one was Star Trek IV)and sex appeal, but in an appropriate way: the obligatory sex scene with Kirk was actually pretty funny. I'm really looking forward to the next movie, and I hope Pike has an active role in it.

If you listen closely at 1:30, you can hear a hint of the theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdysH77YxFw

I'm fairly certain I am.

That would be accurate if Tyler Perry were actually an actor instead of a modern-day blaxploitation hack.

I think he meant that it was dumb to show George Kirk literally fly towards the screen when the Kelvin hit the Narada. I agree with him, it did cheapen what otherwise was an excellent opening. And yeah, the whole comic book tie-in is pretty weak, but like you said, it's more for the Trek fans. Otherwise, as soon as they started talking about the Borg, about 3/4 of the theater would have fallen asleep.

There's a 4-part comic book tie-in called "Countdown" where they expand on Nero's background. Bero was a miner, and his wife was pregnant with their son and on Romulus when it was destroyed. As for Nero's ship, it's called the Narada, and in the future, it was just a mining ship. But after Romulus is destroyed, Nero goes to a secret Romulan base where they've been working on a new ship. The ship incorporates stolen Borg technology which is why it's so formidable. It also has Nero's original ship inside of it; basically the spiky ship you see in the movie is a shell fit around the original ship, which is why it's so big (which is why he even has a drill, it's from the original ship).

Nero was so terrible because the movie was about introducing the new cast, so it was impossible to develop him. This was just the setup movie. Paramount has already green-lit a sequel, and we all know what that means: Klingons. Holy cow, that will be amazing. SPOILERS!!! As for the timeline, what this means is that everything that we've known about Star Trek has changed. The destruction of Vulcan in the past isn't undone, so the future (TNG-Voyager, and even TOS) is totally different. Depending on how far they take this thing, we'll see just how different.

As a full-blown Trekkie, I was extremely satisfied with this movie. It was fantastic. I agree that some of the science stuff was off the mark (especially the explosion thing), but that's always been part of Star Trek, so you have to take the good with the bad. Speaking of bad, TYLER FUCKING PERRY AS THE COMMANDER OF STARFLEET?! I audibly groaned in the theater. Other than that, it was so great. Highly recommended. EDIT- I just read Ebert's review. Yeah, what a grumpy old man reaction to the movie.

Zelda doesn't work in a timeline at all. The way I've always seen it is that it's the same story told over and over again, and every time it's passed down it chages. It is a legend, after all.

I always thought that Anakin fulfilled the prophecy by bringing balance to the Force. Even though he took the detour as Vader, it was him that ultimately destroyed Sidious.

I'll probably add you tonight. @ BardicKnowledge- Another good way to use her stomps is after you connect a target combo in midair. I haven't perfected the timing for it yet, but it's been done to me a few times.

Yeah, Star Trek canon is out of whack because the writers/producers just choose to whatever the hell they want as opposed to actually having their stories make sense.

Alternate timeline? Man, this movie just keeps getting worse and worse. I completely agree with you Lotd2242 about the stupidity of "re-capturing the magic" through a retconn. The thing about Star Trek is that these continuity problems don't arise naturally, but they always make some dumbass decision that leaves fans scratching their heads (like the Data/B4 nonsense in Nemesis).

Yeah, I'm not optimistic about the new Star Trek movie. Will they have to retconn the actual history of the Enterprise, since Kirk wasn't her first captain? And I don't get why everyone finds Sisko's actions in In the Pale Moonlight so terrible. I mean, have you considered that Sisko had the responsibility to lie, considering the Federation was doomed without the Romulans?

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Deep Space Nine is the hardest of them to get into, but I think it has the greatest payoff in the end out of all the series. The "new-adventure-a-week" format of TNG wears out, and doesn't allow you to really get engrossed in any storylines.Also, the lack of character development for anyone besides Worf, Data or Picard really hampered the series. Voyager, to me at least, started really strongly and then just petered out at the end. The initial concept plus memorable enemies like the Kazon really hooked me. The show crashed the instant they entered Borg Space. That led to Seven of Nine, who replaced an interesting character (Kess) with tits. Not to mention that the Borg had been established as the strongest race by far in the Star Trek universe, yet they destroy that canon twofold with Species 8472 (which was really terrible), and by having one lonely starship actually survive the trip. One Borg cube destroyed 39 ships at Wolf 359. And Voyager can destroy an entire transwarp hub, even with future technology? Come on. Deep Space Nine starts off slowly, it's true. They tried the TNG advemture-a-week thing, they even had Q in an episode. When they introduced the Dominion, that's when it picked up, and the introduction of Worf kicked it into high gear. I liked the look at the darker side of the future, because it allowed for the conflict that really shows character growth and development. And moreso than any other Trek, it had secondary characters that really drove the show forward. Weyoun, Dumar, Martok, Admiral Ross, Kai Winn, and who can forget maybe two of the best characters in Star Trek or sci-fi in general: Garak and Gul Dukat. It all came together so well in the end; not perfectly, but considering all the story threads, the end of the series was still a huge accomplishment.

Well, look at it this way: If the Dominion conquers the Federation, those principles cease to exist because the Federation no longer exists. You're right, it is hypocritical. But I think life as a hypocrite is better than death as a principled man. Your beliefs really don't mean much when you're dead.

Yeah, I always found the fact that Quark owns the bar on Deep Space Nine weird, since he's unabashedly profit-driven. And for that matter, how do Starfleet officers get latinum to gamble with? Ha, maybe the answer to all these questions is just a simple oversight on the part of the writers.

In defense of the Federation and its actions taken during the Dominion War, they really had no choice. The Dominion was vastly superior to the combined forces of the Federation and the Klingons, and once the Breen joined the war they were stronger than the Federation-Klingon-Romulan alliance as well. It took an act of "God" to save the Alpha Quadrant the first time, and a full scale rebellion on Cardassia Prime to save it the second time. In the face of the overwhelming might of the Dominion, I think that what Sisko did was justified. After all, ideals don't mean much if you're living under Dominion occupation. To Atomic Dog's point, I think you're confusing the Federation with Starfleet. Starfleet is a military organization, so yeah, every job in Starfleet is aimed towards a military end. However, not all Federation citizens are in Starfleet: Picard's brother ran a vineyard, Sisko's father had a restaurant, etc. Now those business ventures certainly raise other questions regarding how currency works in the Federation, but they don't seem to have any particular military aim at heart. Aslo, I am upset that Wacky's list did not include "Far Beyond the Stars" or "The Visitor", arguably the two best episodes of Deep Space Nine. And Voyager is God-awful. Way to emasculate one of the best sci-fi villains ever.

I can't remember exactly why this picture was made, but it makes me laugh every time I look at it.