Powerlord Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 i love how much hp overcharges for their computers.quad: 210$ retail, you can find them for as cheap as 190 if you don't get the new g0 stepping model...since most people don't even know what that means and as such will never notice the difference ram: going expensive, about 60$ for ocz plat hd dvd: they were on sale for like 10 bucks a while back, but who'd even want one? call it 50 bucks on ebay. burner: 30$~ hd's: no one sells 360g drives, so two 500g drives is like 180 max. vista: 90$ 8500gt: a good one is like 70 bucks, but you can get them for as low as 45$. we'll call it 70, although you can get a good 8600gt for the same price and actually play modern games with it. motherboard: a way better mobo than you'll get is like 100$ (asus p5n-e). the ones that hp puts in their computers are like 40 bucks if you actually purchased one like it. assuming it's the one i think it is, you can actually buy one for around 42$ through geeks.com, as of a month or two ago. cheap case w/ bad psu like in the picture: 50$ or so. hp media center remote: they couldn't pay me to use their crap, hp's optical stuff is worse than trash. never works from more than a foot or two away. it's not even a standard transmitter, it's infrared - and it's about as powerful as the old infrared transmitters on laptops. total: w/ a better mobo by far, more hd space, better components as a whole, it's not quite 825$ not counting shipping. kill the hd drive, spend some money on a graphics card, go with better ram, don't get a quad unless you are doing heavy video rendering with multithreading-optimized applications. still a rip, considering this is a used computer that's been 'recertified'. I'm well aware that some of the parts suck, particularly on the case and RAM side. I stumbled upon this computer while I was pricing out my own components (although I was looking at a Wolfdale Dual-Core because Quad-Core is overkill for me). I'll be honest, I never would have bought that system if it hadn't included the monitor as part of one of NewEgg's deals. I'm still using a CRT that has terrible glare.
prophetik music Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 i saw the monitor deal - for the amount you save with that, i suppose it's not that bad =)
Bahamut Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Ever joined a server with some funky hit detection? It may have altered cl_lagcompensation: http://www.wegame.com/watch/TF2_Hitboxes/
Rambo Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Ever joined a server with some funky hit detection? It may have altered cl_lagcompensation: http://www.wegame.com/watch/TF2_Hitboxes/ Do you think this explains face stabs at all? Also... tonight was one of my worst tf2 nights in ever. Aside from an absolutely epic win against a more skilled team on goldrush.
Bahamut Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Do you think this explains face stabs at all?Also... tonight was one of my worst tf2 nights in ever. Aside from an absolutely epic win against a more skilled team on goldrush. Nope, I think Valve just fails at adequate back hit detection.
Pyrion Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Nope, I think Valve just fails at adequate back hit detection. The problem is, it's not tied to what the client sees. The higher your interpolation settings are, the greater the discrepancy between what you see and what you get. Like firing rockets, for example. If your cl_interp and cl_interp_ratio are left at their defaults, then there's a noticeable delay between clicking the fire button and actually firing the rocket. Set both to 0.1 and try it.
Bahamut Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 The problem is, it's not tied to what the client sees. The higher your interpolation settings are, the greater the discrepancy between what you see and what you get.Like firing rockets, for example. If your cl_interp and cl_interp_ratio are left at their defaults, then there's a noticeable delay between clicking the fire button and actually firing the rocket. Set both to 0.1 and try it. So what is a good setting then? Does this affect whether the server becomes a custom server or not?
atmuh Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 whats the big deal its not like its a constant complaint or even something that the common person notices i could just be saying this because when i think of input lag and the like i think of brawl
Bahamut Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 I've definitely seen this in action multiple times, and I found this link elsewhere actually, stemming from complaints about the hitbox on another forum I frequent.
Rambo Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 whats the big deal its not like its a constant complaint or even something that the common person noticesi could just be saying this because when i think of input lag and the like i think of brawl As a sniper, let me assure you that it isn't so uncommon. When you miss 40 rounds out of 200 with a minigun you might not notice, but when you miss insta-killing someone with every 5th fully-charged headshot... it's a little discouraging.
Triad Orion Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 As a sniper, let me assure you that it isn't so uncommon.When you miss 40 rounds out of 200 with a minigun you might not notice, but when you miss insta-killing someone with every 5th fully-charged headshot... it's a little discouraging. Or, if you're like me, you miss every fully charged headshot with a sniper rifle. XD ...Granted around 95% of that is me just being a lousy sniper. The other 5% is hit detection to some degree. Like I could swear I have a perfect shot lined up and somehow it misses entirely or doesn't kill. *Shrugs*
atmuh Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 so i guess i wont be playing much for a while i need to rma my video card someone come over my house so i can punch them in the face
prophetik music Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 no, his gpu is temping way out all the time. the 4870s are hot cards, but his damned fan barely works
Dhsu Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 But like Pyrion said (in IRC I think), if that were the case, it'd probably just flat-out freeze. I've had my card overheat while playing TF2 (overclocked lol) and it just straight up crashes.
prophetik music Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 But like Pyrion said (in IRC I think), if that were the case, it'd probably just flat-out freeze. I've had my card overheat while playing TF2 (overclocked lol) and it just straight up crashes. ...what? i was under the impression that atma's card was temping out during normal usage, let alone in a game.
atmuh Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 STOP TALKING ABOUT ME WITH NO KNOWLEDGE i ram memtest and my ram is fine so the only explanation is that its some weird problem with my vid card (i put tf2 on the same settings that i ran it with my radeon 9200 for a week and it still happened) im overnightin it to newegg tomorrow
Dhsu Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Hey YOU'RE the one who said it was your RAM. Also again did you get ATITool like I told you. If it's just a problem with the fan drivers, getting a new one is not going to fix anything.
Bahamut Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Just so you all know, I won't be around for Saturday - I'm going to be at Atlantic City for the day. If you want the server to fill up, just stay on and play till others come join in.
Powerlord Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Hmm, my new computer wasn't too bad playing TF2 last night. Then again, I set my display to a widescreen resolution, but to one of the lower ones. Still, the animation and load times were better than my old computer.
Dhsu Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Just so you all know, I won't be around for Saturday - I'm going to be at Atlantic City for the day. If you want the server to fill up, just stay on and play till others come join in. We'll need someone else to ban Rambo when he comes on.
Drack Posted July 12, 2008 Posted July 12, 2008 Joining this party extremely late. Just bought Orange Box. Never played a lick of TF2, but I kick quite a bit of ass in Unreal Tournament.
Bahamut Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 Alright so I'm back. Thankfully, if I lost anything at Atlantic City, it was ~$5, and my parents actually won money for once! So more to the point, I've noticed if I'm not around, there aren't admins around for a long period of time in the games. So my remedy for that is to select more admins! I'm not completely sure who'd be good picks yet, so don't get on my case to make you (reading this post) an admin.
Rambo Posted July 13, 2008 Posted July 13, 2008 So more to the point, I've noticed if I'm not around, there aren't admins around for a long period of time in the games. So my remedy for that is to select more admins! I'm not completely sure who'd be good picks yet, so don't get on my case to make you (reading this post) an admin. I nominate Dhsu. He's on quite a bit every day and has displayed a lot of maturity and composure regarding rule abuse and fair play. Dhsu is an accommodating man of the people!
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