duskvstweak Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 So, I'm taking a Pro Tools class at my school for the year and I was just wondering what the common opinion/advice is around OCR. Have many of you used it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I had to use it in college. For recording and editing it's quite good, but if you're doing a ton of composition then there are generally better options. That being said, I still thought the piano roll was better than the one in Logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexstyle Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I've used versions 7 and 8, couldn't tell you about 9 (the latest). I really like it when doing straight-up recording and mixing, but, like Andrew mentioned, it's not great for composition (or OC ReMixing). It can be done, no doubt, but there are better tools for that job. Plus, if you go the VST- or AU-based hosting route (Logic, Cubase, FL Studio, whatever), you'll get a lot more fantastic freebie plugins to choose from. You can't get much in the way of free RTAS (the Pro Tools format) plugins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I had to use it in a Music Production class. I hated it. The audio editing is nice but that's really all it's good for. xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrypnyk Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I had to use it in college. For recording and editing it's quite good, but if you're doing a ton of composition then there are generally better options. This. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshaggyfreak Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I used Pro Tools for handful of years and it's still considered an industry standard in recording studios. If you're just working with audio, it's a great DAW but MIDI production isn't really its strong point. If you are looking to work in a recording studio, it's definitely worth learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaris Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I used Pro Tools for handful of years and it's still considered an industry standard in recording studios. If you're just working with audio, it's a great DAW but MIDI production isn't really its strong point. If you are looking to work in a recording studio, it's definitely worth learning. Agreed. (also agree with Skryp and Zircon) I've used it in college. Was great for live recording and that's what I used it for. For home audio production and composition there are much better options in terms of usability and features else where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ectogemia Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 One of my old roommates had to use ProTools for just about everything (industry standard! mmrhhmrhm!!), and he hated it, but mostly because of all of its proprietary wankery. He did comment on how powerful its recording and audio editing features were, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaris Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The "industry standard" comes from how widely used it has been in recording studios for a very long time. I've used just about every DAW on the market for full blown songs. Most DAW's nowadays just copy features from each other, so there aren't massive differences in terms of features between each DAW. Pro Tools as an "industry standard" is really more of a historical thing IMO. I don't mind using it in live recording sessions in a studio but I would not use for full blown compositions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ectogemia Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The "industry standard" comes from how widely used it has been in recording studios for a very long time. I've used just about every DAW on the market for full blown songs. Most DAW's nowadays just copy features from each other, so there aren't massive differences in terms of features between each DAW. Pro Tools as an "industry standard" is really more of a historical thing IMO. I don't mind using it in live recording sessions in a studio but I would not use for full blown compositions. Well, he was a recording arts student, and the department had to choose a standard DAW so that the students and profs could communicate their project files reliably. As far as I know, very few of the recording arts students in his program actually used Pro Tools outside of class. Most used Logic since they all had Macs anyway. And none used my beloved FL Studio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannthr Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Unrivaled editing features makes it a necessary evil. Know it, more importantly, know the shortcuts by heart. If you know PT shortcuts, you will be able to walk into almost any post-production or studio job and rock it. If you don't know PT shortcuts and you walk into a job, you'll look amateur navigating drop menus. Also, many DAWs let you change their shortcuts to mimic PT's workflow (PT you can't change shortcuts, so they're the same everywhere you go). It needs a lot of work, even 9. I teach at a Recording Arts College in their Video Game Sound Design program and we train kids to use ProTools only because it's a necessary evil. Otherwise, we train in Cubase which has unique tools appropriate for Game Audio. Push to use VST only if possible, RTAS and AU will be the death of you if you want to do game audio as a career (in games, you need shit to be batch-able and there are no good batch processors that utilize RTAS or AU). Its editing features and it's really freeform signal flow really accommodate the studio workflow, not to mention that many crusty studio managers have been using it since it was Sound Designer... Good luck and enjoy what you can from it (make it look pretty if you get bored) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duskvstweak Posted September 5, 2011 Author Share Posted September 5, 2011 Thanks for all the pointers/comments. It's good to get some non-Pro Tools aurguments in, since the professor in my class is in love with the program. I'll be taking what you guys said to heart. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshaggyfreak Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 The biggest problem with Pro Tools right now is Avid's support of it. During the past couple years, they have become quite slow to fix various issues. This fact has been doubled for Mac users with every major release of OSX since it seems to be taking them much longer to get a stable version of Pro Tools to work with each upgrade. I'm actually selling my Digi 002R with Pro Tools LE 8 since I've moved on to other DAWs about a year ago. While I know i can use the 002R with software other than Pro Tools, I felt it was time to move on to something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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