PixelPanic Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) New remix based on this song from Final Fantasy III Criticize to full scrutiny! Edited February 17, 2013 by PixelPanic Quote
Mirby Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Good song. Wonder what you made it for? ;D Quote
PixelPanic Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 Good song. Wonder what you made it for? ;D Gee, I wonder Quote
Kruai Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Awesome! I haven't heard this genre before. Very nice work so far. To my ears, though, the chiptune sound clashes with the guitar... perhaps that the tuning of the guitar? Quote
PixelPanic Posted February 9, 2013 Author Posted February 9, 2013 Awesome! I haven't heard this genre before. Very nice work so far. To my ears, though, the chiptune sound clashes with the guitar... perhaps that the tuning of the guitar? More than likely. My guitarist's D string broke so he just tuned an extra G string to a D. It sounded okay when recording, but in mixing it does seem wonky. I'll get on rerecording that. Quote
Brandon Strader Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Even if you used a different string (G for D) it shouldn't have sounded out of tune... odd, sure, but not out of tune. You need to make absolutely sure that all of the strings are properly tuned before recording. With a real tuner, a DAW's tuner, or a VST's built-in tuner (like Guitar Rig's tuner)... There are some other issues but the guitars being out of tune is straight up the most important issue with the mix, so best of luck! Buy some new strings if you need to! Quote
PixelPanic Posted February 9, 2013 Author Posted February 9, 2013 Even if you used a different string (G for D) it shouldn't have sounded out of tune... odd, sure, but not out of tune. You need to make absolutely sure that all of the strings are properly tuned before recording. With a real tuner, a DAW's tuner, or a VST's built-in tuner (like Guitar Rig's tuner)... There are some other issues but the guitars being out of tune is straight up the most important issue with the mix, so best of luck! Buy some new strings if you need to! the thing is, the string would detune every couple minutes since it was looser, so it could be the final one I used wasn't tuned soon enough. I'm gonna get my guitarist to borrow my extra strat and rerecord it. Also I'll check the effects I'm using on Guitar Rig and see if any of them have a pitch bend or detune. Quote
Brandon Strader Posted February 9, 2013 Posted February 9, 2013 Also I'll check the effects I'm using on Guitar Rig and see if any of them have a pitch bend or detune. Tuner should have a little tuning fork icon, it's not a component in Guitar Rig -- it's a tool. Pitch pedal and detune have their uses, but not for this particular issue. Quote
PixelPanic Posted February 17, 2013 Author Posted February 17, 2013 Updated version, please continue comments and criticisms Quote
PixelPanic Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Here, this one ISN'T out of tune as far as I know. Quote
timaeus222 Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Yeah, the lead guitar, at least, is still flat by a few cents. Quote
PixelPanic Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Yeah, the lead guitar, at least, is still flat by a few cents. Yeah, that parts been giving me trouble Quote
Argle Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Rhythm guitar still seems off, though better. Rather than retrack maybe just try to pitch shift it into tune. Lead guitar is noticeably off. It caused my cat to attack my face (ok not really). I'd say at this point just run it through some pitch correction software. I get the punk vibe you're going for, but ya still gotta be in tune. Edited February 19, 2013 by Argle Quote
PixelPanic Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Rhythm guitar still seems off, though better. Rather than retrack maybe just try to pitch shift it into tune. Lead guitar is noticeably off. It caused my cat to attack my face (ok not really). I'd say at this point just run it through some pitch correction software. I get the punk vibe you're going for, but ya still gotta be in tune. The pitch correction, which didn't even know existed, so thank you, worked for my lead part, but it's registering all sorts of wrong notes for my rhythm, so I'll do what I can. Thanks! Quote
Argle Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Melodyne can handle polyphonic material like guitar chords. If you want to send the rhythm guitar track to me I'll be happy to run it through melodyne. Quote
PixelPanic Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 Melodyne can handle polyphonic material like guitar chords. If you want to send the rhythm guitar track to me I'll be happy to run it through melodyne. If you could, that would be positively radical, I'll PM the track. Quote
Brandon Strader Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 This would be the point where, if this was a resub on the panel, I think a jooj would have said to check into Shreddage 2 or a similar midi guitar library. As far as OCR goes the guitars need to be in tune and sound pretty decent, if not very good. The tuning is still way off, and it's something you have to have an ear for before you even start recording. If you record guitar like the part at 1:51 and you can't tell that it is out of tune, then you need to take a step back and practice a lot more before recording so you can get an ear for playing guitar... it doesn't help if you practice out of tune either. You need to get yourself a tuner, and make sure you have all of the correct strings in each spot (don't use a B string as a G string or whatnot). It's probably fine for the Cid album but it wouldn't fly as an OCR mixpost, not yet anyway... Don't give up. And don't use auto-tune/melodyne to try to fix it. Quote
PixelPanic Posted April 14, 2013 Author Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) Here is a new version of the song. I didn't change any tuning stuff but I did change the drums significantly and I did more mixing. Please criticize, as always, to fullest scrutiny. PS Also got rid of the guitar in the bridge because it sucked and I'm glad it's gone. Edited April 14, 2013 by PixelPanic Quote
PixelPanic Posted September 28, 2013 Author Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) HEY WHAT THIS SONG CAME BACK WHUH-OH (link removed) Should probably clarify this is A VERY DIFFERENT SONG but it is A) Based off the same track Made for the same album and C) The same genre so I just used this thread again. Edited October 8, 2019 by PixelPanic Quote
Brandon Strader Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 PLEASE tune the guitar, and record the rhythm twice and hardpan it, and put some audible bass in there. Quote
PixelPanic Posted September 28, 2013 Author Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Your advice of tuning the guitar doesn't make any sense, it IS tuned. If it sounds untuned, I don't get how. Also, the guitar IS hardpanned Edited September 28, 2013 by PixelPanic Quote
Brandon Strader Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 You can't hardpan the same track, it'll just turn mono. You gotta record it 2 separate, unique times. And the guitar IS still badly out of tune. All of the guitar tracks will need to be re-recorded, it's not something you'll be able to fix digitally. Quote
timaeus222 Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 The lead guitar might be a bit off-tune, yeah, if that's what you're looking at primarily. Quote
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