Esperado Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 https://soundcloud.com/jesse-mitchell-3/esperado-feat-syllix-freedom for last months Rwts compo, Its a remix of "Still Alive" from the incredible Mirrors Edge OST. I decided to go a trancy route with it. I figured Id let you guys rip it up and give me some juicy feedback while I wait for this rounds results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esperado Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 ill give it a bump just for good measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozovian Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I've been working a mix of the same source. Mirror's Edge needs more attention, it's a beautiful game with an amazing soundtrack. Too bad the other tracks make it so hard to grasp the melodies that are there. There's a whistly lead that's kind'a painful, and a lot of excessive and odd filtering on stuff, like the wrong things sounding muffled or hipassed, or just filtered too much. Too much is actually a good description of a lot of what's wrong with this on the mixing level. The amount of side-chaining becomes awkwardly at 2:17. The sounds themselves are pretty, especially in the break. Arrangement-wise, it took me almost a minute to recognize the source. The recurring little melody might be source, but it's a bit too generic imo, it made me think Robert Miles rather than Lisa Miskovsky or the guy that made most of the soundtrack. Once past that, it works fine. The bass is a little overly active. Might work, but it messes with the rhythm a bit too much. It doesn't have to blindly follow the beat or anything, but it should behave a little more consistently. The leads are buried. I get that they're supposed to be soft, but they're a bit too soft when plenty of other instruments, like the rhythmic pad and the bass dominate the frequency range the leads should have. Source in the intro, fixing mixing. Pretty cool stuff. .D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I can't really take a look at this at this particular moment, but don't be afraid to automate the volume and some EQ bands of certain instruments to adjust to sections in your remix, and then automate them back to where they were when the section is over, once you finally like the EQ and volume on every instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esperado Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 it really does need more love, if even just from listeners. im excited to see what you come up with! Alright, ill see what i can come up with in the way of rearranging it a bit and trying to work on mixing! thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byproduct Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) - - but don't be afraid to automate the volume and some EQ bands of certain instruments to adjust to sections in your remix, and then automate them back to where they were when the section is over Agreed, although if I have an instrument that needs to have its EQ changed in between sections, I find it easier to have several EQ plugins for the one instrument and just turn them on and off as needed. Saves a lot of trouble compared to automating EQ bands or such. Sure it's not as resource efficient (takes more memory and maybe cpu), but who's running out these days. Edited March 26, 2013 by Byproduct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Agreed, although if I have an instrument that needs to have its EQ changed in between sections, I find it easier to have several EQ plugins for the one instrument and just turn them on and off as needed. Saves a lot of trouble compared to automating EQ bands or such. Sure it's not as resource efficient (takes more memory and maybe cpu), but who's running out these days. I actually do the automation to save room for effects if I feel the need to add more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esperado Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 do you guys usually automate during or after tracking? I've had some messy situations with automation before I'm done , like if I have to add new segments or move them around I have pretty much undo all my automation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpocalypse Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 do you guys usually automate during or after tracking? I've had some messy situations with automation before I'm done , like if I have to add new segments or move them around I have pretty much undo all my automation You're going to have to delete your automation a lot. It's a pain but if you don't it limits you from doing the changes you need to make. Keep mental notes of what you want to do and save it for the end of your session. Each time you draw them they are going to be a little different and you will get better faster at making them. Nice improvements in such a small amount of time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozovian Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Any decent DAW will typically have some way of moving automation along with the writing. If it's a pattern-based DAW like FL or just about anything tracker-derived, you should just avoid writing everything in the same pattern so you can move stuff around without worrying about screwing up the automation. I'm not an FL person so I can't say what other means FL has for moving automation. If it's a region-based DAW like Cubase or Logic, you should be able to lock the automation to the regions or have the option to move the automation along with the regions you move. There may be some abrupt changes, such as volume jumps, if the automation doesn't line up close enough, but this can usually be fiddled with after the move. And yeah, automation isn't final until the track is final, so you'll likely have to fiddle with it a lot anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Yep, automations in FL are separate clips, so just move them around to line up with the new placements if you need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esperado Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 thanks garpocalypse! yea, I use ableton for now, it seems to bring automation with most of the time, but it still gets choppy sometimes. guess it makes sense to just delete it and redo it at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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