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False copyright claims on YouTube?

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This is weird. I looked at two of my YouTube videos yesterday, and, not that I care too much that it's the case anymore, but some company called "Kontor New Media Music" claimed that I used their music in those two videos. I don't even know who they are, but they claimed that Sixto's remix called 'Twin Blood' from Double Dragon II sounded like one of their songs, "Steel Shadows-Farewall (Original Mix)". Um, what? I disputed both claims, stating specifically that I gave credit in the proper way to Sixto and OCR (i.e. I gave enough info to locate the remix by copy+paste in google or youtube). Anyways, they just denied the claim and maintained that what they designated as infringement was 'right', even though I've never heard of their music. "Original Mix"? I suspect dubstep or hip hop :lol:

So I checked out who other people thought they were.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/youtube/GQTDAGj0zXA

Anyone got any insight into them and how... genuine they may or may not be?

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I don't know how to deal with those. Don't dispute it further because if you do and it's rejected, you (wrongly in this case) will get copyright strikes. I don't know how to get a human being to resolve it. We can investigate further at some point, but it's just a point of annoyance for now.

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Reading through that google thread, it seems that people had success directly contacting the copyright claimant. It's a 3 year old post, but try the email address on the second-to-last post.

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Well...

Okay, so I looked up the song that they claimed was theirs. They ripped straight from '

'. Here's what happened---they ripped the remix, renamed it to Steel Shadows-Farewall (Original Mix), did whatever with it to license it (maybe), and made the copyright claim. Of course it matches, because the audio is exactly dead-on. Scam. Sounds like a scam.

Here's what I emailed the company (Timo.Reiche@kontornewmedia.com).

Hi,I want to get more information on what happened with three particular copyright claims, and maybe we can clear this up. I'm not going to claim I'm 100% sure, but I am fairly certain that they are false. Here is what happened, in order:

1. The entity Kontor New Media Music claims, twice, that I used one of their songs, called Steel Shadows-Farewall (Original Mix).

2. I disputed it.

was published October 1, 2010.
was published June 11, 2011. I happened to use the same remix in both videos, but that's irrelevant.

3. The entity claimed that I wrongly disputed them.

4. I looked up what Steel Shadows-Farewall (Original Mix) actually was. I got this. http://www.beatport.com/track/farewa...al-mix/5654450 It's a direct rip of the song the entity claimed to own. You can google "Steel Shadows-Farewall (Original Mix)" and you'll see it on Beatport, Amazon, etc. The release date is claimed to be August 18, 2014 on Beatport as well as Amazon. The entity even claimed it a third time on the original remix video. Here is a previous claim that is exactly identical, but published on April 03, 2013. So, it's clear that two identical copies of one song were uploaded onto Beatport, Amazon, etc.

5. Here's the original form of the remix, in full:

, published August 6, 2009. You can tell because the claim is somehow applied there too (I'm guessing it was made on April 03, 2013). Not to mention it's obvious the remix was first published at least 5 years ago, and this claim came up about a year ago. Here is proof. http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01506 This is that same remix, which was published on September 16, 2006.

So one question that I have is... did something happen where the same remix was downloaded, twice, renamed, and reuploaded it under a new title for the end/outcome of selling it, and additionally getting ad revenue on three different videos?

And just to be absolutely clear, I credited OverClocked ReMix (OC ReMix) in the following way, including both the artist and the unique website name:

BGM: Double Dragon II - Twin Blood by Sixto Sounds ~ OC ReMix

...which, when googled or searched on youtube, gives the remix video right away, or at least on the top of the first page. So, it is in accordance with the OC ReMix FAQ, and the important/relevant parts of the website FAQ are:

http://ocremix.org/info/Frequently_A...copyrighted.3F

http://ocremix.org/info/Frequently_A...how.2C_etc..3F

http://ocremix.org/info/Frequently_A..._OC_ReMixes.3F

Therefore, I am not infringing on the copyrights of OverClocked ReMix, so that's all fine and dandy. It's only concerning me and the entity you represent.

The overall timeline of publishing dates:

September 16, 2006 - Original ReMix's publish date

http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01506

August 6, 2009 - Original ReMix video's publish date

October 1, 2010 - My first associated video's publish date

June 11, 2011 - My second associated video's publish date

April 03, 2013 - Copyright claim, probably of the 2009 video

August 18, 2014 - Copyright claim, maybe of both of my videos (2010, 2011)

Please clear up this confusion, because I disputed both of my own copyright claims and they were both wrongly rejected. Additionally, if I'm not mistaken, it is illegal to make ad revenue on a remix without, as one of the options allow, providing royalties via something like the Harry Fox Agency, for example, to the original composer. Well... that illegal action is currently happening on these two videos, and on the original remix video---these claims themselves are illegal.

Please get back to me, thanks.

Even if they don't reply, it's not something I need to worry about, though I am pretty annoyed that they're trying to uphold a false claim (out of like 10+ total), having gotten away with it for over a year now.

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I think you should send it anyway. It doesn't hurt to try; especially if it's your song! Those douchebags have NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER (except for those fake rights) to steal what's rightfully yours. That's just me.

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I think you should send it anyway. It doesn't hurt to try; especially if it's your song! Those douchebags have NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER (except for those fake rights) to steal what's rightfully yours. That's just me.

Well, actually it's Sixto's remix, but my provision was that I credited OCR properly, so really, I would be doing this for someone else's track, on one of my videos. =P

I sent the email to the company instead of YouTube, and no reply for 2 weeks now. Supposedly, they replied when other people tried, so... we'll see.

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