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Jivemaster will add some comments to his vote. Soon-ish. No, I ran it by Fishy after it passed and asked if the resubbed version was album-worthy, and we agreed it was. You have a spot on the FF9 album with the track if you'd like it. Send a WAV to Fishy and/or me, if you'd like to be on.

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First things first, the burden of elaborating on the arrangement and how the source tunes are used in the piece is entirely up to the artist. Try as we might, we can't necessarily divine how & where everything is used here, so unless you explicitly list things out in an arrangement that's a medley or has a lot of song tradeoffs, you run the risk of the judge underselling how much source material is incorporated into the arrangement, which is exactly what happened here. That said, I gave it my best shot, noticed some subtle things that were overlooked, and even then I can't come up with the source tunes occupying the majority of the arrangement. For the Zelda source material to be dominant in the arrangement, I needed to hear it in use for at least 202 seconds of a 6:44-long piece. Here's what I could identify (thanks to Nutritious for the starting point of his breakdown): :08.5-:20.5 - Kakariko Village (Ocarina of Time) 1:00-1:18.5 - Zelda's Lullaby 1:24.5-1:34.75 - Zelda's Lullaby 1:48.75-1:56 - Main Theme 2:07.75-2:23.75 - Main Theme (with Zelda's Lullaby in background) 3:19-3:28 - Song of Healing (Majora's Mask) 3:53.5-4:08.5 - Zelda Lullaby, very quiet 4:09.75-4:19.75 - Main Theme 4:30.75-4:32 - a couple of notes from Zelda's Lullaby in passing 4:35-5:42.75 - Main Theme 5:50.5-5:56.5 - Main Theme on brass 5:56.5-6:02.75 - Zelda's Lullaby very quietly on bells 6:12-6:21.75 - Main Theme quietly on strings 189 seconds or 46.78% overt source usage There very well could be more Ocarina of Time theme cameos I'm missing or something like that, but because you didn't clarify, I don't know for sure whether it's there or not. For your own sake, and our sanity), you've gotta spell it out. If we've made a mistake and not identified all of the Zelda theme usage, let us know, LindsayAnne. Otherwise, this needs more of it. Also, some of the usage I pointed out that Nutritious didn't was so quiet, that it's almost not noticeable; perhaps some of those theme cameos could be a little louder/more present without disturbing the overall balance of the instruments very much. As far as the composition, Chimpa mentioned this dragging out a bit, and I can see where she's coming from, but I didn't get that vibe myself. The tempo's deliberate, and that's cool with me. On the production side, I agree there's not too much difference/refinement between this vs. 2004, but like Nutritious, I think this production quality's at an acceptable enough level for OCR, without reservation. That said, the critiques about the string & brass sequencing/realism were on point, just not enough to ask for a resubmission on those grounds. Jive mentioned possibly re-tooling the writing for more dynamic contrast. You're welcome to take the suggestions in whatever way you see fit, but they're merely suggestions, in case that wasn't clear. IMO, the dynamics are subtle, but observable, so I didn't have any problems there. Dynamics come in all shapes and sizes. The main kicker for me was not enough identifiable source usage, and I felt everything else (composition/production) was over the line, issues aside. Incorporating more Zelda material into the piece (or merely identifying enough to push the usage over 50%) would make it a pass for me. Definitely don't be discouraged, LindsayAnne. It's awesome to have you back in the community and active making music again, and I know we have more to look forward to, even if this one isn't resubbed. NO (resubmit)

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When I tweeted about this discussion, Chhaya Kapadia, formerly of the Future of Music Coalition, now at the New America Foundation (she rocks), helpfully linked Future of Music's recent study on artist revenue streams. Really good reading!

The soundscape feels like it's missing some padding to fully flesh the sound out, but that wasn't a problem in the big picture. Kind of weird having the chippy lead from :54-1:26 seem like it was off-key with the backing. In any case, I agree with the others that this gave more direction and focus to the source. I actually enjoyed the original in a twisted way, but the loose timing of some Amiga tunes is an acquired taste for some. There could have been some more spicyness in the arrangement, but there was solid dynamic contrast and development throughout. All in all, good work! YES

We're planning possibly 1 more.

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Great job cutting him loose! VGM!

Beatdrop, Jivemaster, and Redg! (Before you ask, it's pronounced "Rej", like short for Reggie. Just think of Reggie Fils-Aimé; Redg is probably his body double!) Along with our new Workshop mod Argle, who was announced last week, we've excited to also have some kickass new (some old) judges. Welcome them aboard, and/or express your anger and skepticism!

My wife knows about it and promotes it. We're friends. THAT COUNTS! /necro

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Yep, the timing's basically the same. Besides some embellishments here and there, it's just the source tune adapted for a new set of instruments. The brass was also lacking, but that's typical of faux brass. in any case, you need more interpretation beyond swapping in new instruments. This is a cool cover, but a violation of our arrangement standards. NO (override)

Thanks for being wrong. Thanks to Hakštok for quoting me and giving the correct answer. YES, you can do an arrangement of an arrangement. Read my quote above for the details.

Thanks for the catch. It'll be fixed soon.

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