Since these two pussies--I mean, PUSSIES--keep getting mentioned, I will once again reiterate the strategy that llowed me to conquer them with a minimal amount of effort: do whatever preparations you usually do; Final Attack=Phoenix, Mime, KOR, etc. Make sure someone has Hades. Hades STOPS the weapons. As in the Stop spell, meaning that they shouldn't be counterattaking. The best team to use is Cloud, Cid and Barret, since their limits all do over 10,000 HP apiece (if you're feeling lucky you can sub Tifa for one of them, but those 3 do THE most damage IMO). Don't remeber too clearly, but I think Ruby was still able to counter KOR with Ultima despite being Stopped, but you can just use Bahamut ZERO instead until your limits fill again. I usually have my active party in Fury at all times (Limit fills faster), but I finally realized what made it a negative status: apparently, you take more damage from attacks. Butagain, if you feel lucky, it's something to consider doing.