Claado Shou
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Alright, so I'm looking at deadlines. Something really simple, just to keep the process moving along. How about this:
-All selected tracks must show some progress by December 1.
I don't really want to go any further than that, since there's always the chance that more songs will be chosen by people already doing mixes. So yeah...whatcha think?
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Very cool, mv. I'll sign you up immediately.
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The basic premise is this: whatever is happening on screen/paper, imagine what kind of emotion is thrumming throughout the scene, and make music to fit that. That's all. Nothing action-specific is necessary...you don't have to have a bass drum for every sword strike, just make sure that the music fits the mood. Make the song active and upbeat, like battle music would be.
Let's put it this way: imagine that as you're playing Chrono Trigger the game, the music changed according to what was going on. You're climbing Death Peak, and the music is dark, with a hint of percussion, to add suspense. You see your first Lavos Spawn, and suddenly it picks up speed, as the player gets on the edge of their seat for a battle. Then it slowly segues into a fast-paced action song, complete with a tremolo section at the end for the creature's death.
That's what we're aiming for - scene enhancers. Nothing incredibly complex, just good, clean, well-produced orchestral that complements the movie's goings-on. Do that, and you're good.
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Alright, this = confusing. How's about everybody works things out (by PM, preferably) and then posts in here with their final lineups? That way, I can keep the edit count on the front page below 100.
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Damn, people. When are you going to give me a break?
Alright, let me try and get this thing back on track...
DarkeSword - I would suggest choosing tracks now so that everybody else knows what they can't do. Maybe that would lessen the confusion a bit.
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Erm, in light of all this, would it be possible to switch to frogs intervention? if its too much hassle dont worry about it.
Would you like to keep the Schala song as well, or no?
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Ah. That was very nice of you, Emperor. I'll put you down for the other piece and open up the slot for the Lavos Battle. Very chivalrous of you.
ALSO: I PMed Protricity about making this a Site Project, and I hope he permits it. I also asked him not to move it into the other forum until every mixer has had the chance to claim their pieces and knows about the move, so don't expect this to get up and transfer over there anytime soon.
Additionally, with the official name of the project decided, I need somebody to help me create a new banner, an official banner for the project. Any volunteers, please PM me and we can get started immediately.
~.C.S.~
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Oh, and by the way, in case anybody was confused as to the restrictions placed on this project...every song submitted to this effort can be used however you like. I had a remixer earlier that wanted my permission to submit their piece to VGMix, and I told them what I'm going to tell you:
If you want to submit your song to OCR or VGMix or anything else, please do so. Just realize that it will be forever known that it was made for this project, and will be smiled upon for all eternity. AMEN.
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Well, Ben, I'm sorry to hear you give up on that piece. And after such a hard-fought battle, too...
Mr. Wu, I like the piece, and I can fit it to the visual in the script, just not the visual you give, that's all. I would highly suggest you read the script portion it covers in order to see what's really going on. That way you won't be disappointed when I say it doesn't fit.
Good job, otherwise. Very evocative.
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Alright...I'll put you, SirRus, down for the Epoch song. I'll reserve the Crisis and Morning Sunlight songs for you, sephfire, and await your final decision. But I can't promise that you'll keep them...if somebody else asks for them specifically, then they're taken.
Also, as soon as all of the pieces are claimed, I'm PMing a site mod to get this placed in the Site Projects forum. I already have an official name for the project (Kong in Concert, Relics of the Chozo, etc.)...but you'll just have to wait to see what it is until it's a Site Project.
To Ben...I looked at the document and then at the OST listing. While I do believe that you can effectively do all of the things I had originally planned for those pieces in the 8:30-9:00 allotted, with the way you have it working out, the product should be closer to 14:00-15:00. So if you really want to do it that way...we have the extra space on the ST. Go ahead.
BTW, that's a lot to handle. So many songs...are you sure you'll be able to pull it off?
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I think I'd like the Ocean Palace one... more details later (don't have time to flesh it out now, but I just wanted to reserve this one
).Alright, I put you down for #18 (it's the one where Crono and the others meet Melchior and attack the Mammon Machine). If you actually meant #19, the one where the Black Omen rises into the sky, lemme know so I can change it.
And about your song, SirRus...it was good until you had some strange samples pop in there, which totally ruined the feel. I know you made this a long time ago, and you won't feel bad if I don't like it. So...I don't like it.
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Yeah, so I hope all the tracks get assigned today - is Darkesword just contributing his Millennial Fair song or did he agree to work on another one for the project specifically? Just curious.
As far as I know, he's still going to participate. I accepted his Millennial Fair song as an audition piece and it fit the 1000 A.D. scene well enough that I just decided to ease the remixing load of others. But I certainly hope he's going to continue his part in this project.
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I see what Ben is saying to some extent. I agree that cramming a certain amount of creativity into a small time frame can be demanding. However, I also think it's unreasonable to put NO time limitations, as we're trying to create a CD format soundtrack here (which is already slated to be too large for just one disc).
I'm more inclined to side with Claado on this issue, as this is how he organized things from the start and we've all had fair warning. It isn't like we have to write in dynamics for every single line each character speaks. Just try to find the changes in emotional tension (or the "beats" if you're into theater at all) and organize around those. Do what you can with what you have.
'Xactly.
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Sorry to douse your long-ass post, Ben, but ignoring the script is like going into battle without any ammo...there's no point.
As for the time restraint thing, your particular scenes do fit rather well in 4:30. Mainly because the entire part from where they first enter the tunnel to the point where Crono retrieves the Masamune (3 or 4 minutes of screen time) is not covered by music. Remember, there are plenty of times in movies where no background music plays at all. Silence is a huge factor in making the music for a movie that much more enjoyable and powerful.
So yes, if you look at the script (as I PMed it to you), 4:30 works quite well (1 page of formatted script = 1 minute of screen time). Sorry to be a spoilsport, and sorry to just toss aside your comment, but it's necessary.
BTW: When I referred to editing the script, I meant for revising dialogue (which does not affect the music any), and also perhaps adding scenes if needed. Neither of these will play a role in the actual ST, as additional scenes can be composed for and dialogue can simply be replaced. As long as the music portrays the ACTION of the script, then there's no need for concern.
Besides, to be absolutely honest, IF the movie ever gets made (which I doubt), it'll probably be best for a single person to re-orchestrate the ST (using the songs of this project as the foundation for the new ones), in order to have the most realistic effect possible, at which time any indiscrepancies may be dealt with. This is not to say the project is useless, because as the script stands, these pieces will be perfect enhancers. It's just that I'm sure when the details are finally visually realized, the music may not be entirely accurate anymore, and somebody will need to tweak what music has already been made.
Don't let this deter you, however, from making your best effort. This ST will still be a great collaboration of many wonderful pieces, and I'm sure yours will be at least one of them. Cheers.
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Erm, well in that case you guys can choose something for me, nothing else really inspires me
EDIT: Screw it, i'll do schala if you want?
I'm sorry to hear you've lost your initiative. Remember, you can use any source song you want in the piece, as long as you're reasonable. Schala's Theme can switch to Undersea Palace and then to Frog's Theme, if you really want. As long as it's good as a single piece and it fits with the script, anything goes. Do it however you'd like.
I'm not saying this to berate you; I just want to let you know that even with your preferred pieces already chosen by someone else, there's still a reason to be inspired. So don't make any more frowning smiley faces (if that paradox is even possible).
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You may want to PM some of the other remixers in case they forgot or haven't seen the thread in a while and aren't up to speed.
Good idea. Let me do that.
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Hi hi, sorry im so late, had to reformat my computer!
I'd like to work on either song 10 or 11, i.e frogs theme and 600ad. Mainly due to the fact i've worked on them before, so i can delve more deeply into them, that and last night i was screwing around with frogs theme and discovered my secret love for brass
Oooooooh...Ben's already claimed both of those songs. As well as #9, the Zombor/Frog scene. Sorry.
#8, the song playing while in Guardia Castle, will obviously have a lot of brass in it (think imperial), as well as #18, the scene in which Crono and the others destroy the Mammon Machine. Both of those are still open (if you're looking for suggestions, that is). But please, for now, only choose one song to do. That'll make it easier for others to choose their songs.
EDIT: I can't believe nobody's chosen to do #16, the scene with Schala. I thought something like that would go rather quickly. Hmm.
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C'mon, Unknown, where are ya....
I feel the same way. But about all 6 of those who haven't shown up.
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Alright, 11 songs and nearly 45 minutes of music left to claim. Any other takers?
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Alright then, just Zeal for me until others get around to claiming songs. Also, thanks for sending me the script portion Claado, but am I blind or where do I find these short snippets on the scene with the recommended song lengths that Ben has been quoting? I don't know where the song length can be found for the Zeal scene...
In the first post there's a link to the OST listing, which has everything Ben has been quoting. Plus, you don't have to give up your other song if you don't want...I just wanna make sure that accepted mixers have the opportunity to do some mixing.
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Wow...only 10 pieces left and 7 mixers still without any songs to their names. Perhaps we should limit it to one song per person (from now on) until everybody has their say?
EDIT: People who have already claimed songs can keep the ones they've claimed. I have no intention of stealing them from you. Just for clarification on the above comment.
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We are arranging the music according to what is happening in the script, correct?
Yes. Just remember that the music enforces the action and gives it charge. If somebody is sad, so should the music be. Action scenes require upbeat music. You get the drift.
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I'm sorry I just got a little thrown off by the selection of scenes rather than songs... and I had specific songs picked out - so let me clarify something real quickly then: we are allowed and encouraged to mix different songs from the OST into each scene that we do? Kind of like what Emperor did with the main theme then? I was under the impression we would only be working with one song, and could possibly throw in "To Far Away Promises."
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You can work with as many songs as you like, as long as you can effectively weave them together. Just try not to use the same song everybody else is. I don't want 22 mixes using Corridors of Time when there are 100 other tunes to be used.
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Shall I put you down for it?
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Wow, Ben. That's hella awesome. Let me repeat, hella awesome. Yes, your instrument choice is nice, as well as the pause and the speed-up - very dramatic, though I would prefer if the volume stayed at a constant level the entire time, instead of fading out in the middle. The scene can definitely be suited to fit this music.
Just remember that the song needs to stay within time limit and should have the slowdown after Lavos is defeated, plus the faster pace as they escape the crumbling Black Omen and watch it fall into the ocean. Keep that in mind, and this is a definite keeper.
Alright, seph, I'll put that up on the front page. I've been working on some Halo stuff (not just the game) and was enthralled by it. G'luck, mate.