CloudvsTidus4Life Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Well I am having problems with the VST ambiance settings. None of the presets allow me to get a good enough sound to actually submit music here. It all rather sounds really empty or kind of choppy. Is there any custom setting that works really well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanthos Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I haven't used Finale since PrintMusic 2006, but I can say that you're not likely going to be able to get OCR-worthy music out of it, no matter how hard you try. The problems you face is one of control and realism. Control is an issue in the sense that the only way you can manipulate the human aspect of the music is through dynamics and other markings, and Finale will typically render those in a uniform way. Think about a crescendo, for example: are all crescendos from mp to f the same? Even just the ones that last the same length? What specifically does f mean, and can you quantify it, say to measure it in decibels? Not really, since dynamics are a range, and the intensity with which you play a f passage as a player is largely dependent on the nature of the music, where it lies in the piece, and so on. There are a lot of human aspects like this that you can't control in Finale since it's not set up that way. You also don't have control of things like EQ and mixing levels. Nearly all recorded music in all genres now, including classical, is produced in the studio (in the case of an orchestra, recorded in a concert hall and mixed down later is an option). The last I'd seen, Finale doesn't give you the fine-grained controls you need to really give that last bit of polish to the sound. Your best bet, if you want to use Finale compositions to produce remixes, is to export as MIDI and import into a proper DAW (Cubase, FL Studio, Sonar, Logic, GarageBand, Live, etc.) where you can manipulate the human aspects of the performance. Your arranging skills may be fantastic, but Finale isolates you from the level and type of production tools you need to satisfy the production requirements of the OCRemix standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sengin Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 That's actually what I've been doing. I made the basis of my arrangement in Finale (basically just the standard treble and bass piano clefs) and then exported it to a midi (type 1, with each staff as a different channel) and then imported it into Reason. I wrote little notes using the text tool to remind myself of what I wanted to do with it (have some strings here, this type of drum here, etc...). Then in Reason, I would add instruments in the background (flute, strings, echoes, etc.), change from piano to another instrument (a sax for example) and play with the basic arrangement even more. Like, instead of having just a left and a right hand, I have a left hand on piano, with the right split into a soprano sax and an alto sax playing an octave apart playing the same melody but with different arrangements so that it sort of sounds like they are competing for the spotlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudvsTidus4Life Posted March 19, 2008 Author Share Posted March 19, 2008 is there anything like reason that is free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverCoat Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Not really any free all-in-one packages like Reason, but you could always go with Cockos Reaper and some free VSTs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sengin Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Can you import midis into Reaper though? I haven't used it, so I'm not sure. If you can't, then it'll be pretty useless for CloudvsTidus4Life's purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunahorum Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 yes you can reaper kicks ass and is just as good as any other daw People think it sucks because it is free (which is natural to think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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