how to get more than 3 gigs in DAW?

[Lunahorum]

How do I get more than 3 gigs for sample libraries? I have a 64 bit OS if that matters. Is there anyway to use all 6 of my gigs? Zircon, I know you said you were building an 8 gig machine a while back. How do you use all 8?

[dannthr]

Your DAW has to be 64bit compatible--as in, a 64bit application capable of 64bit memory addressing.

[Lunahorum]

I pmed zircon and there is this thing called jbridge. Maybe once that gets the kinks out, it will work.

edit: as of now, I do not want to run 64 bit DAW because all my plugs are 32 bit.

[Hy Bound]

I was having the same problem... I think Sonar is 64 bit or something. Yeah, the plug-ins are what would require a 64-bit application. I think its sadly ahead of the curve.

[audio fidelity]

there's programs out there that can assist with this - http://www.cycling74.com/products/soundflower

all programs can access a restricted amount of ram - so...if you are able to open say a stand-alone kontakt and link it to your DAW then you potentially have another 2-4 gigs that can be accessed - plus i'm told it's snappier

there are other programs that will allow you to do this - just have to look to around

[Lunahorum]

there's programs out there that can assist with this - http://www.cycling74.com/products/soundflower

all programs can access a restricted amount of ram - so...if you are able to open say a stand-alone kontakt and link it to your DAW then you potentially have another 2-4 gigs that can be accessed - plus i'm told it's snappier

there are other programs that will allow you to do this - just have to look to around

mac only? ill keep my eyes open

[audio fidelity]

gotcha - http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.html

[zircon]

Jbridge is superior to any other solution, since it literally just runs the VST outside of your host's memory space while maintaining the actual link. ie. no virtual audio cables or MIDI yoke needed, it automatically does all that for you - saves with your project, opens with your project, renders offline.

[prophetik music]

something to remember is that no application can access more than a certain amount of RAM. like, in 32-bit there's a limit of 2000mb, and in 64-bit there's a limit that i don't remember off the top of my head (i think it's 3000mb, but don't quote me on it).

[rig1015]

there's programs out there that can assist with this - http://www.cycling74.com/products/soundflower

all programs can access a restricted amount of ram - so...if you are able to open say a stand-alone kontakt and link it to your DAW then you potentially have another 2-4 gigs that can be accessed - plus i'm told it's snappier

Interesting... Here I've only been using soundflower to do audio caps while doing screen caps with my DAW.

[zircon]

something to remember is that no application can access more than a certain amount of RAM. like, in 32-bit there's a limit of 2000mb, and in 64-bit there's a limit that i don't remember off the top of my head (i think it's 3000mb, but don't quote me on it).

That's why you use Jbridge which creates new instances of itself, thus bypassing the limitation. Of course you can't go above 3.5gb in 32bit but in 64 it's unlimited. Furthermore in 64 you can definitely have one app accessing more than 3gb.. way more.

[prophetik music]

right, i know. i was explaining why the issue was happening to begin with.

[Smenelian]

Can anyone vouch that this Jbridge works reliably? I primarily use FL Studio and occasionally Sonar. If it works with Kontakt and East West plugins I will be happy to drop some money for it.

[zircon]

I've thus far used Jbridge in FL Studio to host Trilogy and SampleTank.. haven't tried Kontakt but I'd imagine it works fine. Will give that a shot soon.

[prophetik music]

trilogy, like spectrasonic's trilogy? the bass synth? i love that thing. it's soooooo phat when you need something warm and big on the bottom.

[Smenelian]

So you have 64 bit Vista with 4+ gigs of RAM and Jbridge will handle the rest? Does it have a limit to how many you can have running at once?

[zircon]

I don't use Vista; in fact, I hate Vista. Right now I'm using XP32, though I have an XP64 partition installed. I haven't tried Jbridge on x64 but I know it's programmed for that also. It works fine with XP32, and no, there's no limit to how many you can run - it's just based on your max memory and RAM available.

[prophetik music]

wait, you're getting more than 3.5 gigs in your daw in a 32-bit partition?

[zircon]

No. But normally, in 32bit, FL starts crapping out at 1600-1700mb used. So, even with only 3.5gb in 32bit, when you use Jbridge and samplers with DFD, you can basically use more like ~2800-3000mb RAM. Which is awesome.

[prophetik music]

i'm buying this thing tomorrow, if it makes all my midi data work like BGC says.

[big giant circles]

You need to buy it regardless

It's only like ~$22US anyway. Well worth it, considering what it will enable you to do in FL, which still looks like it'll be stuck in 32-bit for quite a while.

[Lunahorum]

I am trying the sonar 8 x64 demo, and I am thrilled with it. The only thing I miss is FL's weird peak controller, but sonar has a different way of sidechaining. Oh and omg the interface in sonar is like a dream compared to FL. I am waiting to see how reaper's bit bridge (coming out soon I think?) will fare. I might upgrade to reaper instead.