docnano Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 It's about time we had some Lolo 3 love on OCR, so I made a Sousa-esque march based primarily on two themes from Lolo 3 -- the main level music (first strain), and the overworld theme (trio). The second strain is a development of the little jingle you hear when you get a power-up such as a bridge or hammer. Source: (2:11) Main Level Music (3:16) Overworld Music Things to improve? Enough source? Original enough? Worth submitting with a little more polish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Thanks for the suggestions! Here's version 2. (link removed) I've bumped the tempo up to 125, added articulation (esp. in woodwinds) and more dynamic shaping to the phrases, as well as some ensemble chorus effects and reverb to make the overall effect more convincing. Also shortened the attack time on the brass/horns to make them less squawky, more crisp. I'm still thinking about adding a dedicated trumpet voice as well as a bassoon, but it depends on whether I can get them to sound good. Sample quality still a major issue? If so, can anyone suggest free/cheap alternatives? I'm not keen on dropping hundreds of quid on sample libraries at the moment. :-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted May 17, 2011 Author Share Posted May 17, 2011 I'm really tempted to call this one "The Blue Ball March" since, well, Lolo is a blue ball. Not sure if I want a title like that tied to my name though. I obtained some free samples from EWQLSO, so I decided to revisit this one and give it a production overhaul. I recently bought EWQLSO Silver, so I should imminently have some more articulations and keyswitching at my disposal. On my list of things to improve: - Improve trumpet and French horn articulation - Replace clarinet sample - Flesh out low brass in some places for impact - Add piccolo and some auxiliary percussion As usual, other suggestions are welcome. I'd really like to submit this one when it's finished, since to my knowledge Lolo 3 has not yet been remixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emunator Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Just wanted to point out how much this sounds like Kid Icarus music. These new samples are definitely helping a lot, but the arrangement doesn't really feel dynamic enough. I like the sound you've got going on, but for much of the song it feels like it treks along at the same energy level without ever taking off, which is a shame because I really do feel like this style would sound awesome when coupled with an arrangement that crescendos a bit more. It's probably doable without even changing any of the arrangement, just getting some more booming timpanis and strong brass/string section accompaniment at appropriate times might do the trick. I like this a lot though Can't wait to hear what you do with this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 Slight update, wherein I tried to accentuate the dynamic and textural contrasts, and added a triangle for excitement: Just wanted to point out how much this sounds like Kid Icarus music. I know it's a fan favorite, but... never played it. I shall have to check out the OST! I like the sound you've got going on, but for much of the song it feels like it treks along at the same energy level without ever taking off, which is a shame because I really do feel like this style would sound awesome when coupled with an arrangement that crescendos a bit more. I'm afraid some of that comes with the genre. :-\ But I'm definitely still learning how to use these samples; the expression knob is rather stiff, so to speak, so I have to overdo the automation compared to what I'm used to. I'm hoping that a few well-placed notes and dynamic changes will do it, since I'm pretty happy with the arrangement as it stands. Thanks for the feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erineclipse Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 smash bros quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted June 11, 2011 Author Share Posted June 11, 2011 I got EWQLSO Silver a few weeks ago, and had the chance to give this a full orchestral overhaul. Added strings, replaced existing instruments with better samples and used more varied articulations. I'm ready to dub it finished, though I may yet add a piccolo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guifrog Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Ooh-la-la!! What can I say? Didn't hear your previous WIPs, but as it is now, I'd easily mistake this for Strauss or anything like that (not an expert in names of classical music here, just sayin') ;P Sounds like there's distortion when glockenspiel plays, but still, it's brilliant! Add your piccolo or whatever, I'm schizophrenicly looking forward to this ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 Thanks! Yeah, the glockenspiel seems a bit out of tune in the high notes, but I've noticed that when I play glock in a large ensemble in "real life" as well, so... maybe acceptable? Anyway, I added a piccolo in one section near the end. Here's the essentially final product: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guifrog Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm talking about distortion 'noise'; its sound kinda 'shakes' even during silent bits of the song. I think that could be sorted out, but still I'm okay with it. Piccolo sounds nice, but sometimes the melody sounds out of place for me (specially those weird notes at 2:12-2:14!). Yea, let's wait anxiously for the judgment of the mods! \@/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level 99 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm talking about distortion 'noise'; its sound kinda 'shakes' even during silent bits of the song. I think that could be sorted out, but still I'm okay with it.Piccolo sounds nice, but sometimes the melody sounds out of place for me (specially those weird notes at 2:12-2:14!). Yea, let's wait anxiously for the judgment of the mods! \@/ Good thing I'm planning on doing a marathon of cleaning out my backlog'd workshop eval stuff. SOMETIME THIS WEEK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm talking about distortion 'noise'; its sound kinda 'shakes' even during silent bits of the song. I think that could be sorted out, but still I'm okay with it.Piccolo sounds nice, but sometimes the melody sounds out of place for me (specially those weird notes at 2:12-2:14!). Yea, let's wait anxiously for the judgment of the mods! \@/ Re glock: I see -- maybe an issue with the EWQLSO sample itself then? If I understand what you're talking about, I've heard the same issue with glock in other mixes (like My Child from Gears + Humans, maybe). I'm not applying any compression whatsoever and am normalizing, so there shouldn't be overload/distortion issues... Re piccolo: Thanks for the thoughts. It's possible some of the rhythms/notes could change slightly, but they do at least fall within the chord progression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emunator Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Yeah, this is some quality orchestration. I definitely feel like this is more dynamic and dramatic than the previous versions that I've heard. Some of the rhythm timing on the piccolo is a little off, and in the highest notes the sample just ends up sounding weak. That's the only thing that really stands out to me in a bad way, everything else about this rocks. Should have no problem passing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 Thanks for the feedback! I'm posting a minor update, wherein the piccolo will hopefully pierce your eardrums less severely. Timing and composition are better, too, I think. Looking forward to hearing what Level 99 and any other mods have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level 99 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 This is gorgeous. It starts off almost as an orchestral cover but then it really comes into its own. This should have no problem passing. THIS IS DELICIOUS! Edit: check your mailbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidilian Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Wow the quality of the samples is rediculously good and you definitely know how to get the most out of them. I'd be surprised if this doesn't get posted. Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docnano Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share Posted June 19, 2011 Thanks for the feedback, guys. I backed off on the reverb just a smidge, made a couple of minuscule tweaks, and subbed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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